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    I am unable to get the attached snubber to work consistently. I set it up per instructions and it falls out in the middle of the night. I'm typically anchoring in 10-20' of water with a 5:1 scope. I set it up so the "loop" hangs what seems appropriate and it seems to fit the chain. 30 mph wind or no wind same results. What am I doing wrong?

    What do you all use for snubbers?
    2000 4788 w Cummins 370's, underhulls, swim step hull extension
    12' Rendova center console with 40HP Yamaha
    MV Kia Orana
    Currently Enjoying the PNW

    #2
    I use a simple Clevis grab hook. It's never fallen out, put it on and run it down to the water



    Takes the weight off the bow pulpit and supposed to give you equivalent to letting more rode out.

    Machog
    1996 4087 Lazy Days
    2011 11’ West Marine Rib 350 Lazy Mac
    2011 Porsche Cayman
    2010 Lexus IS 250C
    2008 Honda Ridgeline

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      #3
      "Woodsea" post=827845 wrote:
      I am unable to get the attached snubber to work consistently. I set it up per instructions and it falls out in the middle of the night. I'm typically anchoring in 10-20' of water with a 5:1 scope. I set it up so the "loop" hangs what seems appropriate and it seems to fit the chain. 30 mph wind or no wind same results. What am I doing wrong?

      What do you all use for snubbers?
      Feed me drinks and I'll come over and show you how to set with a proper snubber. Damned noobs
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      2002 Carver Voyager 57
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      3988 250 Hinos
      "The Dark Side"
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        #4
        Neil,

        You got a deal! I'm here for a couple of weeks. Do you finally have a dinghy that runs?

        Steve
        2000 4788 w Cummins 370's, underhulls, swim step hull extension
        12' Rendova center console with 40HP Yamaha
        MV Kia Orana
        Currently Enjoying the PNW

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          #5
          "Woodsea" post=827845 wrote:
          I am unable to get the attached snubber to work consistently. I set it up per instructions and it falls out in the middle of the night. I'm typically anchoring in 10-20' of water with a 5:1 scope. I set it up so the "loop" hangs what seems appropriate and it seems to fit the chain. 30 mph wind or no wind same results. What am I doing wrong?

          What do you all use for snubbers?
          Are you expecting a big blow with 5 to 1 scope, assuming an all chain rode, that seems excessive to me unless you have a light wimpy anchor.
          Started boating 1965
          Bayliners owned: 26 Victoria, 28 Bounty, 32, 38, and 47 since 1996

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            #6
            I use a length of rope and tie either a rolling hitch or an anchor bend to the chain.... neither will work loose . I don't like hooks....

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              #7
              Hey, I am interested to watch Neil's lesson and suck up some of his/ your drinks. Let me know when?
              2001 Bayliner 4788, Cummins 370's
              Zodiac Yachtline 380, Yamaha 25hp
              Sanger wakeboard boat
              volunteer CA Delta tour guide

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                #8
                Not expecting a big blow but some of the anchorages are an open rodestead which are fairly uncrowded. There are also 180* reversing currents and the 5:1 seems to reset well. The holding ground is great here in the SF Bay. I've got a 80# Manson Supreme and all chain G4 5/16" rode. Our tidal range is about 6-8 feet.

                So I pull into an anchorage with a charted 10' mlw depth. My depth sounder says 14' I figure I'm at about mid tide. If I add about 5' for the bow off the water, I put out about 80' then rig up my snubber and let out another 15-20' so my total rode is about 100. I don't see why this should be a problem with the snubber staying engaged? I've anchored with a similar setup on sailboats in the Caribbean and Bahamas maybe 50x no problem. I've only anchored our boat maybe 25x and the snubber becomes unengaged. What am I missing?
                2000 4788 w Cummins 370's, underhulls, swim step hull extension
                12' Rendova center console with 40HP Yamaha
                MV Kia Orana
                Currently Enjoying the PNW

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                  #9
                  I've had good luck with a standard chain hook and a length of 5/8" line. It has never come loose. As you can see from the photo I have it set up to grab the chain slightly underwater. This provides a more horizontal pull on the chain and allows for a bit less scope. I also let out enough chain so it is loose between the anchor roller and the snubber hook. This way the load is carried by the snubber. A side benefit is that there's no noise from the chain on the roller transmitted to the boat.


