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    The Washington Post awarded “Four Pinocchios” to House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff on Friday, claiming he hadn't told the truth about his knowledge of the whistleblower.

    Schiff has played a leading role in investigating the Trump-Ukraine scandal but hasn’t been truthful in the process, according to Washington Post fact-checker Glenn Kessler.

    Kessler laid out a compelling, fact-based argument that Schiff wasn’t honest when asked if he had advanced knowledge about the whistleblower’s concerns regarding the now-infamous phone call between President Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky in a series of interviews.

    “Schiff’s answers are especially interesting in the wake of reports in The New York Times and The Washington Post that the whistleblower approached a House Intelligence Committee staff member for guidance before filing a complaint with the Intelligence Community inspector general,” Kessler wrote.

    Last month, Schiff sat down with CNN’s Anderson Cooper, who asked if he was in contact with the whistleblower, or even if he simply knew their identity.

    “I don’t know the identity of the whistleblower … I don’t want to get into any particulars. I want to make sure that there’s nothing that I do that jeopardizes the whistleblower in any way,” Schiff told CNN when asked if the whistleblower has contacted him.

    The Post called this answer a “classic dodge” and noted that the CNN host didn’t bother with a follow-up question – which helped Schiff avoid giving a potentially damaging answer.

    “He managed not to mislead; he just simply did not answer the question,” Kessler wrote of Schiff.

    “Schiff earns Four Pinocchios.”

    — Washington Post fact-checker Glenn Kessler
    The very next day, Schiff appeared on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe,” where he seemingly graduated from dodging to lying, the Post says.

    “We have not spoken directly with the whistleblower,” Schiff said on MSNBC.

    Kessler noted that this is “flat-out false” given information that has since become available.

    Trump blasts Schiff as the NYT reports the House Intel chair had prior contact with the whistleblowerVideo
    “Unlike the quick two-step dance he performed with Anderson Cooper, Schiff simply says the committee had not spoken to the whistleblower. Now we know that’s not true,” the Post’s fact-checker wrote.

    A committee spokesman attempted to defend Schiff in a statement to the Post: “He intended to answer the question of whether the Committee had heard testimony from the whistleblower, which they had not… the whistleblower was then awaiting instructions from the Acting DNI as to how the whistleblower could contact the Committee. Nonetheless, he acknowledges that his statement should have been more carefully phrased to make that distinction clear.”

    On Sept. 19, Schiff was at it again, according to the Post, when speaking with reporters at the Capitol.

    “In the absence of the actions, and I want to thank the inspector general, in the absence of his actions in coming to our committee, we might not have even known there was a whistleblower complaint alleging an urgent concern,” Schiff said.

    The Post’s fact-checker called this “misleading” comment “more dissembling” and noted that “his committee knew that something explosive was going to be filed with the IG.”

    Kessler wrote there “are right ways and wrong ways to answer reporters’ questions if a politician wants to maintain his or her credibility” and there is “nothing wrong with dodging a question, as long as you don’t try to mislead.”

    But Schiff “clearly made a statement that was false” on MSNBC and “compounded his falsehood” when speaking with reporters at the Capitol, Kessler wrote.

    “The explanation that Schiff was not sure it was the same whistleblower especially strains credulity,” Kessler wrote. “Schiff earns Four Pinocchios.”

    The Post’s Fact Checker team considered Four Pinocchios to be “whoppers” and most egregious offense outside of the rare “Bottomless Pinocchio.”

    Republicans have also decried how Schiff, during a hearing last week, read a "parody" version of Trump’s phone call with Ukraine's president.

    #2
    Schiff a liar, oh my.
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      #3
      SCHIFF AND TRUMP ARE LIARS.

      What Schiff says about the Ukraine, Trump and Biden is really not important at all. It does dive the ultra right nuts. What matters is the actual transcript and the audio of Trump asking Ukraine and China to investigate Biden.
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        #4
        Originally posted by Iproff View Post
        SCHIFF AND TRUMP ARE LIARS.

        What Schiff says about the Ukraine, Trump and Biden is really not important at all. It does dive the ultra right nuts. What matters is the actual transcript and the audio of Trump asking Ukraine and China to investigate Biden.
        But, didn’t Trump say “we should not believe what we hear or read”?
        So, I’m guessing he’s going to apply this to what he said in the recording. This president is beyond hopeless.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Iproff View Post
          SCHIFF AND TRUMP ARE LIARS.

