Anchor Snubbers-gctid827845

[Woodsea]

I am unable to get the attached snubber to work consistently. I set it up per instructions and it falls out in the middle of the night. I'm typically anchoring in 10-20' of water with a 5:1 scope. I set it up so the "loop" hangs what seems appropriate and it seems to fit the chain. 30 mph wind or no wind same results. What am I doing wrong?

What do you all use for snubbers?

[Machog]

I use a simple Clevis grab hook. It's never fallen out, put it on and run it down to the water



Takes the weight off the bow pulpit and supposed to give you equivalent to letting more rode out.

Machog

[NeilW]

"Woodsea" post=827845 wrote:
I am unable to get the attached snubber to work consistently. I set it up per instructions and it falls out in the middle of the night. I'm typically anchoring in 10-20' of water with a 5:1 scope. I set it up so the "loop" hangs what seems appropriate and it seems to fit the chain. 30 mph wind or no wind same results. What am I doing wrong?

What do you all use for snubbers?

Feed me drinks and I'll come over and show you how to set with a proper snubber. Damned noobs

[Woodsea]

Neil,

You got a deal! I'm here for a couple of weeks. Do you finally have a dinghy that runs?

Steve

[mmichellich]

"Woodsea" post=827845 wrote:
I am unable to get the attached snubber to work consistently. I set it up per instructions and it falls out in the middle of the night. I'm typically anchoring in 10-20' of water with a 5:1 scope. I set it up so the "loop" hangs what seems appropriate and it seems to fit the chain. 30 mph wind or no wind same results. What am I doing wrong?

What do you all use for snubbers?

Are you expecting a big blow with 5 to 1 scope, assuming an all chain rode, that seems excessive to me unless you have a light wimpy anchor.

[bcarli1111]

I use a length of rope and tie either a rolling hitch or an anchor bend to the chain.... neither will work loose . I don't like hooks....

[Oakland4788]

Hey, I am interested to watch Neil's lesson and suck up some of his/ your drinks. Let me know when?

[Woodsea]

Not expecting a big blow but some of the anchorages are an open rodestead which are fairly uncrowded. There are also 180* reversing currents and the 5:1 seems to reset well. The holding ground is great here in the SF Bay. I've got a 80# Manson Supreme and all chain G4 5/16" rode. Our tidal range is about 6-8 feet.

So I pull into an anchorage with a charted 10' mlw depth. My depth sounder says 14' I figure I'm at about mid tide. If I add about 5' for the bow off the water, I put out about 80' then rig up my snubber and let out another 15-20' so my total rode is about 100. I don't see why this should be a problem with the snubber staying engaged? I've anchored with a similar setup on sailboats in the Caribbean and Bahamas maybe 50x no problem. I've only anchored our boat maybe 25x and the snubber becomes unengaged. What am I missing?

[Norton_Rider]

I've had good luck with a standard chain hook and a length of 5/8" line. It has never come loose. As you can see from the photo I have it set up to grab the chain slightly underwater. This provides a more horizontal pull on the chain and allows for a bit less scope. I also let out enough chain so it is loose between the anchor roller and the snubber hook. This way the load is carried by the snubber. A side benefit is that there's no noise from the chain on the roller transmitted to the boat.

[redskyjoe]

"Woodsea" post=827933 wrote:
Not expecting a big blow but some of the anchorages are an open rodestead which are fairly uncrowded. There are also 180* reversing currents and the 5:1 seems to reset well. The holding ground is great here in the SF Bay. I've got a 80# Manson Supreme and all chain G4 5/16" rode. Our tidal range is about 6-8 feet.

So I pull into an anchorage with a charted 10' mlw depth. My depth sounder says 14' I figure I'm at about mid tide. If I add about 5' for the bow off the water, I put out about 80' then rig up my snubber and let out another 15-20' so my total rode is about 100. I don't see why this should be a problem with the snubber staying engaged? I've anchored with a similar setup on sailboats in the Caribbean and Bahamas maybe 50x no problem. I've only anchored our boat maybe 25x and the snubber becomes unengaged. What am I missing?

So, is you snubber legs 15-20' long each? Am I understanding this correct? If so, at low tide, and when the tide reverses, you snubber chain grabber may be resting on the bottom and this is when the grabber releases from the chain link. This is all I can think of that would cause the chain grabber to come free. Do you have the same problem anchoring in deeper water?

[brad4550]

"Norton Rider" post=827979 wrote:
I've had good luck with a standard chain hook and a length of 5/8" line. It has never come loose. As you can see from the photo I have it set up to grab the chain slightly underwater. This provides a more horizontal pull on the chain and allows for a bit less scope. I also let out enough chain so it is loose between the anchor roller and the snubber hook. This way the load is carried by the snubber. A side benefit is that there's no noise from the chain on the roller transmitted to the boat.

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I use the same set -up you have,however I stop my chain hook just above the water and if the chain finds a rock I hear about it, so if I lower it deeper into the water I wont?? Thanks Brad

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[Pcpete]

A little help here from one who has been barred from anchoring for years. Something about cold water showers on the previous boat.

In looking at the pictures the snubbers appear to be more for lowering the angle of the dangle than as a shock reliever. Am I looking at that correctly?

[Norton_Rider]

"Pcpete" post=828011 wrote:
A little help here from one who has been barred from anchoring for years. Something about cold water showers on the previous boat.

In looking at the pictures the snubbers appear to be more for lowering the angle of the dangle than as a shock reliever. Am I looking at that correctly?

It's both. I've been anchored in gusty wind and waves and watched the snubber lines (3-strand 5/8" nylon) stretch and contract. If I had not had a snubber the jerk on the chain would have been stronger and higher up.

[Mr._Darcy]

. If I had not had a snubber the jerk on the chain would have been stronger and higher up.[/quote]

How tall and muscular is this 'jerk' on the chain? :P

Greg

[Norton_Rider]

"Mr. Darcy" post=828023 wrote:
. If I had not had a snubber the jerk on the chain would have been stronger and higher up.

How tall and muscular is this 'jerk' on the chain? :P

Greg[/quote]

It's a jerk that understands physics: derivative of acceleration with respect to time