                  1999 3788, Cummins 270 "Freedom"
                  2013 Boston Whaler 130 SS
                  Anacortes, WA
                  Isla Verde, PR

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                    #10
                    "Woodsea" post=827933 wrote:
                    Not expecting a big blow but some of the anchorages are an open rodestead which are fairly uncrowded. There are also 180* reversing currents and the 5:1 seems to reset well. The holding ground is great here in the SF Bay. I've got a 80# Manson Supreme and all chain G4 5/16" rode. Our tidal range is about 6-8 feet.

                    So I pull into an anchorage with a charted 10' mlw depth. My depth sounder says 14' I figure I'm at about mid tide. If I add about 5' for the bow off the water, I put out about 80' then rig up my snubber and let out another 15-20' so my total rode is about 100. I don't see why this should be a problem with the snubber staying engaged? I've anchored with a similar setup on sailboats in the Caribbean and Bahamas maybe 50x no problem. I've only anchored our boat maybe 25x and the snubber becomes unengaged. What am I missing?
                    So, is you snubber legs 15-20' long each? Am I understanding this correct? If so, at low tide, and when the tide reverses, you snubber chain grabber may be resting on the bottom and this is when the grabber releases from the chain link. This is all I can think of that would cause the chain grabber to come free. Do you have the same problem anchoring in deeper water?

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                      #11
                      "Norton Rider" post=827979 wrote:
                      I've had good luck with a standard chain hook and a length of 5/8" line. It has never come loose. As you can see from the photo I have it set up to grab the chain slightly underwater. This provides a more horizontal pull on the chain and allows for a bit less scope. I also let out enough chain so it is loose between the anchor roller and the snubber hook. This way the load is carried by the snubber. A side benefit is that there's no noise from the chain on the roller transmitted to the boat.

                      [attachment]42108 wrote:
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                      I use the same set -up you have,however I stop my chain hook just above the water and if the chain finds a rock I hear about it, so if I lower it deeper into the water I wont?? Thanks Brad

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                      Brad & Sharon
                      Lady Jake
                      1985 4550 EH 700TI /Twin Disc 502
                      Anacortes/La Conner, Wa.

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                        #12
                        A little help here from one who has been barred from anchoring for years. Something about cold water showers on the previous boat.

                        In looking at the pictures the snubbers appear to be more for lowering the angle of the dangle than as a shock reliever. Am I looking at that correctly?
                        P/C Pete
                        Edmonds Yacht Club (Commodore 1993)
                        1988 3818 "GLAUBEN”
                        Hino EH700 175 Onan MDKD Genset
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                          #13
                          "Pcpete" post=828011 wrote:
                          A little help here from one who has been barred from anchoring for years. Something about cold water showers on the previous boat.

                          In looking at the pictures the snubbers appear to be more for lowering the angle of the dangle than as a shock reliever. Am I looking at that correctly?
                          It's both. I've been anchored in gusty wind and waves and watched the snubber lines (3-strand 5/8" nylon) stretch and contract. If I had not had a snubber the jerk on the chain would have been stronger and higher up.
                          1999 3788, Cummins 270 "Freedom"
                          2013 Boston Whaler 130 SS
                          Anacortes, WA
                          Isla Verde, PR

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                            #14
                            . If I had not had a snubber the jerk on the chain would have been stronger and higher up.[/quote]

                            How tall and muscular is this 'jerk' on the chain? :P

                            Greg
                            Newport, Oregon
                            South Beach Marina
                            1986 3270 with twin 110 HP Hino diesels. Name of boat "Mr. Darcy"
                            Past work history: Prototyping, tooling, and repair for Reinell,. General fiberglass boat repair starting in 1976.
                            Also worked as heavy equipment mechanic, and machinery mechanic for over 30 years.

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                              #15
                              "Mr. Darcy" post=828023 wrote:
                              . If I had not had a snubber the jerk on the chain would have been stronger and higher up.
                              How tall and muscular is this 'jerk' on the chain? :P

                              Greg[/quote]

                              It's a jerk that understands physics: derivative of acceleration with respect to time
                              1999 3788, Cummins 270 "Freedom"
                              2013 Boston Whaler 130 SS
                              Anacortes, WA
                              Isla Verde, PR

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