          What Schiff says about the Ukraine, Trump and Biden is really not important at all. It does dive the ultra right nuts. What matters is the actual transcript and the audio of Trump asking Ukraine and China to investigate Biden.
          President Trump is supposed to asked Ukraine, China, Italy and Australia for help in investigating Biden because evidence exists that Joe and Hunter Biden committed crimes. President Trump should and probably is asking for help from many countries who have first hand knowledge of crimes and/or corruption committed by any American.

          If you don't want to do the time ... don't commit the crime.

          Running for office, or being in office ... does not protect you from criminal investigation.
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          • Iproff
            Iproff commented
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            Tell that to Trump he's says exactly the opposite when it comes to crime.

          #6
          Schiff is a bad liar and he is a bad actor.

          I heard the democrats are looking at removing him because he is making them all look very corrupt
          It's all a dream
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            #7
            Originally posted by Don9 View Post

            President Trump is supposed to asked Ukraine, China, Italy and Australia for help in investigating Biden because evidence exists that Joe and Hunter Biden committed crimes. President Trump should and probably is asking for help from many countries who have first hand knowledge of crimes and/or corruption committed by any American.

            If you don't want to do the time ... don't commit the crime.

            Running for office, or being in office ... does not protect you from criminal investigation.
            So tell us what crime did Biden commit in America?
            Why did Trump wait till election time to bring this up?
            Why has Trump not produced one shred of evidence that Biden committed a crime?

            We #TheDoneDon has certainly committed the crime.
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              #8
              Originally posted by Iproff View Post

              So tell us what crime did Biden commit in America?
              Why did Trump wait till election time to bring this up?
              Why has Trump not produced one shred of evidence that Biden committed a crime?

              We #TheDoneDon has certainly committed the crime.
              To start with ... Vice President Joe Biden used his government office to extort, using tax payer money (1 billion US Dollars), the Ukraine government into ending the investigation into his son, Hunter Biden, by firing the prosecutor who was on the board of a corrupt energy (gas) company (Burisma).

              President Trump had to wait until the new President (Volodymyr Zelensky) of Ukraine took office in May 2019. The previous President of Ukraine (Petro Poroshenko) was corrupt and criminal ... he was the globalist puppet that Obama installed after he successfully executed a bloody regime change in Ukraine where thousands were murdered ... this was a horrific war crime committed by the Obama administration. Volodymyr Zelensky was elected by the people in a landslide and he ran on ending the corruption in Ukraine ... just like President Trump promised to end the corruption in America.

              Joe Biden provided the evidence when he self incriminated himself on national TV as he described the extortion crime. More evidence will be reveled in the future as the DOJ completes it's investigations.
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                #9
                Originally posted by Don9 View Post

                To start with ... Vice President Joe Biden used his government office to extort, using tax payer money (1 billion US Dollars), the Ukraine government into ending the investigation into his son, Hunter Biden, by firing the prosecutor who was on the board of a corrupt energy (gas) company (Burisma).

                President Trump had to wait until the new President (Volodymyr Zelensky) of Ukraine took office in May 2019. The previous President of Ukraine (Petro Poroshenko) was corrupt and criminal ... he was the globalist puppet that Obama installed after he successfully executed a bloody regime change in Ukraine where thousands were murdered ... this was a horrific war crime committed by the Obama administration.

                Joe Biden provided the evidence when he self incriminated himself on national TV as he described the extortion crime. More evidence will be reveled in the future as the DOJ completes it's investigations.
                Wrong again. The WTO and the US wanted a proven crooked investigator removed from office. The decision to hold back the money was not Bidens he delivered the message. There has never been one shred of evidence that Biden did anything wrong the Ukraine has said so its Trump making something up because he knows Biden can beat him..

                You constantly say Obama committed crimes when you are pushed for answers about your fake news.
                How many people in Obama's White House were charged with a crime?
                How many in Trump's White House have been charged with a crime?

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                  #10
                  Yes, Biden even bragged about stopping an investigation on by saying he would stop $1 billion in Ukraine aid if the investigation against the company that his son was collecting $50,000/ month wasn't stopped.
                  Evidence doesn't get any more clear than that.

