Battery Charger - Transom Electrical-gctid379301

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I've taken my transom repair thread a little off track by documenting some of my electrical upgrades. I'm starting a new thread to separate the two.

Based on advice I've gotten here, I've decided to upgrade my OEM 8amp battery cooking charger. The most relevant thread I could find on Battery Chargers has been closed so I'm putting my info here. A saw some mentions of the ProMariner battery charges and I've decided to purchase one. I know some have been very happy dealing with the company directly and have said they have a fantastic upgrade program.

I decided to purchased a a refurbished a ProTech 1240i Plus. I got it for a great price ($149) WM sells it for $400. I bought it from chargerguysales on ebay. He sells 400+ units of this model per year. He has been fantastic to deal with and has excellent feedback (over 1200+).

Features here:

1) Fully Automatic Multi-Stage Charging

4 complete stages, for fast charge times, conditioning, maintenance of each battery & dockside power supply mode

2)Active Battery Balance Control (BBC)

Actively monitors the condition of each battery or bank while charging, to ensure no battery is overcharged. (ProTech 1230i Plus, 1240i Plus and 2420i Plus only)

3)User Programmable Battery Type Selector

For use with Lead Acid, AGM and GEL Batteries

4)User Programmable Conditioning Mode 1 to 4 Hours

5)Fully Automatic Wide Range Global AC Input

Select 95VAC ÔÇö 250VAC 50/60Hz

6)Built In Safety

Ignition protection, over temperature, over voltage and reverse polarity protection

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I just received my Yandina Battery Combiner 100. I ordered it after reading some favorable things here and on another forum. I've read some forum posts from the developer somewhere (maybe iboats). That's what made me go with this product over the similar Blue Sea product. Yandina is a small company (3 employees/based on a forum post). I like supporting the little guy.

I ordered on Friday and I have it today. From the packaging:

• Combines batteries together when charging and separates them when charging ceases.
• No voltage drop compared to diode isolators so your batteries receive a full charge
• Works with all charging sources: shore powe, alternator, solar, wind

Unlimited Warranty

For alternators up to 100 Amps. Waterproof. LED indicators. Draws no current when off charge. Less than .15 amps when charging.

Total cost including shipping - $70.45. I love the warranty. They also have a 160amp version.

Greg

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wefivehodges wrote:
I've taken my transom repair thread a little off track by documenting some of my electrical upgrades. I'm starting a new thread to separate the two.

Based on advice I've gotten here, I've decided to upgrade my OEM 8amp battery cooking charger. The most relevant thread I could find on Battery Chargers has been closed so I'm putting my info here. A saw some mentions of the ProMariner battery charges and I've decided to purchase one. I know some have been very happy dealing with the company directly and have said they have a fantastic upgrade program.

I decided to purchased a a refurbished a ProTech 1240i Plus. I got it for a great price ($149) WM sells it for $400. I bought it from chargerguysales on ebay. He sells 400+ units of this model per year. He has been fantastic to deal with and has excellent feedback (over 1200+).

Features here:

1) Fully Automatic Multi-Stage Charging

4 complete stages, for fast charge times, conditioning, maintenance of each battery & dockside power supply mode

2)Active Battery Balance Control (BBC)

Actively monitors the condition of each battery or bank while charging, to ensure no battery is overcharged. (ProTech 1230i Plus, 1240i Plus and 2420i Plus only)

3)User Programmable Battery Type Selector

For use with Lead Acid, AGM and GEL Batteries

4)User Programmable Conditioning Mode 1 to 4 Hours

5)Fully Automatic Wide Range Global AC Input

Select 95VAC ÔÇö 250VAC 50/60Hz

6)Built In Safety

Ignition protection, over temperature, over voltage and reverse polarity protection

I almost got that model too. When I was discussing options with the tech support guy at the factory I asked about a display. He said I would have to get the Pronautic model for that, so I did. Anyway. If you didn't take advantage of Promariner's program and buy direct from them, your price of $149 is great. Best of luck on your installation

Also, a WARNING TO YOU:

Wingless has been calling me out for awhile now noting to many (not on this site, yet) that my charger is installed improperly(not to "QUOTE" ABYC standards as he noted). I wasn't sure until he posted a picture I posted during my installation, quite some time ago (Mar '08), but I believe I found what he was referring too. What the guy doesn't know is that it is installed correctly and he was trying to nitpick and cause an online arguement.

