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    I'm in the process of getting a couple of quotations for a full canvass enclosure on our 4788

    This is the flybridge and the cockpit.

    I've been quoted right at $10K for the job.

    While that seems like allot of money, it is allot of canvas as well.

    Has anybody gotten canvas for a 4788 lately?

    If so what did it cost?

    Thanks

    KEVIN SANDERS
    4788 LISAS WAY - SEWARD ALASKA
    www.transferswitch4less.com

    where are we right now?

    https://maps.findmespot.com/s/36S4

    #2
    That actually sounds like a deal. I spent about 45 minutes with a guy from Rainier Window today, cause I need to replace the front window on the flybridge... Has old strataglass, or whatever it is called and I could not see out of it at night! Had to open her up and freeze all the way back... I'm going to go with partial polycarbonate, perhaps markalon or the Lexan. Markalon AR is awesome. If you get it in .060 thickness, it can be stitched, thicker will need to be bonded. Check out the Rainier stuff, they bond canvas to the Lexan / markalon.

    For my purpose and funds, I'm going to buy raw markalon and bond it myself with marine goop, a flexable epoxy, which is necessary for windshield application. Will cost me about $150 in materials. If I can get 3 years out of mine, I'll be happy.

    Typical cost (per that conversation) is $1k each window, list price. Fabricators have expertise / experience... Amazingly, like information you get here, they give away their secretes / design criteria:

    http://marinefabricatormag.com/

    Rainier has 10 plus years in their bonding process. Ask your fabricator about it, but for sure do some google search and check out Rainier Window and the options that now exist:

    http://www.rainierwindows.com/faqs.html

    http://www.rainierwindows.com/

    I'll post my job in completed projects, but I am upgrading an existing, would not consider my first attempt at the entire project! I'm sure your outcome will be inspiring and awesome.... just like the boat itself that you have!

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      #3
      Hi Kevin

      New to the forum, having just purchased a 1997 4788 in New Zealand in Nov 2011.

      Have read lots of interesting threads and have learnt a lot in the process, so thanks to all.

      Just in the middle of replacing Canvas on top with full Strataglass (Eisenglass) sides and rear cockpit. Was quoted NZD9000 to NZD12000 (USD7200 to USD9400) which seemed reasonable.

      From down under USD10000 seems reasonable, so long as you are getting some top quality clears.

      Cheers

      Allan
      Allan
      '97 4788 - "Romeo IV"
      Auckland, New Zealand

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        #4
        [img]/media/kunena/attachments/vb/643813=23361-IMG-20110926-00198.jpg[/img]

        [img]/media/kunena/attachments/vb/643813=23360-Quispamsis-20110716-00067.jpg[/img] i am sure you could get prices all over the board , but it comes down to quality of materials and workmanship .......i have had my 4387 fly bridge reglassed last year as the canvas was done about 10 years ago (and was in great shape ) by the p o from a guy named '' tops by george'' in virgina beach he did a nice job very tight on the frames and fantastic d windows that all open up .....when i did the re glass last year localy here in canada i had used a product called stratta glass it is mfg . in fortlauderdale florida and looks like real glass when it was all installed .... i seen a lot of canvas work around different boats some good some not so good some canvas jobs are to built to loose and flaps in the wind in fact some wear out very quickly due to this fact and some of boat owners go for the low low price guy and ended up getting plastic windows in my mind that is just a few steps thicker than what your shirts get wraped in from the dry cleaners .good luck kevin i am sure you will get the right shop to do it .
        NEIL S

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          #5
          New enclosure for the flybridge on my 32xx was quoted at 4k.
          1997 3788/Cummins 6BTA 5.9 M2s (Sold)
          2003 Silverton 42c/Cummins 480CEs
          2019 Cobia 240 CC
          2006 Boston Whaler 13 Sport
          1985 3270/Hino 135s (Sold)

          Vero Beach, Fl.

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            #6
            just a thought that you might want to put the boaters discount top on the fly bridge and just wrap with canvas takes the worry of snow load and wind that we have in Alaska Roy SE alaska
            1988 3818
            EH 700
            Custom hard top enclosed

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              #7
              New canvas for a 38' cost me 5,000 last year.

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                #8
                I had all new isinglass on the bridge & cockpit, she re-sewed some zippers & replaced some. Total cost was $706.00, I gave her $800.00 because she made several trips fitting it & did a excellent job. I got a estimate 1st and she came in under it, there is no one else in the area that does that type of work. Only other choice would of been to take the boat to St. Louis, was to late in the year for that it was finished in November.
                Capt. Ron.
                "I will not tiptoe through life to arrive safely at death"
                "Never Trade Luck For Skill"
                1987 3870 - Northern Lights ll
                Hino EH700
                Westerbeke 8.0
                1999 Logic Marine 17' CC/50 Merc.
                on Louisiana pool Mississippi River.

