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  • Quetz
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  • Quetz
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    Builderdude, yeah the plug was in place and secure. It is threatened. The water intrusion pace was very much in line with no plug, it was fast.

    Norton Rider, I might very well have to take your suggestion. I just tried to get my fat ass by dropping down the side and got as far as my man boobs and got stuck . . . . I was still 2 feet from the pomp.

    PoPete, thanks for all the great insight. Checked the wiring and I can barely get to it, but it looks fine.the front pump kicks in and I can shut it off now. .I filled the bilge so the back pump circuitry might have activated and got stuck on. Not sure if they are independently wired. It could also be the switch which was getting a little stuck and I sprayed some silicone in it, but regardless the main pump on the bilge it's not doing anything.

    on to the water intrusion. . . I'm not really a boat guy but I am a little mechanically inclined and they're rubber on all the boots does not look aged to where it could be compromised. I looked with a light and the Integrity of the rubber is good all around and I don't see any holes at all.

    I work on my cars and motorcycles, but not too in depth oh, do you think I could take the drive off and fix it or should I just take it to the mechanic? You're very detailed response makes me question my ability to do the work myself. This is a very expensive fix generally?
    Thanks again guys, I was not expecting such great Insight from you guys, as I'm used to the motorcycle forums where guys can be jerks. Thanks again!!!




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  • Pcpete
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    There are several things at play here. First, the water intrusion when the boat is in the water sounds very much like a bellows issue. Starting with the drive down, put it one way hard over and look at the folds for tears. Use a long Phillips screwdriver to move the folds around. You should be able to use the housing as a leverage point to probe. Next raise the drive all the way and repeat. Look closely at the hose clamps at each end of the bellows, very often the clamp looks good but when probed will pop off. Another, smaller place is the shifter bellows and it usually requires popping off the drive. If you are comfortable doing that, and haven’t done it before, ask for instructions here on the forum and there will be lots of support. IMO, changing a tire can be worse.
    If the bellows haven’t been changed since 2002, and the boat is stored out of the water as you say, i suggest changing the whole set, driveline, exhaust and shifter. Over time the rubber can dry out and crack. If you do it yourself, be sure to use the quicksilver bellows glue. It’s probably a first cousin to contact cement, but the amount of work to get the project to that point justifies a few extra dollars.
    As to the bilge pump, two things come to mind. Yes, a blown fuse, or a connector gone bad. Getting it out from under the engine is often a matter of getting it out of the mount, the strainer part that’s attached to the hull. This is a great time to have a nimble youngster available. You can sometimes borrow them. There’s a little Tom Sawyer involved, or was it Huck Finn, whitewashing the fence, but they can get places most of us can’t and if carefully directed can really make it fun. Any connectors you replace need to be covered with shrink wrap with hot melt glue inside, yup, marine grade, available from amazon, to keep the water from getting into the connection. While it where you can marginally get at it, check to see that it isn’t jammed or full of stuff that might keep the pump from spinning. Make sure the float switch actually turns the pump on. Don’t ask. I found the wires to be the most common place for a problem and often one of the wires going to the float switch would fall away when moved.
    Let us know what you find.

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  • builderdude
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    Threaded Bilge drain plug located at the very bottom of the transom on the exterior

  • Quetz
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    Thank you for your prompt response.

    are you referring to the main light plug for the boat? I'm sorry, but I'm not sure I know what the garboard is.

    I will check all fuses.

    thanks again!!!

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  • Norton_Rider
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    Originally posted by Quetz View Post
    2) during this Fiasco the rear bilge pump did not kick in. Is there a trick to getting down that low and changing the bilge pump? It looks nearly impossible to get to. Could it be a fuse or something simple on the bilge pump?
    On many boats the bilge pump is impossible to access without pulling the engine. What I did in the past was fabricate a pump mount from aluminum that attached to a stringer and placed the pump down low, under the engine. Then I installed the mount and pump as a unit. After the new pump was installed I disconnected the old pump and left it in place. There are some horizontal bilge pumps that may make this easier.

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  • builderdude
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    The garboard plug was installed?
    yes, there should be a fuse for the bilge pump and a float switch to activate when water level gets to high.
    Likely u joint and/or shift cable bellow related. Could also be a faulty transom seal.

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  • Quetz
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    Sinking -No Bail - Ciera 2252

    I have a 2002 Bayliner 2252 with a 5.0 merc. I have a couple of issues:

    1) I de-winterized the boat and it ran great. I put the earmuffs on it and it ran for longer that 30 minutes and it was moving water perfectly. I put it in the river and water started pouring into the bilge at such a rate that I barely got back to the dock (15 min total). The water got as high as the bottom of the engine. I took it home and ran it again with the earmuffs and did not get water intrusion, so it's obviously not coming from the engine. Where are obvious water intrusions on this model boat? I visibly inspected the Bellas and they don't seem torn, but then again I'm not sure what I'm looking at.

    2) during this Fiasco the rear bilge pump did not kick in. Is there a trick to getting down that low and changing the bilge pump? It looks nearly impossible to get to. Could it be a fuse or something simple on the bilge pump?

    3) The gas guague is not working. Is it fused?

    this is a new boat to me this season so any help will be greatly appreciated!!

    cheers
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