What he is referring to is the ground wire that is missing in this image. I guess I should have taken pictures when I was all the way done.



Anyway I have been racking my brain trying to see what he was talking about, because he's not the kind of guy that would point out a safety issue, he just tries to be a bully. So, I went to look at my install again and see if I was missing something. I was it was the ground wire, but it's been there all along, I just didn't have the updated pic, so I took one.



I just want you to avoid the scrutiny of the Super Genius. He's an internet bully.

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Thanks for the info Todd. I'm looking forward to getting the charger. :-) How much more was it to get the unit with the display? I was planning on going with the Xantrex Link Lite for a display. I didn't consider the connected display. Maybe I should have.

Greg

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I think it was another $100 or so, but it only attached to the Pronautic not the Protech.

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What info does the display offer.? I'm thinking of upgrading to the model you have now.:-)

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wefivehodges wrote:
What info does the display offer.? I'm thinking of upgrading to the model you have now.:-)

It shows what state of charge you are in, battery temp, charger temp, amps it's using and adjustable features; like backlight, scrolling status, power, etc.

I really like it and I'm glad I upgraded.

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Thanks for the info Todd. I was able to upgrade to the Pronautic 1240c for an additional $20. I purchased the screen on ebay for $80. Both the charger and screen came with free shipping. So it looks like I'm in $260 for the charger and display. :-)

If anyone is looking for a charger, I highly recommend chargersalesguy on ebay. I shop a ton on ebay and rarely run into anyone as helpful as this guy. I had already placed my order for the ProTech 1240i Plus, it was ready to ship and at the 11th hour the seller held the sale and let me make the swap. He also said if I ever have a problem to call and he will get me straight. Anazon sells this same charger without the display for $580.

Greg

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wefivehodges wrote:
I was planning on going with the Xantrex Link Lite for a display. I didn't consider the connected display. Maybe I should have.

Greg, just a friendly FYI for you.

The Xantrex LINK.... whether the LINK-lite or one of the others, will track Amp Hours in/out of our HLBB's.

Amp Hours is a much more meaningful means of monitoring.

Voltage readings offer us limited data only.

Some of the LINKs will also interface with the Xantrex Freedom series Chrg/Inv'rs.

This gives full function remote control of the Freedom units.

The ProMariner ProNautics Remote is a control and display unit, but will not track Amp Hours!

Just a heads up in case you were thinking that this unit was an actual battery bank monitoring system.

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I did figure that out Rick, thanks. I just liked the idea of the display. I still plan on getting the link lite.

It's on my list with a new bilge pump. I like the idea of having two in the engine bay, 1 big and 1 bigger (higher up).

I think I'm going to have the safest boat that never makes it in the water. :-)

I wish I could be working on the boat. It's raining again here. :-( I do have both transom layers in and I have 1 layer of tabbing around.

Greg

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wefivehodges wrote:

• 1 wrote:
• It's on my list with a new bilge pump. I like the idea of having two in the engine bay, 1 big and 1 bigger (higher up).
• I think I'm going to have the safest boat that never makes it in the water. :-)

• 1 wrote:
• Greg, no need to mount the pump higher up. It's the float switch that will be mounted at a higher elevation, and will be powered so that it's un-interruptible.
• It sure sounds like it! The safe part..... not the part about never making it in the water..... you will make it!

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2850Bounty wrote:
Greg, just a friendly FYI for you.

