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    i have 1977 victoria 2750.my boat does not have the marine panels (ac and dc ).i think that You are familiar what im talking about.i have 2 ac breakers in the engine compartment mounted on the fresh water tank on the port side.one for the water heater and the second for recepticals .there is also in the same spot 4 dc fuses.i want to move everything to the galley.

    i will install a normal marine ac panel and dc panel in the galley.what i want is water heater,coffe maker,toaster,cabin light,portable heater and fridge.all this is on the port side ac in the galley.

    the starboard side i need ac fridge,tv and one light.do i really need a main braker ?

    on the dc panel i need fridge starboard side and and 2 lights.on the port side 2 lights.

    i have the big sliding door so if i need a main breaker i can install on the entry to cabin on the starboard side,but i thought that the ac shore cord is the main breaker.

    what do i need to buy,which breakers panels.

    i don`t think that i will be ever on the hook overnight

    the other option is something like this :

    http://rvpowerpartsplus.net/index.ph...abfb475bd583dc

    #2
    My AC panel has been relocated to the head, on the wall above the sink. I have four breakers. It is a residential unit -- as it is not in the presence of moisture or gasoline fumes. I have a fuse box for all DC circuits. I am contemplating a breaker panel in the distant future. My fuse box is located in the head, next to the steering assembly in the cabinet on the aft wall.

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      #3
      like always You help.Thank You.

      can i use residencial panel ?

      right now it looks like residential but it it plastic.

      i thought about galley becouse i can have visual control of the panels

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        #4
        c an i use this instead to residential panel ?this will solve my dilema

        http://rvpowerpartsplus.net/index.ph...abfb475bd583dc

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          #5
          anyway.

          what i need is the options, answers to my first post.

          how many breakers do i need to supply all this i will use.im trying to make this boat as half liveaboard for weekends supply by shore power.on the run i will be 10-12 hours for the weekends

          then back to slip

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            #6
            i have the original dc wiring diagram of electrical system for the main dc.looks like the 2350 nisqually c/b ,2850 bounty c/b and victoria are the same

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              #7
              Andrew, the link did not work for me. Can you post an image of this for us?

              andrew 1 wrote:


              do i really need a main braker ?

              on the dc panel i need fridge starboard side and and 2 lights.on the port side 2 lights.

              i have the big sliding door so if i need a main breaker i can install on the entry to cabin on the starboard side,but i thought that the ac shore cord is the main breaker.

              what do i need to buy,which breakers panels.

              i don`t think that i will be ever on the hook overnight

              the other option is something like this :

              http://rvpowerpartsplus.net/index.ph...abfb475bd583dc
              Andrew, you definitely want and need a main breaker and it will be included in your circuit breaker panel.

              Don't be surprised at how expensive some of these are.

              Something like these perhaps.



              This is from Great Lakes Skipper..... $137

              No AC Volt Meter.



              This one has the slide bar lock-out main breakers that gives you some latitude for power sources.



              From your Shore Power inlet fitting, you will power the HOT and Neutral side of the main breaker and make the ground connection.

              From the panel, you will branch out to your receptacles very similar to a home installation, but using marine wiring and approved equipment.

              I'd be removing the receptacle from the engine bay and also re-wire the WH so that it meets regulations.

              .
              Rick E. Gresham, Oregon
              2850 Bounty Sedan Flybridge model
              Twin 280 HP 5.7's w/ Closed Cooling
              Volvo Penta DuoProp Drives
              Kohler 4 CZ Gen Set

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                #8
                why do i need main breaker ?

                what i read the main breaker is like selector between shore power and generator.

                usually in the small cruisers the main braker is the shore power.

                im not going to have the switch selector

                i think that what i need is very simple but im confuse how many breakers i need.

                that`s obvious i won`t use all recepticals in one time.

                so what do You think ?

                i just don`t want to do it again

                Attached files [img]/media/kunena/attachments/vb/676720=26699-ac_main.jpg[/img]

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                  #9
                  maybe this one

                  http://www.dan-marcrvparts.com/30ampacdcfup.html

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                    #10
                    andrew 1 wrote:
                    • 1 wrote:
                    • why do i need main breaker ?
                    • what i read the main breaker is like selector between shore power and generator.
                    • usually in the small cruisers the main braker is the shore power.
                    • im not going to have the switch selector
                    • i think that what i need is very simple but im confuse how many breakers i need.
                    • that`s obvious i won`t use all recepticals in one time.
                    • so what do You think ?
                    • i just don`t want to do it again




