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    just bought my first boat any help would be great!-gctid367098

    Just bought an 85 bayliner capri open bow. It has the Volvo pentagon aq125a with 270 stern drive. Put a battery in and wouldn't start. Found starter was bad. Replaced still didn't start but wanted to just killed battery. Bought a new battery same thing wanted to start but killed battery. Do new batterys need to charge first? I charged it up last night and will go from there. Next while I was checking fluids found the oil was milky. Now I'm realy worried. Where should I go from here? Sell it now before it cost me more then the boat? I don't know. I'm a pretty good DIY kinda guy so any thing other then changing motors I can proly do or learn quick. So issues with this motor on the lines of not starting and water in oil? Thanks for all your help

    #2
    Milky oil is a bad sign.how long did boat sit could be condensation which would be best possible scenario. was oil level over normal dipstick level. did you check your plugs are they wet. is it run in salt water. if you post some more info we can help.

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      #3
      welcome to boc. As jamie said, milky oil is a fairly bad sign, could be a cracked block, bad head gasket, etc, etc. pull the plugs and find out if any are wet, thats where you can start.

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        #4
        Bad starter and milky oil leads me to assume maybe the boat was partially submerged. Did you look inside the old starter? And by the way, did you get a MARINE starter, or a car starter from the regular auto store?

        You may have already learned this, but for others...never buy a boat that you don't drive yourself ON WATER. There's just far too much to go wrong and if a seller won't run it on the water, he's hiding something.

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          #5
          Thanks for the replies. I'm not sure how long it sat before I got it. I was told it was ran last season. So far I have pulled one plug and it'd not wet just realy black so I picked up new plugs and wires. I will be putting them on in the next day or two and will let you know what the other three look like. Is it good if they are not wet? And as far as the starter I did get the one for the car the guy at auto zone said he has done the same with his boats before. Bad or ok? The old starter was rusty and looked full of water when I took it off. This was the same with my trim motor which I had to rebuild and working like new now. I also read a post on here that the wire harness could be the problem on starting. As it looks its corroded I'm gona clean that up also. Thanks guys

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            #6
            Pull All of the plugs &then try the starter again.I'm thinking 1cylinder is full of water & it is hydro-locked.
            Ernie
            1986 3270
            Volvo 305s


            MMSI 338130047
            Lake Michigan

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              #7
              Auto starter=bad, explosion hazard. On a side note I wouldn't buy bicycle parts from AZ.

              These engines are sensitive to tune, check points set the dwell, pull the rest of the plugs and see if any are steam cleaned. Number 4 exhaust ports are prone to erosion and should be checked visually. These engines have closed cooling wich should keep the block and head from freeze damage, the exhaust manifold is raw water cooled and may be cracked internally.

              Post up some pics of your project, we all love boat porn

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                #8
                Ok so pull all plugs and try and start it? What am I looking for when I do this? And the plug I did pull is the first one or the one closest to the front. Not sure which port this is unless I was looking at the book. And I will get the right starter. Didn't know I couldn't cross on that part. Thanks

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                  #9
                  xcountryx wrote:
                  Thanks for the replies. I'm not sure how long it sat before I got it. I was told it was ran last season. So far I have pulled one plug and it'd not wet just realy black so I picked up new plugs and wires. I will be putting them on in the next day or two and will let you know what the other three look like. Is it good if they are not wet? And as far as the starter I did get the one for the car the guy at auto zone said he has done the same with his boats before. Bad or ok? The old starter was rusty and looked full of water when I took it off. This was the same with my trim motor which I had to rebuild and working like new now. I also read a post on here that the wire harness could be the problem on starting. As it looks its corroded I'm gona clean that up also. Thanks guys
                  You will need a marine starter, it is spark arested. If you run a car starter it could cause the boat to explode, your car guy from autozone is an idiot, dont take his advice. Boat engines and car engines have many differences like that you will need to research before swapping in car parts.

                  If you have water in the engine, you need to find out whats going on, new plugs wont fix that. Pull all the plugs, find out which one is wet if any for a start. The motor may indeed be hydro locked, either way milky oil is bad.

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                    #10
                    Ok I have already ordered the new starter on eBay. I planed on putting new plugs and wires in any way. Can I cross over to car parts on these? If so could any one help me a part number for wires? I found the plugs the book calls for but the wires are realy expensive. Any help here? I'm gona go pull all plugs and clean up distributor points and set dwell. I will post what plugs look like. Thanks again

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                      #11
                      xcountryx wrote:
                      Ok I have already ordered the new starter on eBay. I planed on putting new plugs and wires in any way. Can I cross over to car parts on these? If so could any one help me a part number for wires? I found the plugs the book calls for but the wires are realy expensive. Any help here? I'm gona go pull all plugs and clean up distributor points and set dwell. I will post what plugs look like. Thanks again
                      Welcome to boats, they call it Bust Out Another Thousand for a reason Not sure on part numbers, any local dealership should be able to help you, if not there are lots of parts breakdowns online, I dont know any off the top of my head.

                      I think your still getting a bit ahead of yourself, finding out why there is water inside your engine is far more seriouse then relpacing plugs /wires/etc. You could have an internal crack in your block that makes the entire engine toast in the 1st place so dumping money into iginition is pointless. Water in a marine engine oil = [COLOR]"#FF0000" wrote:
                      VERY BAD.[/COLOR]


                      Check those cylinders, see if any have water in them 1st. Get the engine to turn over, then run a compression test to make sure you dont have any issues there. Process of elimination and KISS is your friend.

                      Replacing the tires on a car doesnt make the transmission shift better, if you get my drift.

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                        #12
                        You have to find out where the water came from. You didn't answer if it was in salt water. That is worst than fresh water but all is bad.

                        As said if the starter and other things in the bilge was wet, most likely there has been a lot of water in there. New wires and plugs will not fix this. Before you spend more money find out what the real problem is.

                        You have not told us if all the plugs were dry for example.

                        The starter you have on it now can be used with the bilge open and no smell of gas. The problem with an auto starter is there are sparks but it needs fuel to explode. You can tell that with your nose. Not for one second telling you to use the boat with that starter but you can trouble shoot as long as you have it on now.

                        Bad plugs and/or wires didn't cause this and it won't fix it. You are just wasting your money if the block is cracked for example.

                        Do as was said. Check for water. Do a compression test, and change that oil and get the water out. You cannot cheap your way out of this with external parts. The problem is inside your engine.

                        Doug
                        Started boating 1955
                        Number of boats owned 32
                        Bayliners
                        2655
                        2755
                        2850
                        3870 presently owned
                        Favorite boat. Toss up. 46' Chris Craft, 3870 Bayliner

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                          #13
                          Ok going to pull plugs and I will let you know what I find thanks

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                            #14
                            Oh and I don't think its been in salt water but not 100% on that. I live in Ohio and just taking a guess that its only been in the lakes and rivers here

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                              #15
                              Lusten to ryan and doug dont waste money PULL YOUR PLUGS . do a compression test. sounds like your bilge at one time was up over starter.

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