The Xantrex LINK.... whether the LINK-lite or one of the others, will track Amp Hours in/out of our HLBB's.

Amp Hours is a much more meaningful means of monitoring.

Voltage readings offer us limited data only.

Some of the LINKs will also interface with the Xantrex Freedom series Chrg/Inv'rs.

This gives full function remote control of the Freedom units.

The ProMariner ProNautics Remote is a control and display unit, but will not track Amp Hours!

Just a heads up in case you were thinking that this unit was an actual battery bank monitoring system.

.

wefivehodges wrote:
I did figure that out Rick, thanks. I just liked the idea of the display. I still plan on getting the link lite.

It's on my list with a new bilge pump. I like the idea of having two in the engine bay, 1 big and 1 bigger (higher up).

I think I'm going to have the safest boat that never makes it in the water. :-)

I wish I could be working on the boat. It's raining again here. :-( I do have both transom layers in and I have 1 layer of tabbing around.

Greg

That's correct. This monitor just monitors the charging state of each bank, including temp of batteries, charger and amperage. It does not monitor the draw and battery Amp hours remaining.

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Nehalennia wrote:
I almost got that model too. When I was discussing options with the tech support guy at the factory I asked about a display. He said I would have to get the Pronautic model for that, so I did. Anyway. If you didn't take advantage of Promariner's program and buy direct from them, your price of $149 is great. Best of luck on your installation

Also, a WARNING TO YOU:

Wingless has been calling me out for awhile now noting to many (not on this site, yet) that my charger is installed improperly(not to "QUOTE" ABYC standards as he noted). I wasn't sure until he posted a picture I posted during my installation, quite some time ago (Mar '08), but I believe I found what he was referring too. What the guy doesn't know is that it is installed correctly and he was trying to nitpick and cause an online arguement.

What he is referring to is the ground wire that is missing in this image. I guess I should have taken pictures when I was all the way done.



Anyway I have been racking my brain trying to see what he was talking about, because he's not the kind of guy that would point out a safety issue, he just tries to be a bully. So, I went to look at my install again and see if I was missing something. I was it was the ground wire, but it's been there all along, I just didn't have the updated pic, so I took one.



I just want you to avoid the scrutiny of the Super Genius. He's an internet bully.

I just want to comment and say you have a very nice set up. I love how neat it is!!

It's been damp here, keeping my from my fiberglass project so I've turned my attention to my electrical. Unfortunately, I don't have a vertical space with 6" of clearance in every direction. I read on another post that you can mount our charger horizontally. That's what I'm doing with mine. I found a great spot over by my batteries. I'm going to glass in a piece of plywood to make it work. :-)

Greg

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wefivehodges wrote:
I just want to comment and say you have a very nice set up. I love how neat it is!!

It's been damp here, keeping my from my fiberglass project so I've turned my attention to my electrical. Unfortunately, I don't have a vertical space with 6" of clearance in every direction. I read on another post that you can mount our charger horizontally. That's what I'm doing with mine. I found a great spot over by my batteries. I'm going to glass in a piece of plywood to make it work. :-)

Greg

If it helps what I did, so I didn't have to drill new holes is that I removed the old charger and used the bolt pattern on a new mounting back board. I screwed the backboard to the existing holes and screwed the new charger to the backboard.

Before



After

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Very smart Todd!! I glassed in a piece of 3/4" plywood quite a bit larger than my charger. I mounted mine horizontally. I researched that quite a bit apparently tech support at pro mariner say its ok.

I finally got my electric hooked up. I still need to secure the wires and such but its functional. Right now I have the Pro Nautic 1240c and my MBSS connected. 2 batteries are currently onboard. I will soon be adding a third I will also wire in my combiner, maybe Monday.

I was excited to finally have lights and pumps on my boat. They have been off since November.

I'll post pics after I get it all neatened up. Maybe Monday. I'm working the weekend.

Greg