New windlass for 285 - which one?-gctid344492

[Guest]

Hi there,

The time has come to add a windlass for our 285. Problem is, which one?

Bayliner supplied options to date have included the Sprint 600, Lewmar V700 and Quick Aster 512. There is also the Lewmar V1 however that seems a lot bigger and heavier and I am keen to stay within the moulded "footprint" on deck. There's also the South Pacific VS1000 which I have not seen yet.

Lets assume all are OK from a pulling power perspective. The Sprint 600 motor is vertical - is that OK? The V700 is stainless but requires a large shape to be cut out on deck - not sure what happens if I want to upgrade / change in future? Also, it's motor also hangs vertically. The Quick, which seems to be the most recent factory option on the "old" 285, is chrome-plated bronze so not sure how long that will last; however, it requires the smallest cut-outs on deck and thereby can be upgraded / replaced later if needed. Motor is horizontal i.e. out of the way. The South Pacific also has a vertical motor, comes in stainless and weighs the least.

So, which one? I guess key questions are:

1) Does the vertical motor cause any issues e.g. the heap of chain to be manually "flattened"?

2) Does the Quick's chrome-plating come off over time?

Any other factors that I need to consider? Price is not the big issue - all are expensive! - but I'd really want it to fit and work without additional hassles. I'm looking to use around 15m/45ft of 7mm or 8mm chain plus the same in rope.

Many thanks,

Eugene

[Guest]

I've had great luck with the lewmar v700..I've had it on 2 boats now and they work extremely well and as advertised....

:arr arr

[Go Aweigh2452]

seapuppy wrote:
I've had great luck with the lewmar v700..I've had it on 2 boats now and they work extremely well and as advertised....

:arr arr

+1

[dktool]

[img]/media/kunena/attachments/vb/647143=23845-WIND3.jpg[/img] I'm on my second, ( 2 boats ) Marpac (South pacific ) brand horizontal, I have had good luck with them.

[2850Bounty]

Eugene, member AbigayleIII has a https://"http://www.baylinerownerscl...indlass thread going also. Give it a look see.

EugeneR wrote:
................ Problem is, which one?

The Sprint 600 motor is vertical - is that OK?

[COLOR]"#0000FF" wrote:
Some have complained about water intrusion with the vertical motors..... and these are typically clock-works type gear reduction. [/COLOR]

The V700 is stainless but requires a large shape to be cut out on deck - not sure what happens if I want to upgrade / change in future?

[COLOR]"#0000FF" wrote:
Doubt that this is too much of an issue.

**I changed from one style L/P Vertical to an AnchorLift of same L/P Vertical style...., and had very little cutting and adjustment to do. [/COLOR]

Also, it's motor also hangs vertically.

[COLOR]"#0000FF" wrote:
That's what I'd steer clear of.

I'd upgrade to one w/ the angled motor and worm drive reduction.

The upper gypsy housing installs from top side, and the motor and gear reduction system installs from inside the rode locker area. [/COLOR]

.... is chrome-plated bronze so not sure how long that will last;

[COLOR]"#0000FF" wrote:
Chrome is Chrome.... and we all know how that holds up -vs- SS.[/COLOR]

however, it requires the smallest cut-outs on deck and thereby can be upgraded / replaced later if needed.

[COLOR]"#0000FF" wrote:
**See above[/COLOR]

Motor is horizontal i.e. out of the way. The South Pacific also has a vertical motor, comes in stainless and weighs the least.

So, which one? I guess key questions are:

1) Does the vertical motor cause any issues e.g. the heap of chain to be manually "flattened"?

[COLOR]"#0000FF" wrote:
If your rode locker is already on the side of being small, or the drop is limited....., then you may want to give this some thought.

Otherwise, I'd say NO. [/COLOR]

2) Does the Quick's chrome-plating come off over time?

[COLOR]"#0000FF" wrote:
Ask the company, find out if warranteed. [/COLOR]

Any other factors that I need to consider? Price is not the big issue - all are expensive! - but I'd really want it to fit and work without additional hassles.

[COLOR]"#0000FF" wrote:
And aint that the truth!

When installed correctly, these should work hands-free.

An occasional jamb is not out of the question, but............. [/COLOR]

Redundant as of lately with the several Windlass threads going.... but:

Horzontal Windlass gypsy offers approx 80* of rode contact.

The rode deck hole is in-line with center of bow deck, and will be cut aft of center of gypsy.

This places the fall or drop aft of the gypsy.... which is usually favorable.

Vertical Windlass gypsy offers approx 180* of rode contact.

The rode deck hole is off-set to Port side of center of bow deck, and will be cut fwd of center of gypsy.

This may create the need for the Windlass to be mounted further aft in order to get the correct fall or drop location into the rode locker.

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[Guest]

I remember starting one last year too, and there where 4 others going not long after.

One season so far using the Lewmar Pro Fish 700 and very happy with it. Solid, SS contruction and went all chain rode. The bow needed the extra weight.

[Jeffw]

seapuppy wrote:
I've had great luck with the lewmar v700..I've had it on 2 boats now and they work extremely well and as advertised....

:arr arr

+2. You'll probably change boats before you need another windlass...

[TenMile]

My advice to you is to scour Craigslist and your local Online Classifieds. I found a brand new Lewmar 700 (Horizontal mount) still in the box that a guy had purchased and not installed. Convinced him to sell it to me for $500 given that it is no longer under warranty. It is quite the piece of steel!

[Guest]

Thanks to all who replied. I have read most of the orher threads on this before posting but was hoping to hear from 285 / 2855 owners in particular because the chain locker is very small so things like horizontal vs vertical motor mounting may be more important. The windlass itself will be horizontal. Worst case, I go with something that requires a large, odd shaped deck cutout just to find the vertical motor causes the chain to get stuck all the time when the chain mountain reaches the motor bottom, then its difficult to fit something else instead etc.