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    Is bayliner really that bad?-gctid351577

    I cant hear anymore people talking bad about bayliners to me.....I hear more....."oh it's not that boat that is always gets rotten" insted of congratulations....or something like that....is always telling bad things about bayliners. I dont care about what people say but I wonder if nothing is really true there...

    I checked the best of my knolegde to see for any rotten.....friends and family said so much bad things about bayliner that I am thinking about take my intire interior apart to check....I dont like the feeling of having my boat rotten inside out....if I dont find out I gonna go crazy I have to prove to myself nothing rotten in that boat....I REALLY LOVE MY BOAT....

    Is really that bad that bayliners get rotten??? I really dont care I am in love with my boat......

    I am not too excited with the idea of drilling roles on my strings to check, I heard about using a moisture meter.... can I use that in the frozen winter? Any other options?

    I pilled the carpet back and found wood color plywood and fiberglass clear with fibers so far what I seen the plywood looks fresh and clean....but no gel coat....so I thought maybe this plywood it's not original from the boat......is that original from bayliner or problably someone already changed?

    I wonder why not inspections opennings in the middle of the floor so the stringers and etc can be seen properly? just on the sides and inside the after cab?

    I am really tempted to cut the floor open to check everything....take the furniture out......I have until the may to finish my boat....them my inlaws are here and I defenally gonna need the boat to run away from them lol.....

    And them I have a great oportunity to change carpet and make improvements....LOL.....

    I did a research and found this product....

    http://www.invisionboatworks.com/stringers.html

    Is it realiable? or bette stick with the old school stuff?

    I wonder why they never used aluminum, plastic, epoxi, abs, solid fiberglass or anything that is less like it to get bad and still light weight

    Any imputs are very welcome...

    #2
    Ask any of them if they owned a bayliner!!

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      #3
      You bought the boat without a survey. An experienced surveyor would have been able to tell you whether or not the boat has rot. Depending on the age of the boat and how it has been used and maintained, the extent of the rot is speculative at best.

      The fact that it is a Bayliner does not make it any more or less prone to rot. Fiberglass endures osmosis, and wood encapsulated in it subsequently endures rot. This is the case regardless of the boat manufacturer.

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        #4
        If you want piece of mind, get it surveyed. Then you will know.

        Bayliner is the best selling boat in the country. That many people aren't stupid. Don't listen to ignorant people.

        Doug
        Started boating 1955
        Number of boats owned 32
        Bayliners
        2655
        2755
        2850
        3870 presently owned
        Favorite boat. Toss up. 46' Chris Craft, 3870 Bayliner

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          #5
          have owned four never found any rot in any of them .my freind bought my 96 1952 had to remove fuel tank for repair found no rot

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            #6
            Yes infortunally I bought the boat with out a surveying I just fell in love with it.... and we wanted the project like the one we got last year was just amazing.....

            my boat is a 1988...the floor inside were gelcoated or just plywood and fiberglass?

            No opening to inspect?

            tks

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              #7
              Enjoy the boat!

              The next time that you encounter a Bayliner "Nah Sayer", just tell them that you too were concerned about what happened to many entry level boats of yester-years.

              Then tell them that after educating yourself, you found it to be overly exaggerated and not a Bayliner ONLY problem!

              That will satisfy their agenda and will quiet them down some.
              Rick E. Gresham, Oregon
              2850 Bounty Sedan Flybridge model
              Twin 280 HP 5.7's w/ Closed Cooling
              Volvo Penta DuoProp Drives
              Kohler 4 CZ Gen Set

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                #8
                You know this one bugs me. I have a 4087. My buddies call it affectionately "your standard 3 bed, 2 bath on the water".

                I owned a Grand Banks. I've been on countless high end boats.

                It's no doubt that Bay's are production boats. But there are more out there than any other manufacturer. And sure, it's not finished like a Searay, or Azimut or whatever higher end boat, but really, go boating. that's why Bayliner does well. They get us out on the water, and that my friends is what matters.

                Had I decided to buy a similar sized Searay, I would have a nicer finish for sure, and probably a few more pieces of gingerbread and so on, but I would have had to go in for at least twice the amount of dough.

                I don't know much about much, but when we are all tied up basking in our superiority, I think we are the wise ones in the anchorage.

                Go boating.

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                  #9
                  ^^^^^^well said.

                  I also have a 4087, and love the layout. Further, I see surveys and claims on all types of boats, and there is no greater incidence of problems with Bayliners vs others boats.

                  Fhe perception does not meet the reality.

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                    #10
                    Oh come on! Everyone knows Bayliner sucks, and in order to save the boating community I plan to buy them all. When I'm done with that project I plan on buying all the Ford F250's.:arr

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                      #11
                      J McCallum wrote:
                      You know this one bugs me. I have a 4087. My buddies call it affectionately "your standard 3 bed, 2 bath on the water".

