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    La Paz Baja as a stayaboard snowbird destination

    Well... I made it to La Paz last night and can say that this place is different than anywhere I have ever been. I am staying right on what is called the Malecon. Think of this as a 30 foot wide sidewalk bordering the beach for a couple of miles. Bordering that sidewalk is a road that is busy but the cars go very slow almost 24 hours a day.

    At night the locals young and old cruise slowly and very friendly down the road people watching. Young kids with loud stereos, mixed literally with grandma and grandpa in their jalopy. Everyone is happy. Everyone is smiling. Everyone is nice and waves.

    One side of this street is the malecon, the other side is pedestrian friendly businesses. Not so much the trinket merchants you see in gringo rich touristy areas, but just pedestrian friendly resturants, ice cream places, a few outdoor bars, that kind of thing.

    The mix here last night was about 80-20 with 80% spanish speaking, and 20% gringos. Again everyone friendly and nice. Kids on little carts, people walking, people just hanging out. Very family friendly.

    I even saw a couple Bayliners!

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    KEVIN SANDERS
    4788 DOS PECES - SEWARD ALASKA


    Whats the weather like on the boat
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    Where am I right now? https://maps.findmespot.com/s/2R02

    #2
    Looks awesome Kevin. Don’t forget ya sunscreen 🌞
    Dave
    Edmonds, WA
    "THE FIX" '93 2556
    Carbureted 383 Vortec-Bravo II
    The Rebuild Of My 2556 https://www.baylinerownersclub.org/f...76?view=thread
    My Misc. Projects
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      #3
      Nice. Don't call yourself a gringo there. Ask a friendly bartender why? Enjoy, Kevin.
      Tally and Vicki
      "Wickus" Meridian 341
      MMSI 338014939

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        #4
        Originally posted by talman View Post
        Nice. Don't call yourself a gringo there. Ask a friendly bartender why? Enjoy, Kevin.
        So I don't embarrass myself, please do tell

        KEVIN SANDERS
        4788 DOS PECES - SEWARD ALASKA


        Whats the weather like on the boat
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        • talman
          talman commented
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          Your Hispanic friends will never call you a gringo. While not always the case, gringo is frequently an insult.

        • ksanders
          ksanders commented
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          ahhh Thanks!

        #5

        I Stopped by Marina La Paz and talked with the owner, Neil. He seems like a very good guy, and he has a very attentive staff that caters to the cruising community.
        His marina is best described as a cruisers marina. A lot of the boats had active stayaboards. I talked with several cruisers and they all really like the marina.

        I also stopped by Marina Cortez. This is a more upscale marina, catering to a more wealthy clientele. When a 4788 just does not seem to fit in at a marina, then maybe it's not the place to be. It is a very good facility, but not near the activity of Marina La Paz. It looks like many of the Marina Cortez owners are absent owners.

        I will stop by the other marinas in the next couple weeks, but they are kinda out of the way, and I feel like I fit in at Marina La Paz, so that's where I'll be reserving a slip from for next winter.

        I also saw I think a BOC members 5788. I thought Bob at one time owned Starship but I might be mistaken


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        • Jim_Gandee
          Jim_Gandee commented
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          Kevin, You are correct in that is Bob’s 5788. He and I ran the Starship from Portland to SoCal then he went with the CUBAR group to La Paz two years ago. We plan to get together at his boat sometime late winter or early spring.

        #6
        OK, how much does food cost in La Paz? Not restaurant food like tourists eat, but real food like a liveaboard might eat.

        So... i went to Wal Mart.

        Their best quality locally grown coffee $5.05 a pound.

        or how about a great looking Cowboy Ribeye... Ok, $7.48 a pound

        Do you like Avacados??? Those are $0.44 each

        The good quality eggs are about $1.50 a dozen

        Arte you a grapefruit eater??? You can get those for $0.50 a pound

        How about pineapple, about the same price $0.50 a pound

        How much is that compared to where you are???

        My thoughts are that since my pension is being paid to me in dollars I can get a good value by spending it in pesos.


        KEVIN SANDERS
        4788 DOS PECES - SEWARD ALASKA


        Whats the weather like on the boat
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          #7
          I visited Marina Palmara today.

          http://marinapalmira.com.mx

          This is far and away the marina you would want your boat in if you were staying all summer. With a full breakwater it is by far the most storm secure marina.

          That said, this is not the marina for me. A bit too upscale. Way too far from town. The folks seem nice there but I would prefer to be at the marina that is the most cruiser friendly.

          Because of that I reserved a slip for next winter at Marina De La Paz

          Here are photos of Mariana Palmaria Very nice indeed.



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          KEVIN SANDERS
          4788 DOS PECES - SEWARD ALASKA


          Whats the weather like on the boat
          https://www.weatherlink.com/embeddab...59665f4e4/wide


          Where am I right now? https://maps.findmespot.com/s/2R02

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          • jongleur
            jongleur commented
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            Leslyn and I spent 5 months in and out of Marina Palmira
            back in 1990, when it was being built. We could anchor our K41
            and tie to the breakwater. We had bikes so we didn't find
            it inconvenient to go into town. It was also closer to the
            entrance to the bay, so we could get to the islands for a
            week or so quicker. It was also not as expensive as it is
            probably now. We had a good time there. Those 3 story
            buildings were being built when we were there. You'll probably
            have a good time at Marina De La Paz too.

