Raytheon/Raymarine electronics-gctid347754

[Guest]

My 2000 4788 has a complete package of Raymarine electronics( depth,echo sounder, radar , gps,chart, autopilot, ). The manual specifies battery replacement for the internal memory batteries at roughly 5 yr intervals. I am certain the PO did not have this work done. I have owned the boat for 2 years. I have not been able to find a technican who can do the work. 2 marinas , 1 in Detroit/Toledo area & another in Petoskey/Charlevoix, Mi said the whole unit must go back to the factory( Raymarine is in Maine or Mass.

Has anyone found a solution? Ideally I would like to do the work aboard or at least not require shipping 2 ways a thousand miles away. The boat is permanetly in Petoskey , Mi.

[Guest]

Have you called Raymarine Tech support?

Just an idea....

[kwb]

Now I am a far cry from someone that RTFM but apparently you do - good for you.

If I was having problem and either getting a warning on the unit or memory is lost I would remove unit, pull the screws from the case and open it up.

Then carefully look at the boards inside for a watch like battery somewhere, get the number from it and go shopping.

[MerlinV]

I suggest you go to the Raymarine website where they have a knowledge base of frequently asked questions with factory responses.

If your question is not addressed there, you will be able to let them know your precise situation, and the usual time for their response is 24 hours. In my experience, they are good at what they do.

They also have a full listing of service dealers on the website.

All that said, we have had Raymarine systems on our last two boats (radar, chart plotter, autopilot and sounder), and have so far never had to get involved with any internal battery changing. The one thing that Raymarine admit to, is the less than perfect performance of the Ray120 GPS antenna, which is susceptible to interference from nearby power or coaxial cables (in the arch cable runs). They recommend that these issues can be avoided by upgrading to the Ray125 unit.

[Guest]

Save the battery cost. Toss the MY 2000 electronics and get some new stuff.

The 2000 electronics were outdated back in 2000. The new stuff is worth the upgrade.

The batteries may be sourced on-line w/ a distributor like Digi-key or by selecing one of the battery pack manufacturers. There is no need to buy these replacement parts from Raymarine. They probably are not interested in selling these replacement parts direct, instead preferring to perform the swap as part of a repair operation.

[Guest]

I agree with Wingless. These electronics were old style when they were installed in 2000. I had the same thing on a SeaRay 390 in 1995. But the stuff works(slowly). I supplement it with a Garmin 640 marine and land, that I can use at either station. The idea of spending 3000-5000 on new or newer electronics for the 5month Great Lakes season is not appealing.

[kwb]

I love this forum - if it wasn't updated in the last 18mos then it isn't worth a bit of troubleshooting.

Now I freely admit that plotters have come a very long way in the past decade but depending on how the owner uses the boat having the super mo ditty everything does not always make sense. With the way marine electronics have gone with MFD's I think there are a lot of merits to not upgrading in a lot of cases and keeping fully seperate systems.

He asked about battery replacement....

[Guest]

kwb wrote:
I love this forum - if it wasn't updated in the last 18mos then it isn't worth a bit of troubleshooting.

He asked about battery replacement....

He got http://www.baylinerownersclub.org/fo...e: <br /> both the requested and the useful information.

[dmcb]

Older equipment will work just fine if the owner knows how to use them.

The newest and latest won't if the owner doesn't know how to use them.

Lately I have heard of more getting in trouble with the newest and latest than the old stuff.

And I mean the big boys.

Personally KISS works for me.

Doug

[Guest]

jjlynch wrote:
My 2000 4788 has a complete package of Raymarine electronics( depth,echo sounder, radar , gps,chart, autopilot, ). The manual specifies battery replacement for the internal memory batteries at roughly 5 yr intervals.

I agree with those who support replacing the batteries. If you are otherwise getting all that you need from the nav equipment, replacing it for the sake of a dead battery makes little sense.

It would help if you were more specific than the fact that your boat is a year 2000. And not all the devices in your nav suite will have batteries. What specific model numbers do you have, that have internal batteries?

[Guest]

dmcb wrote:
Older equipment will work just fine if the owner knows how to use them.

That is true. My boat was built with the Ratheon R80 CRT green plotter w/ a 4KW open array.

It worked fine, but I've been suffering CSS and the larger E120 is very helpful for that condition.

The very strong point for the old R80 plotter is that it kicked butt for night operation. That CRT set at low intensity is WAY better than any LCD at night.

[Guest]

Wiskey wizard: the electronics are: V850 Echosounder(takes lithium, seepg109 of manual)

R-21 Radar display (lithium BT1, pg.5-8 of manual)

Chart 611XX(Ni-Cad battery, pg 4-5 of manual)

GPS Antenna 112P ( lithium,pg2 manual)

MY PROBLEM IS I CAN NOT GET ANYONE TO DO THE WORK. ALL WANT TO PULL ALL THE UNITS AND SHIP TO RAYMARINE, I WOULD PREFER NOT TO .

thanks all for your interest & information

[Guest]

jjlynch wrote:
Whisky wizard: the electronics are: V850 Echosounder(takes lithium, seepg109 of manual)

R-21 Radar display (lithium BT1, pg.5-8 of manual)

Chart 611XX(Ni-Cad battery, pg 4-5 of manual)

GPS Antenna 112P ( lithium,pg2 manual)

MY PROBLEM IS I CAN NOT GET ANYONE TO DO THE WORK. ALL WANT TO PULL ALL THE UNITS AND SHIP TO RAYMARINE, I WOULD PREFER NOT TO .

thanks all for your interest & information

I skimmed through the manuals. When you look at the troubleshooting section, Raytheon doesn't mention any problems that are attributable to the lithium battery packs. So they obviously do exist, they help the device retain some data to shorten start up time, but they don't seem to be mandatory. Have you considered leaving them as is (dead or dying)?

[Guest]

It would be confusing the issue to conclude the lithium batteries exist to shorten start-up time.

The lithium batteries are used for providing power to memory for when the devices are disconnected from 12V. The memory is used for things like storing: factory calibration; user calibration; user data and user selections.

It is very easy to determine if a battery is degraded beyond useful life. Observe the on / off operation with power applied to the unit. For example, with power applied to the electronics, turn the V850 on and off. Observe the user settings that are retained, like the display mode or the event key. Then turn off the unit and then disconnect the 12V power. Let the unpowered unit sit for an extended time, like an hour or a day, apply power and turn on. Observe if user settings that had been preserved are now lost. If so, then that battery is failed. Repeat for each of the devices.

The typical life for a lithium battery is five to seven years, so they are probably all shot.

An electronic technician could swap the batteries, or Raymarine will do that service. The Raymarine service is top notch. I have used them for some repairs and found the costs to be reasonable and the quality of service to be perfect. (It would be hard for me to justify ~$100+ charge for a battery swap. I would do it myself.)

[Guest]

This thread may be of interest to you:

http://www.baylinerownersclub.org/forum/showthread.php?65860-Maintaining-Vintage-Electronics&highlight=jacob