                  As for Schiff, I have heard that he doesn't have any plans to call the whistleblower to appear in front of this committee for questioning. He knows that the whistleblower will be asked by a Republican whether anyone on his staff had communications with the whistleblower before the complaint was filed and what was said. If this is true, then Schiff is totally corrupt as well as being an extremely biased rabid Trump hating fool. He should be the one arrested for treason.
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                    #11
                    Originally posted by Iproff View Post

                    Wrong again. The WTO and the US wanted a proven crooked investigator removed from office. The decision to hold back the money was not Bidens he delivered the message. There has never been one shred of evidence that Biden did anything wrong the Ukraine has said so its Trump making something up because he knows Biden can beat him..

                    You constantly say Obama committed crimes when you are pushed for answers about your fake news.
                    How many people in Obama's White House were charged with a crime?
                    How many in Trump's White House have been charged with a crime?
                    That's all bullshit and you know it. The WTO has no say in the situation. This was clear extortion and Vice President Joe Biden bragged about it on TV.

                    The Obama administration was not investigated under the Obama administration ... obviously. We all know members of the Obama administration, including Obama, are currently under investigation for high crimes ... including treason.
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                      #12
                      Originally posted by Don9 View Post

                      That's all bullshit and you know it. The WTO has no say in the situation. This was clear extortion and Vice President Joe Biden bragged about it on TV.

                      The Obama administration was not investigated under the Obama administration ... obviously. We all know members of the Obama administration, including Obama, are currently under investigation for high crimes ... including treason.
                      That's Fake News Don and you know it the WTO wanted the crooked prosecutor removed as did the US. You do realize the new Ukraine government has agreed the the prosecutor was/is crooked.

                      You have been going on for years about the last governments crimes and how many have been charged come on tell us?
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                      • baylineguy
                        baylineguy commented
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                        Wrong again as usual. The new Ukrainian government has rehired the investigator and reopened the investigation that Biden had fired by the previous corrupt government there.

                      #13
                      Originally posted by Iproff View Post

                      That's Fake News Don and you know it the WTO wanted the crooked prosecutor removed as did the US. You do realize the new Ukraine government has agreed the the prosecutor was/is crooked.

                      You have been going on for years about the last governments crimes and how many have been charged come on tell us?
                      The WTO is a corrupt globalist organization that is supposed to be dealing with international trade issues not issues with local law enforcement in sovereign nations.

                      Who gives a crap what the WTO says about a prosecutor in Ukraine.

                      Of course the Obama administration wanted the prosecutor fired ... he was investigating corruption and Joe Biden's son. That's why Joe Biden extorted the Ukraine government using our tax dollars.

                      As far as corruption in our government ... yes I have been talking about it for a long time ... and we finally got a President in the White House that is doing something about it ... and he himself was a victim of the massive corruption in our government. The Trump administration is and has been investigating corruption in our government as we all know. We also know that criminal referrals has already been issued for Comey and McCabe ... and there will be more for them. There will be many indictments coming. We see now that Biden (the former VP) will face justice as will many others ... some very powerful like Obama himself.

                      Justice is coming ... and they know it.


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                        #14
                        Originally posted by Don9 View Post

                        The WTO is a corrupt globalist organization that is supposed to be dealing with international trade issues not issues with local law enforcement in sovereign nations.

                        Who gives a crap what the WTO says about a prosecutor in Ukraine.

                        Of course the Obama administration wanted the prosecutor fired ... he was investigating corruption and Joe Biden's son. That's why Joe Biden extorted the Ukraine government using our tax dollars.

                        As far as corruption in our government ... yes I have been talking about it for a long time ... and we finally got a President in the White House that is doing something about it ... and he himself was a victim of the massive corruption in our government. The Trump administration is and has been investigating corruption in our government as we all know. We also know that criminal referrals has already been issued for Comey and McCabe ... and there will be more for them. There will be many indictments coming. We see now that Biden (the former VP) will face justice as will many others ... some very powerful like Obama himself.

                        Justice is coming ... and they know it.

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                        • Don9
                          Don9 commented
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                          LOL ... Yep the complicit MSM is going all out to try and shed cover ... but it won't work.

                          But I see you believe it ... LOL

                        • Iproff
                          Iproff commented
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                          So do some research on it the Ukrainian government has investigated and found no crime by Biden just the crooked PROSECUTOR that was fired trying to interfere in a US election.
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