Gen-Sep install.-gctid378005

[Guest]

My neighbor installed a Gen-sep on his 1969 44 foot Egg Harbor. I inspected his install and he fired the old Genny up, wow it is very quiet. I have decided to take on this project myself. I am going to re-use my Vernalift muffler and just add the Gen-sep. The moorings in LA at the Island are pretty close quarters so firing my obnoxious Westerbeke at 7AM to brew coffee is just rude. (I do not have an inverter).

I have to mount the Gen-sep to the transom wall up-high near the exhaust loop. This unit will have some pressure running through it and I am a bit nervous about using tiny screws to mount it. I certainly do not want to bolt through the transom and have ugly screws visible next to the "Reel Joy" decal on the back.

My idea is to use a couple pieces of wood maybe 1 x 4 or 2 x 4 and glue them to the transom, then mount the Gen-sep on the wood..

A couple of questions:

Do you agree with gluing the wood to the transom for the mount? If so is a 2 x 4 to heavy? Also, should I use epoxy or 5200 or what for the wood to fiberglass stick?

I am not a mechanic and have dealt with engine hoses, to me they are a pain in the A**. I will have to run new hoses and cut a new hole at the water line for a second exhaust through hull. Is there a trick to getting the hoses on to the through hull, muffler, etc? My thoughts were to oil the end male pieces and to heat up the hose so I can get them on? Any advise on this is much appreciated.

I will photo the entire install and document it here in-case someone else wants to do this upgrade. I am hoping to get this done before Memorial day weekend..

As always, all opinions and advice is welcome and appreciated.

[Guest]

Bryan,

I'd be interested in how it was done and photos.

Richard

[Guest]

The transom is VERY thick. I would use #12 x 1" screws if you're screwing in flat stuff like a mounting tab or hose loop, longer if it's a thick item. Getting 3/4" of bite from a #12 screw into the transom is going to be SOLID!! Or even a #10 for lighter stuff. Both of those are perfectly valid and strong ways to do this. I would use 3M 101 or 4000 to seal any holes, definitely not 5200.

Your idea to provide a backer board is good when you are putting in a bunch of screws in a small area, so you drill only two screws into the transom and all the others into the backer board. But in this case I really don't think it's warranted.

Now on this Gen-sep thing...am I understanding correctly that what it does is quiet the burbling of a wet exhaust? I've never found that to be objectionable. I have a 2001 Westerbeke 4.5, and while not silent, I don't think the exhaust is awful. What I don't like is the amount of engine noise it produces in the cabin, particularly the aft.

[MidnightSun]

You will like the Gen Sep, I have one and it makes a huge difference. Unfortunately I haver no pics and the boat is rather far away right now. I used and additional piece of plywood glued to the ransom with 5200 as adhesive. Wish I could help more.

[Guest]

Carlos,

Thanks for the info...

Here is a link to the Gen-sep. It separates the water and gas. On my neighbors generator the engine and the exhaust were both very quiet. I will take a quick video of my Genny before & after so you can see for yourself the difference.

http://www.centekindustries.com/gen-sep.html

[MidnightSun]

This will not quiet down the generator itself, only the exhaust note. What is does is it gets rid of the "sail boat burble" as I call it, so basically all the water runs under the water line and the exhaust is above which is now just a hiss rather than a noisy repeating burbling sound. I went one step further and put on a sound shield, this definitely quiets down the generator itself yet does nothing for the exhaust note. Combine the 2 installations and you are as quiet as it will ever get.

[Guest]

I will take a quick video of my Genny before & after so you can see for yourself the difference.

That would be great!