          #8
          Regarding cellular and data communications.

          I found my AT&T cell phone and Ipad work seamlessly.

          The AT&T data card for my boats router would not work at all.

          That was solved by a quick stop at a Oxxo store (basically a 7-11 type store found on almost every corner).

          There I bought a Telcel Sim card. Make SURE you pay for activation, and make sure you buy some data for it.

          This is important because all three things are separate. Also they only accept cash for these.

          The card was a few dollars, the activation was about $2.50 and I gought 12GB of data good for 30 days for another $25

          Plugged it in, and after figuring out the correct APN for the card my data came right up.

          Now I am prepared to run my business from La Paz. Yippee!!!




          KEVIN SANDERS
          4788 DOS PECES - SEWARD ALASKA


          Whats the weather like on the boat
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            #9
            Sounds like a great time! It’ll sure be nice leaving your parka in Alaska!
            Jim Gandee
            1989 3888
            Hino 175's
            Fire Escape
            [email protected]
            Alamitos Bay, SoCal

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              #10
              Originally posted by Jim_Gandee View Post
              Sounds like a great time! It’ll sure be nice leaving your parka in Alaska!
              I have been in shorts and fip flops since I got here.

              Another gorgeous Baja morning. There is ZERO reason, since my home is mobile, to not take advantage of that mobility and move it.

              The weather is nice. The people are nice. The costs are low.

              My new slip will cost me a bit over a thousand US dollars a month. Slips are the only expensive thing, but on the flip side I was able to secure a liveaboard slip in a wonderful marina, owned by someone that grew up as a cruising kid, and who caters to the cruising community, for only a thousand a month.

              What a great deal!

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                #11
                Is the plan to transit between AK & La Paz annually?
                Dave
                Edmonds, WA
                "THE FIX" '93 2556
                Carbureted 383 Vortec-Bravo II
                The Rebuild Of My 2556 https://www.baylinerownersclub.org/f...76?view=thread
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                  #12
                  Originally posted by builderdude View Post
                  Is the plan to transit between AK & La Paz annually?
                  I honestly do not know, but I do not think so.

                  I will always love Alaska, and Alaska has been very good to me.

                  That said, Alaska is at a minimum two months of cruising from the tropics and that is a lot of cruising twice a year. I also have two decades in Alaska and long to see new places.

                  My honest plan is to not have a fixed plan. I will spend my first winter here in La Paz. After that I will head up the Baja to at a minimum as far as Ensenada where my insurance will cover the boat during hurricane season. I am guessing here but I'll probably explore California my first summer. Californians enjoy a great state and there is a lot to see as a visitor. I might make it further north but then again I might not.

                  After that I'll decide on the future plans. Will La Paz become a true snowbird home, I do not know. I could theoretically head for the mainland in future years. Mazatlan is popular, as is Banderas bay. I jiust do not know. After a couple of seasons i could choose to get my boat over to the Carribean and explore the great loop, really just don't know where my interest will be.

                  Here's what I do know. I am a solo guy, almost 60 years old, retired, and financially comfortable, but not rich. My 4788 is my home for now until I decide on where to invest in a land based home as a hedge against old age. I will probably buy a condo somewhere in the next couple of years to have a secure place to go when boating gets too hard on my body or I tire of the lifestyle.

                  For now i am going to explore and enjoy life without responsibilities. Where that takes me is anyones guess but that's the fun in it.

                  KEVIN SANDERS
                  4788 DOS PECES - SEWARD ALASKA


                  Whats the weather like on the boat
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                    #13
                    Here is a great example of eating out prices in La Paz

                    This was a high end place, not your cheapie taco joint.

                    I had

                    2 mescal margaritas
                    broiled clam appetizer
                    500 gram prime ribeye (their best ribeye grade and about double the price of the choice ribeye on the menue)

                    total bill was $64.89 USD

                    Remember that was a high end place, for a wonderful steak dinner.

                    I have eaten in some of the best steakhouses in the cities I have been to in America and can guarantee that my dinner bill would have been double that.

                    Earn dollars and spend pesos

                    KEVIN SANDERS
                    4788 DOS PECES - SEWARD ALASKA


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                      I know it must get boring seeing the same beautiful sunrises day after day but that is what defines La Paz, the sunshine.

                      This morning at my home port in Seward it is in the low 20's and the wind is gusting into the 30's. The temperature in my salon is about 50 so I remotely turned on the pilothouse furnace to help out a bit as the return air for the cabins comes partly from the pilothouse. Burrr!!!


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                      4788 DOS PECES - SEWARD ALASKA


                      Whats the weather like on the boat
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                        #15
                        Looks pretty sweet Kevin, temps are currently 25F where I’m at. I’d rather be down there.
                        🌴 ☀️
                        Dave
                        Edmonds, WA
                        "THE FIX" '93 2556
                        Carbureted 383 Vortec-Bravo II
                        The Rebuild Of My 2556 https://www.baylinerownersclub.org/f...76?view=thread
                        My Misc. Projects
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