                    • 1 wrote:
                    • Andrew, you need a main breaker just as you need a main breaker in your home electrical panel whether or not you use all branch circuits at once, or not at once.
                    • The main is not a selector switch unless it's the Slide Bar/Lock-out style.
                    • Shore Power is fused, but we want to fuse it again at the destination..... Your Boat!
                    • You don't necessarily need a selector switch (if what you mean is S/P -vs- Generator). These are commonly a "Rotary Selector Switch".
                    • One Main, and as many branch circuits as you see fit.
                    • Just design your system so that you do not over-load any circuits. This may mean more circuits than planned for... or perhaps less.
                    • No offense, but you need to not look at RV equipment, and look at Marine equipment.
                    • I agree..... you want to do this once, and once only..... But do it right!



                    Rick E. Gresham, Oregon
                    2850 Bounty Sedan Flybridge model
                    Twin 280 HP 5.7's w/ Closed Cooling
                    Volvo Penta DuoProp Drives
                    Kohler 4 CZ Gen Set

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                      #11
                      THANK you.

                      so i will install the main breaker on the wall on the starboard side door to cabin then i can wire to the galley.in my situation the galley is the best spot to install those panels

                      so to make it short :

                      from the shore power inlet i will install the main braker then from there i can go whatever i need to the sub panel ?

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                        #12
                        andrew 1 wrote:
                        THANK you.

                        1.... so i will install the main breaker on the wall on the starboard side door to cabin then i can wire to the galley.in my situation the galley is the best spot to install those panels

                        so to make it short :

                        2.... from the shore power inlet i will install the main braker then from there i can go whatever i need to the sub panel ?
                        1.... I don't know if this is your concern, but you do not need to keep the runs short for reasons of resistance alone.

                        As long as the circuit wiring is appropriate, AC current will do just fine within the confines of your hull.

                        12 vdc, on the other hand, becomes more important to keep the runs short.

                        2.... I'd purchase an AC breaker panel that includes the main breaker.... like the ones shown earlier.

                        You'll do just fine, and it will be a fun job.

                        .
                        Rick E. Gresham, Oregon
                        2850 Bounty Sedan Flybridge model
                        Twin 280 HP 5.7's w/ Closed Cooling
                        Volvo Penta DuoProp Drives
                        Kohler 4 CZ Gen Set

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                          #13
                          THANK U

                          another ?

                          "I'd purchase an AC breaker panel that includes the main breaker"

                          in my situation and my needs which one. that was my main ?

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                            #14
                            andrew 1 wrote:
                            THANK U

                            another ?

                            "I'd purchase an AC breaker panel that includes the main breaker"

                            in my situation and my needs which one. that was my main ?
                            OK... I think I see what you're asking.

                            Shore Power for the size slip that your boat would potentially be moored at, will be 30 amp.

                            This means that http://"http://www.wholesalemarine.c... inlet fitting and your http://"http://shop.pkys.com/images/...> main breaker will also be 30 amp.

                            Your branch http://"http://t2.gstatic.com/images...rcuit breakers will vary from 15 amp to 20 amp depending on what you're powering.

                            Marine WH's are generally lower wattage (120 volt AC, BTW), so typically 20 amp breakers will serve these.

                            Now... earlier you mentioned Main and Sub Panel.

                            I take this to mean a Main Breaker panel, and then a remotely located branch circuit panel (w/ no main breaker).

                            This is where I've been suggesting that you use a Main Breaker panel that includes branch circuit breakers.

                            IOW..... an All-In-One panel... such as what I showed you earlier!

                            Keeps it clean, and all in one location.

                            BTW, you can also find AC and DC panels that share the same face plate.

                            This style panel gives you breakers for both AC and DC circuits all in one location.

                            .
                            Rick E. Gresham, Oregon
                            2850 Bounty Sedan Flybridge model
                            Twin 280 HP 5.7's w/ Closed Cooling
                            Volvo Penta DuoProp Drives
                            Kohler 4 CZ Gen Set

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                              #15
                              i have very limited space so i was thinking like this :

                              on the entry to cabin from shore power outlet go to main braker then from main braker go to one panel on the port and one on the starboard side

                              Attached files [img]/media/kunena/attachments/vb/676829=26735-118234_small_0.jpg[/img] [img]/media/kunena/attachments/vb/676829=26734-44280_666739.jpg[/img]

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