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    Hino 135 Oil Pressure Switch Mystery-gctid374590

    I think I have chased an engine alarm on my starboard engine for some time and have used poor troubleshooting. The alarm kept going off and I had just replaced the 'low oil pressure' switch (not because of good troubleshooting, but precautionary) so I took her out to see if this fixed it.

    During all of this, the temps and oil pressure shown on the gauges are good and the same as the other engine. I've completely gone through the cooling and operate at around 165 degrees F on both engines. Both oil pressure gauges usually go high at start up and drop down to around 60 PSI during normal operation.

    This usually (exception stated below) starts about one hour after starting to run in a reasonable RPM range like 2000 or less. The symptoms are it goes into alarm and I kill the engine and restart, alarm clears. May take another 15 minutes or an hour, but it returns. This is typical of the alarm 95% of the time and the new switch has not changed this.

    In the morning for the return trip, for the first time it goes off while the engine is warming up. I pull the wire off the bypass switch because that's what I thought it was now (brand new oil filter by the way) given a comment by Billsguns (I think) about a weak spring leading to issues, but the alarm doesn't clear. Pull the wire off of the brand new oil pressure switch and it's the source- alarm stops. Retest to verify.

    The new switch is the Cole Hersee listed in the database #8610. The switch opens up at 5-7.5 PSI and my gauge is saying 60 PSI with the alarm buzzing.

    Given the original hour of running it took to alarm I was thinking that the oil thinning is affecting it. That said, I cannot explain the alarm clearing by just turning off the engine and immediately restarting.

    When I replaced the switch, the oil poured out of the port so I assume that the passage is not plugged, and if it were the alarm would never clear. I intend on buying an external oil pressure gauge to test the system.

    For $16 delivered I'll just buy another pressure switch, but am doubtful that's the problem. I can hope but I'm not usually that lucky.

    Questions:

    1. Any suggestions on something I'm missing?

    2. Is there another place to install an external pressure gauge instead of the port that the pressure switch screws into? This would allow me to keep the questionable pressure switch in service during testing.

    Your comments appreciated, Dean

    #2
    My Hinos have a pressure switch that activates the alternator. This is where Earl tied in to see oil pressure. Have you tried swapping alam switches with the other engine?
    1997 3788/Cummins 6BTA 5.9 M2s (Sold)
    2003 Silverton 42c/Cummins 480CEs
    2019 Cobia 240 CC
    2006 Boston Whaler 13 Sport
    1985 3270/Hino 135s (Sold)

    Vero Beach, Fl.

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      #3
      There are 2 alarms for the oil pressure. the first question I am going to ask is what oil are you running. If it is multi weight you are setting off the bypass alarm! It only took me two years to figure this one out

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        #4
        p91473 wrote:
        My Hinos have a pressure switch that activates the alternator. This is where Earl tied in to see oil pressure. Have you tried swapping alam switches with the other engine?
        To my knowledge the switch you reference is a not an alarm but an 'interupt' switch. This switch is 'normally open- close with increasing pressure', whereas the switch I reference is 'normally closed-open on increasing pressure'. The switch on the alternator keeps electrical loads off of the engine during starting. That's my understanding anyway.

        billsguns wrote:
        There are 2 alarms for the oil pressure. the first question I am going to ask is what oil are you running. If it is multi weight you are setting off the bypass alarm! It only took me two years to figure this one out
        I am running multi-weight. I'm unclear on why you think this is a bypass alarm (and I specifically looked at this per some of your earlier comments over the years) when I'm lifting the wire off of the 'bypass switch' and the alarm is not stopping? Only when I lift the wire on the pressure switch, not bypass, is the alarm clearning. Am I missing something? Thanks, Dean

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          #5
          I cut the connector from the engine and hard wired all of the connections when I first had this issue. (mickeyboat advice) This helped for a little while. At some time after that I switched to multi grade oil and the problem returned I ended up removing my remote oil filter on my starboard engine to make it quit. I just recently made a mental connection to the time line of the failure/problem

          Because you have checked out both oil pressure switches and the sending unit. I would try 30 weight oil. It is a cheap check

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            #6
            I purchased an oil pressure gage and fittings to test the switch in place but never even used them. I had called NAPA and asked for the Cole Hersee 8610. I ended up with the NAPA replacement which is OP6613 for six bucks so decided what the heck. The Cole unit is 5-7.5 PSI while the NAPA unit is 4-6 PSI. I'm sure the difference in range has nothing to do with this, but I swapped out the other new Cole Hersee switch ( installed 4 running hours earlier), and installed this one. I also installed a new oil gauge pressure sender which I had been meaning to do.

            Anyway, went out and ran for four hours and no problem. Had been about 1 hour before I'd get the alarm. So I had the original switch go bad, installed a new replacement switch and it was bad. Just call me lucky I guess.

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              #7
              Glad you figured it out. Bad new switch, what a relief.
              1997 3788/Cummins 6BTA 5.9 M2s (Sold)
              2003 Silverton 42c/Cummins 480CEs
              2019 Cobia 240 CC
              2006 Boston Whaler 13 Sport
              1985 3270/Hino 135s (Sold)

              Vero Beach, Fl.

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                #8
                What a B#*ch to trouble shoot. GOOD JOB

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                  #9
                  p91473 wrote:
                  Glad you figured it out. Bad new switch, what a relief.
                  Yes, that was relief. I didn't even want to think about having real oil pressure issues. Thanks.

                  billsguns wrote:
                  What a B#*ch to trouble shoot. GOOD JOB
                  I feel I just got lucky and you're right, a bad switch really was the last thing on my mind. If the item had cost 30 bucks I'd probably still be at it. I would have got there with the brass tee to install both the new defective switch and test pressure gage, but for once being lazy paid off. That's why I replied with the title defective switch so the next guy will at least consider it as a possibility. Thanks, Dean

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                    #10
                    Anyone have a part number for the oil filter bypass switch for the 150 HP Hino?

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                      #11
                      chuck767 wrote:
                      Anyone have a part number for the oil filter bypass switch for the 150 HP Hino?
                      I talked with Kim at North Harbor Diesel parts and got the following part number: 87-817169. She didn't know if this is a Hino or Mercruiser part number.

                      BTW, they are back ordered with 2 to 3 months lead time.

                      Still trying to determine which of the three sensors is causing intermittent alarm, or if it is the multi weight oil I'm using.

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