                      I owned a Grand Banks. I've been on countless high end boats.

                      It's no doubt that Bay's are production boats. But there are more out there than any other manufacturer. And sure, it's not finished like a Searay, or Azimut or whatever higher end boat, but really, go boating. that's why Bayliner does well. They get us out on the water, and that my friends is what matters.

                      Had I decided to buy a similar sized Searay, I would have a nicer finish for sure, and probably a few more pieces of gingerbread and so on, but I would have had to go in for at least twice the amount of dough.

                      I don't know much about much, but when we are all tied up basking in our superiority, I think we are the wise ones in the anchorage.

                      Go boating.
                      Pretty much sums it all up.
                      Port: Sassafras River Georgetown, MD Bayliner 2000 2855 7.4

                      http://www.chart.state.md.us/video/v...50fa36c4235c0a

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                        #12
                        I am really tempted to cut the floor open to check everything....take the furniture out.....
                        I wouldn't start opening a can that may not have worms.

                        I have until the may to finish my boat....them my inlaws are here and I defenally gonna need the boat to run away from them lol.....
                        Good one, does your wife read these posts ??
                        " WET EVER "
                        1989 2459 TROPHY OFFSHORE 5.8L COBRA / SX
                        mmsi 338108404
                        mmsi 338124956
                        "I started with nothing and still have most of it left"

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                          #13
                          Oh save yourself.. Sell her to one of us cheap before she sinks under you. :kidding

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                          Jim McNeely
                          New Hope a 2004 Bayliner 305 Sunbridge Express Cruiser
                          Twin 5.7s with Bravo2 drives
                          Brighton, Michigan USA
                          MMSI # 367393410

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                            #14
                            Oh these posts are always enjoyable. I cant tell you how many times I have heard that about my various bayliners at docks. In the end, all boats can rot if they are not taken care of. My 3055 had a bit of rot due to an ongoing leak that mechanics couldnt figure out. After a few hours its all fixed up, the small amount of rot cleaned. Its no big deal, if the elak would have been fixed when it was found 5 years ago it wouldnt have been an issue in the 1st place.

                            I cant tell you how many pictures I have seen of searay hulls fills with water, holes drilled in the side of the baot letting them drain. All boats can have rot, if they are not taken care of. Water intrusion is an issue anywhere, fix it soon and you will have no rot. Let it continue for years, and the rot will occur.

                            Due to their low cost bayliners tend to bring in new boaters to the industry. These novice boaters many times do not understand how to take care of a boat. One of my favorites is when I visited my 2355 at a shop getting some repairs done, completely uncovered in the rain. I covered it myself and went inside to chew some ***... The 1st thing their smart mouth mechanic said "oh your one of those people who dont think boats should get wet.....My response wasnt very pleasent.

                            If you take care of your boat, you simple will not have this issue. Keep the inside dry, do your maint, you wont have issues. Bayliners have no more rot then any other manufacture can. I think our website is a testimate to bayliner, No other manufacture has such a large customer based forum period.

                            Your going to hear that crap often, its from ignorant people that most often have never owned one and if they did have no clue how to take care of a boat.

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                              #15
                              biohazard wrote:
                              One of my favorites is when I visited my 2355 at a shop getting some repairs done, completely uncovered in the rain. I covered it myself and went inside to chew some ***... The 1st thing their smart mouth mechanic said "oh your one of those people who dont think boats should get wet.....My response wasnt very pleasent.

                              Your going to hear that crap often, its from ignorant people that most often have never owned one and if they did have no clue how to take care of a boat.
                              Well said. I've owned 6 of them since 1987 and have endured the "oh, it's a Bayliner"..... comments over the years. I believe none of them actually ever owned one. It's just "what they heard"..... I would not hesitate to own another; and probably will.

                              Funny you said that about the rain/cover. Last time I had my bottom paint done, the boatyard left my top side cockpit cover off. Even left the dash cover off. It was blowing Santa Ana winds and leaves, debris, dirt was getting into my just detailed and pristine cockpit. I was beyond pissed. The shipyard manager could not understand why I was so upset. Told him if I have to debate this in the first place, he would not even remotely understand. The boat came in with covers and was pristine showing pride of ownership. I expected it to be treated the same. It wasn't. Never went back again, and never recommended them again. The only person who ever understood completely how I take care of my boats, was my salesman at the Dealership I purchased 5 of them from. Which speaks for itself as to why I kept coming back to them for boats and/or service. He made sure to take care of it the same way I did when it was there. Also why he was able to sell it in one day!!!! :coo-

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