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    Throttle and gear shifters in cockpit?-gctid385920

    Hi all,

    I've been lurking here for a while and think I'm getting closer to pulling the trigger on a 32xx. I live in Washington and want a boat for fishing and entertaining and able to accomodate two cruising couples in comfort. I think I've found it in the 32xx. Funny they don't call this a sportfisher as it duplicates many sportfishers but with a better interior layout.

    My question is this. I fish a lot by myself as I get a lot of odd days off. I need to be able to take the engine(s) out of gear to play and land a fish while trolling. I am a mechanic by trade but don't know anything about big boats. Can you tie in another mechanically/cable controlled shifter and throttle? I don't know how they work with one set at the lower helm and the other at the upper helm. Steering will be controlled through a remotely controlled autopilot either on whatever boat I buy or added shortly after.

    Thank you all. This is a great site.

    Rob

    #2
    I've seen cockpit controls on a 4588, but that less than helpful observation is all I can offer. You are in the right place for help, someone will chime in.

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      #3
      Anything can be done. You will need some cash but I do not think its needed. I do a lot of solo fishing here in SoCal, much of it slow trolling for tuna and such. It takes but a second to place the engines in neutral from the lower helm during a strike.
      1997 3788/Cummins 6BTA 5.9 M2s (Sold)
      2003 Silverton 42c/Cummins 480CEs
      2019 Cobia 240 CC
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        #4
        I have not seen a three station boat with mechanical controls. Might be doable, but the added friction would I think would make this setup very stiff. Not even sure if this option in available in mechanical controls. My last 4588 had electronic controls (failed twice) and a third station out back. With a remote on the auto helm we loved this setup. And did not miss full steering back there. Be interested to hear what you and forum comes up with.

        Good luck

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          #5
          pika steve wrote:
          I have not seen a three station boat with mechanical controls. Might be doable, but the added friction would I think would make this setup very stiff. Not even sure if this option in available in mechanical controls. My last 4588 had electronic controls (failed twice) and a third station out back. With a remote on the auto helm we loved this setup. And did not miss full steering back there. Be interested to hear what you and forum comes up with.

          Good luck
          Hydraulic controls could work I suppose. This shows throttle only, but you get the idea. The second link shows electronic style actuators for the shift. I wonder if a trolling motor setup with foot controls would be easier? This thread shows an outboard on a 32xx. http://www.baylinerownersclub.org/fo...th-Hinos/page2

          http://www.go2marine.com/docs/8/1/2/8/81285F-mi7.shtml

          http://teleflex.ru/upload/files/catalog/esdu/i6000.pdf

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            #6
            Well thank you all for the replies. Working on a commercial crabber, I've seen the electrical remote engine controls fail one more than one occasion leading to a lot of extra work fishing. I think I'd only be interested in mechanical controls. Is there a way to tie a third set in to the other two mechanical controls already on the boat or is two sets max?

            I have considered removing my 10 hp 4st Merc when I sell my current boat to put on whatever I get. It's a tiller though with an extra long shaft, I'd have to convert it to remote controls.

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              #7
              Yeah, not a clue. I'd probably go the outboard route, but I get my fish at Costco. Don't listen to me.

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                #8
                I know I am late to the party here but here are my 2 cents. What about moving the lower helm controls back to the cockpit. Where I boat (California)you almost never drive from the lower helm. Having lived in Washington most of my life I know the weather is less than ideal most of the year but it is also pretty mild (not freezing or real hot) most all year just wet and that is what a canvas enclosure is for.
                Bruce
                1989 4550 MoneyTaker III
                "It is not the size of your boat it is how often you use it"

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                  #9
                  On my 28' Tollycraft, I extended the hull/deck 7 ft for commercial fishing, I had a FB and lower helm, they were tied together at the lower helm, I added a set of controls mid deck to port, I only needed to connect the cable to the existing shift lever and throttle, 2 connections on each, was not hard shifting, I also had steering since it was HYD. HYD is easy, worked great while commercil fishing-chartering and trolling for salmon and docking.
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                    #10
                    brmoney wrote:
                    I know I am late to the party here but here are my 2 cents. What about moving the lower helm controls back to the cockpit. Where I boat (California)you almost never drive from the lower helm. Having lived in Washington most of my life I know the weather is less than ideal most of the year but it is also pretty mild (not freezing or real hot) most all year just wet and that is what a canvas enclosure is for.
                    This is the smartest answer ever. Why didn't I think of this years ago.:goo- I have owned my 32 since new and you can count on one hand the number of times that I have driven the boat from the lower helm There has been a chest frezer in the salon where the helm chair used to set for 11 years! That would also be great for backing into a slip since I can't see the corners of my boat

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                      #11
                      wait...wait....trolling motor !

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                        #12
                        Whether you now have dual stations or a single station, if these are twin lever controls......, it can be done.

                        The cables may make home runs, or they may be piggy backed from one control to the other......, but there will generally be an open and unused cable lever arm to attach an addition cable to.

                        This may create a tad bit more resistance, but if the cables and throttle/shift units are in good condition, doubt you'll notice it.

                        This is a piggy-back arrangement with only cable going to the engine and/or transmission.

                        The third controller would be to the far left and would be interfaced via the cable shown as a heavy red line.

                        Edit: You may also want to give yourself a means of start-up and shut-down from this location.... just to play it safe.

                        Attached files [img]/media/kunena/attachments/vb/723389=32085-Morse throttle shift unit cut a way view third station.jpg[/img]
                        Rick E. Gresham, Oregon
                        2850 Bounty Sedan Flybridge model
                        Twin 280 HP 5.7's w/ Closed Cooling
                        Volvo Penta DuoProp Drives
                        Kohler 4 CZ Gen Set

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                          #13
                          2850Bounty wrote:
                          Whether you now have dual stations or a single station, if these are twin lever controls......, it can be done.

                          The cables may make home runs, or they may be piggy backed from one control to the other......, but there will generally be an open and unused cable lever arm to attach an addition cable to.

                          This may create a tad bit more resistance, but if the cables and throttle/shift units are in good condition, doubt you'll notice it.

                          This is a piggy-back arrangement with only cable going to the engine and/or transmission.

                          The third controller would be to the far left and would be interfaced via the cable shown as a heavy red line.

                          Edit: You may also want to give yourself a means of start-up and shut-down from this location.... just to play it safe.
                          That is not the way it is currently set up in a 32. Their are 4 cables that go to a box in and 2 out for both shift and throttle

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                            #14
                            billsguns wrote:
                            That is not the way it is currently set up in a 32. Their are 4 cables that go to a box in and 2 out for both shift and throttle
                            Well, that's why I prefaced my comment with; "Whether you now have dual stations or a single station, if these are twin lever controls......, it can be done. The cables may make home runs, or they may be piggy backed from one control to the other......, but there will generally be an open and unused cable lever arm to attach an addition cable to. "

                            I guess that I should have clarified that these would need to be similar to the older Morse Twin-S, for example.

                            Perhaps photos or a more full description of the throttle/shift units could be posted?

                            .
                            Rick E. Gresham, Oregon
                            2850 Bounty Sedan Flybridge model
                            Twin 280 HP 5.7's w/ Closed Cooling
                            Volvo Penta DuoProp Drives
                            Kohler 4 CZ Gen Set

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                              #15
                              Bill is correct, the 32xx has cables from the upper and lower helms that feed a Morse Dual Station Transfer Unit located in the cave on the hull side. These need to be lubed from time to time as they are a source for sticky throttles and shifters that is often overlooked.
                              "Adios Dinero"
                              1997 3988 with new 330 Cummins
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