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    After installing electronic ignitions on my two US Marine 305's I changed out the plugs with NGK which required a .031 gap.

    I'd like to try a resistor type plug which a wider gap.

    The engines start well, run well at all rpm's ,the timing is on , the carbs are on but the exhaust has a rich gas smell to it.

    I was hoping a wider gap might clean that up a little. better.

    Does either AC Delco or Champion require a .040 gap?
    Dan
    Frostbite Falls, Minnesota
    Claudia V. III
    1988 - 3218
    Gas Drives

    #2
    Gap is gap. That's set by the engine manufacturers. Fwiw, I used E3 plugs in my 4.3's. I found that I had a slightly lower throttle setting and they wintered over better. They don't have a direct marine application and were surprised when I asked, telling them that I had been using them for several yevars. The only thing they could recommend is to keep doing what's working. I don't remember what number I used, but it was equivalent to the ngk callout.
    P/C Pete
    Edmonds Yacht Club (Commodore 1993)
    1988 3818 "GLAUBEN”
    Hino EH700 175 Onan MDKD Genset
    MMSI 367770440

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      #3
      I read that before on the recommendation from the engine manufacturer. I don't have the manual and cant find the engine tag. Would anyone know what it is for a US Marine 305?
      Dan
      Frostbite Falls, Minnesota
      Claudia V. III
      1988 - 3218
      Gas Drives

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        #4
        Gap is gap based on the plug itself. Delco or Motorcraft platinum is where I go. Since you changed ignition, it is possible the coil isn't as strong as before. And if you truly are overfueling then adjust the carb. To me all inboard gassers smell overfueled, but I think it's comparing to new catalyzed cars. Smell a cars exhaust from the 60's and they smell the same. If there is no sheen on the water then you should be fine.
        1985 3870 175hp Hino's

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          #5
          http://www.accessngk.com/part_finder...d=1531&type=gp
          P/C Pete
          Edmonds Yacht Club (Commodore 1993)
          1988 3818 "GLAUBEN”
          Hino EH700 175 Onan MDKD Genset
          MMSI 367770440

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            #6
            Your absolutely right. Being from a older generation the first thing I thought of was what cars smelled like thirty / forty years ago with no pollution devices. I've had a few folks on board that have commented on the richness of the exhaust. My sister sat on back for a three hour cruise with a beach towel over her face to filter out exhaust. I just got pulled out yesterday and I'm changing out to lifting pot mufflers hopefully improve the exhaust problem. The old style mufflers are very loud and that is a problem of its own. I think the baffles may be gone and was thinking maybe the cooling water is running on the bottom of the muffler and the exhaust fumes are passing over the top.

            The new ignition systems came with a new coil pack.
            Dan
            Frostbite Falls, Minnesota
            Claudia V. III
            1988 - 3218
            Gas Drives

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              #7
              the plug gap could possibly be opened a slight bit more, but to some small extent, the heat range of the plug is what needs to be changed to cause a richer or leaner burn.

              but if the carbs are just allowing too much fuel in, the plug heat range will make no noticeable difference.

              at what rpm and boat speed do you notice the smell worse?..... do you have twins?..... is it a dry or wet exhaust system?...

              on a marine engine, its a fine line between too rich and too lean... one causes smell and a higher risk of CO poisoning, where the other causes severe engine damage. its very rare that a carbed engines runs close to that fine line at all engine speeds.

              then one needs to look at where the exhaust exits the hull, because above the waterline exhaust will have a much higher tendency to be sucked up and over the transom and into the cockpit as the boat moves thru the water. and has already been said, even a proper running carbed engine will smell rich at times...

              lastly, you say the carbs are working correctly... but are you basing this opinion on the performance of the boat?.... a carb that has a problem that allows too much fuel in to the power circuit, may seem like its operating properly, but the fact that it is passing too much fuel thru it proves that its performance could be improved. you could have a loose jet, or a piece of debris that is causing the spray pattern to be interrupted, the carb could be worn out, or maybe the jets are too big for the best performance from that carb....

              there are a number of things that should be studied that have a greater impact on the rich exhaust rather than the spark plugs...


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                #8
                All things I will note for next springs launch. The richness seems to be from start to stop. no power or full power. Both carbs were rebuilt 2 years ago.

                Thanks
                Dan
                Frostbite Falls, Minnesota
                Claudia V. III
                1988 - 3218
                Gas Drives

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