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    Help me with a small but annoying problem.-gctid396335

    I have a 2005 185 with a 3.0. I have had the carb rebuilt due to ethenol problems.

    The boat runs great hot or cold. The small problem is when starting. Again this happens hot or cold.

    I pretty much have to prime the carb with 4-5 throttle pumps and then hold the throttle lever all the way down while I turn the key. Even then I have to hold the key in the start position for several seconds before it catches. Also the boat does not like to iddle for any length of time. Yesterday I was waiting in line at the ramp and had to restart it several time. Then as I was

    Pulling in it died as well. This is after a full day of running with no issues except when i shut off and try to restart.

    So I was thinking maybe the choke or maybe the mixture is to lean but need your advice.

    #2
    The choke plate Helix linkage will cause the plate to default to a closed position on a cold engine.

    The Helix heating element actually pulls the choke plate OFF, allowing it to open fully.

    To set or adjust the choke plate, you'll need to begin with a cold engine.

    I don't know your exact choke pull-off scenario, but if the heating element is Ignition powered, the moment that the key switch is turned ON, the Helix heating element begins it's process.

    If you hesitate to start immediately with Key ON......, you'll loose enrichment during the cold start.

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    Rick E. Gresham, Oregon
    2850 Bounty Sedan Flybridge model
    Twin 280 HP 5.7's w/ Closed Cooling
    Volvo Penta DuoProp Drives
    Kohler 4 CZ Gen Set

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      #3
      the starting issue could be from what Rick explained but what bothers me a bit with this is that it also dies after being warm as at that state the choke should be closed. Unfortunately I can't provide a better theory. It may also be some air leak which drains the carb empty when off?????

      My engine always needs 2 "pumps" and about 1/4 throttle for cold start. After it warmed up it always starts w/o any help. No problems with E10 except for the permeability of the Moeller plastic tank at high temperatures (it stinks).

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        #4
        I have a 2005 185 with a 3.0. I have had the carb rebuilt due to ethenol problems.
        Your boat and carb were already ethanol-compatible from the factory. Since it seems like some mechanic lied to you, I'd also question the quality of his rebuild work. Did this problem start right after it was rebuilt?

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          #5
          Swamp... i agree with you ! On a warm engine you should have to only touch the key and it should start without having to touch the throttle.
          Be good, be happy, for tomorrow is promised to no man !

          1994 2452, 5.0l, Alpha gen. 2 drive. Sold ! Sold ! Sold !

          '86 / 19' Citation cuddy, Merc. 3.0L / 140 hp 86' , stringer drive. Sold ! Sold ! Sold !

          Manalapan N.J

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            #6
            I sure wish people would put up a general location. I lost count how many boats i looked at for free i love this chit.
            Be good, be happy, for tomorrow is promised to no man !

            1994 2452, 5.0l, Alpha gen. 2 drive. Sold ! Sold ! Sold !

            '86 / 19' Citation cuddy, Merc. 3.0L / 140 hp 86' , stringer drive. Sold ! Sold ! Sold !

            Manalapan N.J

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              #7
              Chief Alen wrote:
              I sure wish people would put up a general location. I lost count how many boats i looked at for free i love this chit.
              looks like it is extremely difficult to fill out the location box when setting up the profile. Is there a way to make it a mandatory entry?

              I just helped a guy on another topic board. After 2 weeks of back and forth I found out that I could walk to his house. Did that and the problem was fixed within 15 minutes......

              Yes, a carb'd engine will need a bit of help for cold start but once it is warm my 3.0 also starts by just turning the key.

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                #8
                Location is Richmond va.

                As to the carb being factory set up for ethonal. I respectfully disagree. I may have gotten an old carb from the shelf but I had the boat for 2 yrs and only ran none E fuel with no problems. It wasnt until the local gas station went to E fuel that I had problems. Spent an entire season trying to figure out what went wrong. It was only fixed when I ordered a rebuilt carb to work with E fuel.

                This problem is fairly recent. I will start with the choke.

                Any advice on how to adjust it? If you need more info to advice me please just let me know.

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                  #9
                  Ok just pulled out my Manuel and looked at my choke. The Manuel indicates if I turn the choke housing clock wise for more choke and counter is less. Right now it's set as per the factory setting.

                  So I was thinking of trying to adjust it. Based on the above symptoms I was thinking more choke is this right ?

                  If you are thinking of flaming me for asking this. Please don't it's pointless.

                  Thanks

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                    #10
                    Warm the choke plate should be wide open. Maybe the float level is off. Sorry your too far away. Maybe someone down your way can come over.
                    Be good, be happy, for tomorrow is promised to no man !

                    1994 2452, 5.0l, Alpha gen. 2 drive. Sold ! Sold ! Sold !

                    '86 / 19' Citation cuddy, Merc. 3.0L / 140 hp 86' , stringer drive. Sold ! Sold ! Sold !

                    Manalapan N.J

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                      #11
                      A bit off topic, but you bring up a very good point.

                      kjs wrote:
                      • 1 wrote:
                      • looks like it is extremely difficult to fill out the location box when setting up the profile.
                      • Is there a way to make it a mandatory entry?

                      • 1 wrote:
                      • It's actually pretty simple and easy.
                      • I believe that I mentioned this to Doug once.

                        It would be great if during joining the BOC we were required to fill in certain fields of an entry form.

                        Nothing too personal: Name, boat make/year/size/engine/drive, etc would be required as a Signature.

                        Location would automatically show up (upper right hand corner)

                        Avatar optional.



                      Rick E. Gresham, Oregon
                      2850 Bounty Sedan Flybridge model
                      Twin 280 HP 5.7's w/ Closed Cooling
                      Volvo Penta DuoProp Drives
                      Kohler 4 CZ Gen Set

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                        #12
                        Rick, I guess I forgot the and tags in my posting........

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