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                  #9
                  ksanders wrote:
                  I'm in the process of getting a couple of quotations for a full canvass enclosure on our 4788

                  This is the flybridge and the cockpit.

                  I've been quoted right at $10K for the job.

                  While that seems like allot of money, it is allot of canvas as well.

                  Has anybody gotten canvas for a 4788 lately?

                  If so what did it cost?

                  Thanks
                  If you received the quote from the canvas shop just outside of Seward (SAM), the worksmanship he does is excellent, He is expensive, but uses only high quality material, and is the only one in the area I know of who can do a great job, look arround the docks you will see a lot of his work.
                  Pat says: DO-IT-RIGHT THE FIRST TIME!

                  Bayliner 3870 "ALASKA33)
                  Twin 350 GM power
                  Located in Seward, AK
                  Retired marine surveyor

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                    #10
                    Thanks very much guys

                    The quote was from ChurchHill Brothers in Anacortes.

                    They were highly recommended by Dianna over at North Harbor Diesel as this job is beyond what NHD is set up to do.

                    I'm probably going to go with the estimate. The glass he's using is strataglass .040 and the fabric is the heaviest sunbrella.

                    It is allot of money, but I think we often get what we pay for, and when it comes to something as labor intensive as this is, what I'm buying is the skill of the person making the enclosure.

                    North Harbor has never steered me wrong yet, and I'm confident that they are very careful who they recommend when they have to outsource something.

                    KEVIN SANDERS
                    4788 LISAS WAY - SEWARD ALASKA
                    www.transferswitch4less.com

                    where are we right now?

                    https://maps.findmespot.com/s/36S4

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                      #11
                      Churchill bros are EXCELLENT!!

                      You will be happy, for years!!

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                        #12
                        ksanders wrote:
                        I'm in the process of getting a couple of quotations for a full canvass enclosure on our 4788

                        This is the flybridge and the cockpit.

                        I've been quoted right at $10K for the job.

                        While that seems like allot of money, it is allot of canvas as well.

                        Has anybody gotten canvas for a 4788 lately?

                        If so what did it cost?

                        Thanks
                        Kevin,

                        I got a quote for my 47 about 5 years ago, 8K that was in the lower 48.

                        Chris

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                          #13
                          I strongly encourage you to consider Stamoid Marine material over canvas. It is great material. It is very strong and will never leak or rot. Read up on it. In Florida it is used heavily on power boats. Just don't use it for any kind of sail cover because it does not breathe.

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                            #14
                            To me for the money - I can't see spending it all in canvas.

                            You are talking the price of a decent used car.

                            It is a consumable and in area with harsh weather the life is going to be fairly short. I would go to a hardtop and then hang eisenglas windows from that. Way fewer ongoing service items and easier to either swing the side panels up than have to take them down from a soft top and stow them when the weather is in your favor. Based on price quoted to me for a rear hardtop of the 38 and the top for a 47 bridge being similar size I would be spending on the more durable cover.

                            The pics at discount boaters center website to me look pretty good on the 47.
                            1999 Sandpiper Pilothouse - Current
                            1989 3888 - 2011-2019, 1985 Contessa - 2005-2011, 1986 21' Trophy 1998-2005
                            Nobody gets out alive.

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                              #15
                              kwb wrote:
                              To me for the money - I can't see spending it all in canvas.

                              You are talking the price of a decent used car.

                              It is a consumable and in area with harsh weather the life is going to be fairly short. I would go to a hardtop and then hang eisenglas windows from that. Way fewer ongoing service items and easier to either swing the side panels up than have to take them down from a soft top and stow them when the weather is in your favor. Based on price quoted to me for a rear hardtop of the 38 and the top for a 47 bridge being similar size I would be spending on the more durable cover.

                              The pics at discount boaters center website to me look pretty good on the 47.
                              Well I have to say that I am at least curious as to the cost. I e-mailed them and will let you know what the quote comes out to.

                              I like the hard top idea because although I envision taking down the canvass on a sunny day, that will just not happen. If its that sunny and warm we'll go sit out on the foredeck.

                              I am a little suspicious that the hard top will drive up the price of this project dramatically. Thats because thinking about it, the flybridge top canvass is a pretty small portion of the total job. The bimini frame is there already. The real work is in all that glass.

                              I also have a very real snow loading concern. It snows allot in Alaska. I have to pay a boat watch company to keep the boat clear of snow. The flybridge canvass all comes off for the winter. This makes shoveling easier. I'll have to ask about that.

                              Another issue is if we cruise the boat to a warmer climate. That is a very real possibility. Sitting up on a totaly open flybridge might be very nice.

                              Thanks for the input, and the idea. We'll see how it turns out.

                              KEVIN SANDERS
                              4788 LISAS WAY - SEWARD ALASKA
                              www.transferswitch4less.com

                              where are we right now?

                              https://maps.findmespot.com/s/36S4

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