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  • MacPhid
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    Thanks for posting the additional pictures Pete! I'm looking forward to the write up when you get it completed. Love to see pictures of the new furniture arrangement as well.🙂

    James

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  • Pcpete
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    Jim, I plan to do a full narrative when I finally complete the job. I’m reworking the command bridge rails since I’ve now replaced most of the furniture up there. I took the L out of the starboard couch for better access to the extended hardtop but that creates a hazard with no rail around the sides and back. Here’s a few more shots I no particular order.

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  • MacPhid
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    Pete,
    Thanks for the photo's and detailed write up. It's another project on my list and the pictures really help to visualize what you've done.
    Do you have any photo's of the changes on the flyvbridge end?

    James

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  • Pcpete
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    One of the first modifications I did was the ladder. The trick was to not interfere with the port hatch and not have the ladder take up most of the cockpit. The factory installation had the rails at 88 degrees and the treads were canted down five degrees front to back. I bought twenty feet of 7/8” 316 stainless and eight feet of 3/4” 316 stainless. In a nutshell, I removed the screws in the fittings for the hand rail that starts about three feet off the deck and loops over the top to mount to the teak pad on the command bridge. The step rise is about eleven inches, so I set a jack stand under the bottom step for support then moved the ladder assembly aft at the bottom until the pitch was the same as a step ladder. Around 68 degrees. Next I began cutting and bending the 7/8” tube to meet the additional distance the ladder was from the bulkhead, about 14”. I used a Harbor Freight tube and pipe bender and was able to bend and nudge the tubing into a comfortable fit. On the cockpit deck and bulkhead I used the original mounting points and fittings. On the command bridge teak pad I moved the fittings forward about two inches and the side supports moved aft a few inches. Then I made filler sections to tie the furniture rails into the ladder structure. At each joint I used a section of 3/4” inside the 7/8” as a doubler. Moving on, I made a couple of L shaped tubes and cut one leg so the top of the tread would be the same heights as the ladder rise, about eleven inches. I used some stainless canvas fittings to connect the L pieces to the ladder rack with removable pins, then added som stabilizing tube, fittings and an eleven inch deep ironwood tread. The teak treads were replaced with 4/4 8” (7” actual) Click image for larger version

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ID:	562473 nominal ironwood and the treads are now canted five degrees higher at the back than the front. Click image for larger version

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  • Sunbird
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    sfladgard ,
    This forum is very active for the 38xx vessels. If you decide to build a prototype and come up with a cost I think you will find that many people will be interested. The more orders the better price could be offered. Please keep us updated.

    Thanks- Mike

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  • mike 3888
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    know this is an old post but what ever came of the fab shop and stair mod for the 3888?
    Thanks for any info.
    Mike and the Admiral karen

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  • mike 3888
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    All I have a 3888 and yes the climb it fairly straight up to the upper helm, ok now but who knows in 10 years. Some of the links to the posts I cant get to work? Anyone got a consolidated link to how to make these steps/stairs for the 3888's
    Thanks MUCH Mike and the admiral Karen

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  • Pcpete
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    Where are you opening the shop? There are a bunch of 38xx’s that have the same vertical angle. About 2000 of them were built and if attrition reduced that by about 25% as a wild guess that’s still a good size market for what might be the same parts as the 39.

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  • Uncle_Bob
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    They made them for 7 years so even if 50 a year that isn't a huge market for replacing the ladder. I'm no kid but have no issues going up and down the ladder.

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  • sfladgard
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    We are opening a fab shop for stainless and aluminum. Will be addressing my 3988 ladder and will make patterns/drawing. Any idea how many 3988s were made?

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  • Bay39
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  • yachtman
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  • C&H Dahl
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    I was wondering if you could repost the image, I cannot see how you altered your ladder

  • Woodsea
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    Dan Byrd, formally with Banana Belt Boats, now with Fairhaven Yacht Sales in La Conner, has a 3988. He modified his existing ladder using wider treads and changing the mounting of the treads to create a less steep angle. It seemed like a nice mod. He's a great guy and I'm sure he would share his knowledge with you.

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  • Guest's Avatar
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    I've been looking to replace my ladder since I bought my 3988 also. No luck finding a supplier yet. I found this old thread on BOC and the fiberglass staircase at the bottom of the thread is exactly what I would like have. I messaged jim bigrigg and am hoping for a response soon. My dad can't make the ladder climb as easy as he used to!

    http://baylinerownersclub.org/index....-a-3988#143562

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