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    I recently purchased an 86' Ciera 2450, my first boat by the way, and the previous owner had removed the tilt motor for repair but never got around to it because he kept the boat in a marina all the time. Now I have the boat without a tilt motor and can't seem to find exactly which model I need to get. Every time I search for tilt motors the part numbers seem to be connected through whatever engine you have and not the outdrive. I'm not sure about the engine, the previous owner said that it was rebuild but I can't find any plates that Volvo would attach to identify the engine. Perhaps they were remove when it was rebuilt, I don't know. The only thing I found was a "627" stamped on each side of the block. It is an 8 cylinder. The outdrive is a Volvo Penta 275. I'm attaching pictures that may help. If anyone can help me find out what tilt motor I need that would be awesome. Thanks.

    [img]/media/kunena/attachments/vb/661593=25156-vpoutdrive.jpg[/img]

    [img]/media/kunena/attachments/vb/661593=25155-tilt.jpg[/img]

    [img]/media/kunena/attachments/vb/661593=25154-engine.jpg[/img]

    #2
    Looks like you need more than a motor.

    It's missing the control box, relays and wiring, not to mention I don't see the vise rod sticking up through the switch hole.

    The motor is pretty much standard stuff, I would recommend a two wire. Here is a link to one http://marineengineparts.com/shopsit...ge64.html#1684

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      #3
      Thanks Wingman. Actually, I forgot to post that photo of the the wiring. It's off to the side right now. As for the tilt motor, which one are you talking about on this list, the top one Arco 6223?

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        #4
        Be sure that you don't confuse the Volvo Penta replacement P/T electric motor with the mechanical tilt out electric motor. Easy to do!

        In 1986, you very likely have the mechanical lift device only.

        According to your photo, your drive is a 275.

        I'd suggest finding the OEM part number, then look at Sierra or Arco and cross reference.

        .
        Rick E. Gresham, Oregon
        2850 Bounty Sedan Flybridge model
        Twin 280 HP 5.7's w/ Closed Cooling
        Volvo Penta DuoProp Drives
        Kohler 4 CZ Gen Set

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          #5
          Yep the Arco 6223 crosses from the tilt only penta 850834.

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            #6
            Thanks a lot, both of you. It's been hard finding a part number for that tilt motor because it seems that everywhere I go the tilt motor is cross referenced through the engine and the engine I have in, Chevy 305, wasn't one of the engines that Bayliner offered for my boat according to Bayliner. I'm buying the Arco 6223 tonight.

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              #7
              MadViking wrote:
              Thanks a lot, both of you. It's been hard finding a part number for that tilt motor because it seems that everywhere I go the tilt motor is cross referenced through the engine and the engine I have in, Chevy 305, wasn't one of the engines that Bayliner offered for my boat according to Bayliner. I'm buying the Arco 6223 tonight.
              Correct. This will be your AQ #. If you have the original 5.0L that Volvo Penta provided, it will be one of the AQ200's or AQ225's.
              Rick E. Gresham, Oregon
              2850 Bounty Sedan Flybridge model
              Twin 280 HP 5.7's w/ Closed Cooling
              Volvo Penta DuoProp Drives
              Kohler 4 CZ Gen Set

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                #8
                Correct. This will be your AQ #. If you have the original 5.0L that Volvo Penta provided, it will be one of the AQ200's or AQ225's.
                OK, so where would I be able to find what AQ# I have?

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                  #9
                  Unless someone has changed this, your '86 Volvo Penta drive will be using the two wire electric motor.

                  The three and four wire motors (and relay box wiring) were not OEM during your year model.

                  Go here and plug in any model number post "B" drive.... IOW, a drive model that is post AQXXXB, and it should lead you to the parts schematics that you want.

                  The two wire is the key to this.
                  Rick E. Gresham, Oregon
                  2850 Bounty Sedan Flybridge model
                  Twin 280 HP 5.7's w/ Closed Cooling
                  Volvo Penta DuoProp Drives
                  Kohler 4 CZ Gen Set

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                    #10
                    I have the same boat, a 1986 2450 Ciera Sunbride. My engine is a Volvo Penta AQ225B and my stern drive is a 275. It has the electric tilt, not tilt/power trim. I agree that you need the assembly (motor, relay assembly, push rod, worm gear, etc.) Someone usually has them for sale on eBay. Other models, such as the 280 may also work. If you can find someone local who does engine and drive rebuilds, they usually stockpile used parts for repairs. This assembly, new, is over $900 from Volvo online. My mechanic found one used for $150, or at least that's what he charged me for the part. It works fine.

                    If you recently bought the boat, it's probably a good idea to have an experienced mechanic inspect the stern drive and the condition of the bellows. You may also want to put a rubber plug over the exposed shaft for the tilt. If your boat starts taking on water and it's an open hole in your boat.

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                      #11
                      Good catch, and a correction to my last post.

                      I said B, and should have said AQ200B. Most by the mid 80s used the two wire motor.

                      BTW and FWIW, I keep parts for these, and I over-haul them.

                      I usually do not sell the parts for these, but it depends on which parts you need.

                      If anyone needs a complete unit, and/or an over-haul, get in touch with me.

                      Unfortunately, these are not inexpensive.
                      Rick E. Gresham, Oregon
                      2850 Bounty Sedan Flybridge model
                      Twin 280 HP 5.7's w/ Closed Cooling
                      Volvo Penta DuoProp Drives
                      Kohler 4 CZ Gen Set

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                        #12
                        Thanks everyone for the help. It's gotten me a lot further along and eased my frustrations. The website with the exploded diagrams is excellent. The tilt motor has been ordered and is on its way. I ordered the Arco 6223. I should be able to get it back together in the next week or so.

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