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[Guest]

I am definitely going to change out the electric stovetop on my 36 Motoryacht to a propane stovetop

I know all about gas sniffers, gas proof lockers, remote shut-offs, etc.etc, etc. This is not new to me. What is new to me is a stove top without an oven or gimballing. The ones I saw at West Marine do not have rails around them like the stove/oven combo has. No biggie, just one more thing to fabricate.

What I do want to know is which propane stove tops are you guys using, do you like it and why did you pick that model.

Thanks in advance

[Machog]

I inherited a 3 burner Princess stove with oven on my 96 4087, we totally love it.

On the hook you don't need to fire up the genet etc. We use the oven quite a bit, boil water for coffee/tea rather than use electricity.

We have a strange horizontal 5 gallon LPG tank (holds about 4 gallons I'm told), but that will last us over 100 days of back to back usage, we go out for about 3 months continuously every year in San Juan and Gulf Islands.

Think tank is probably way out of date, but it fits in the dunnage box, so don't want to replace it. We fill up in Canada once each year and they don't seem to care! It has all sorts of safety stuff, like you mention, including a red lighted kill switch next to the stove.

Machog

[Guest]

I installed a Wallace stove top in my 246 and it works great. There are different models to choose from depending on your needs. With the optional blower motor it makes a nice heater. No propane bottles or assocated issues, it burns kerosene fuel (no exaust smell) one gallon lasts more than one season of use. Good luck!

[Guest]

Machog wrote:
.......On the hook you don't need to fire up the genet etc. We use the oven quite a bit, boil water for coffee/tea rather than use electricity.......Machog

YES!. That is why I am converting.

The boat I have currently has an electric stove top. Unfortunately, they didn't design a place for a stove/oven combo. I guess when a boat comes with a genny, they design all of your travelling and anchoring around the genny. I havent decided whether I want to remake the lower cabinets to accomodate a stove/oven combo or just buy and install a separate gas oven.

Whatever I decide, it will be gas.

[Guest]

5222 wrote:
I installed a Wallace stove top in my 246 and it works great.....!

Thanks. I will check them out. Untill I actually write the check, I am always open to new ideas.

[Go Aweigh2452]

5222 wrote:
I installed a Wallace stove top in my 246 and it works great. There are different models to choose from depending on your needs. With the optional blower motor it makes a nice heater. No propane bottles or assocated issues, it burns kerosene fuel (no exaust smell) one gallon lasts more than one season of use. Good luck!

We are also looking at ripping out the sometimes working electric cooktop with gas... I would like to know where you put the propane and the model of Wallace stove you have...

I am looking at different options like boxing it in the head with overboard drain for leaks, etc. I have a propane sniffer in the engine bay now. TimeOut (2859) put an RV two burner top in his boat and it works great... I plan to use fiberglass tank that is about 4-5 gallons in size since that should last a couple of weeks or more...

[Guest]

Machog wrote:
I inherited a 3 burner Princess stove with oven on my 96 4087, we totally love it.

On the hook you don't need to fire up the genet etc. We use the oven quite a bit, boil water for coffee/tea rather than use electricity.

We have a strange horizontal 5 gallon LPG tank (holds about 4 gallons I'm told), but that will last us over 100 days of back to back usage, we go out for about 3 months continuously every year in San Juan and Gulf Islands.

Think tank is probably way out of date, but it fits in the dunnage box, so don't want to replace it. We fill up in Canada once each year and they don't seem to care! It has all sorts of safety stuff, like you mention, including a red lighted kill switch next to the stove.

Machog

We just filled our propane up- last time we did so was August of last year.

Something to think about-propane is a very wet heat, that is, it produces lots of moisture as a combustion byproduct.

[Go Aweigh2452]

Pau Hana wrote:
We just filled our propane up- last time we did so was August of last year.

Something to think about-propane is a very wet heat, that is, it produces lots of moisture as a combustion byproduct.

Outside of electric, I think just about any gas or liquid (alcohol) burning will cause moisture as a side effect... Even when I use one of those butane stoves in the cabin, the moisture is felt...

[Guest]

I was on a boat in Port McNeil that had a Wallace diesel cook top with the heater option. It was the first time I'd seen one up close. Very cool piece of equipment.

It warmed up a cold, damp boat full of wet people and rain gear in just a few minutes. It did not feel like the damp heat you get from propane systems.

[Guest]

I know propane leaves moisture in the boat and a result of the burning process. I know this because I read it all of the time.

In my personal experience, I have never noticed it. I had a 3 burner stove and oven in my old 30' sailboat. We used it for heat also by doing the inverted flower pot thing. Then when I solo'd to Florida from La. one year I actually sprung for the hundred bucks and bought a propane heater. This was in winter time when there is normally a lot of moisture anyway so if I had any moisture from the propane, which I am sure I did, it went unnoticed.

My current sailboat, a 39 footer, I also use propane for heat when out traveling in it. No moisture problem here either. When at the dock, I have a reverse cycle heat system as part of my A/C. Any moisture I see on the windows and in the "V-berth" from the reverse cycle unit, I attribute to condensation because fiberglass is a terrible insulator. Maybe I dont notice any additional condensation from the propane because of a large volume of space inside or because of the air gaps in the hatches. In either case, my new-to-me 36' motoryacht has more interior volume than my 2 old sailboats combined so I am not too concerned about moisture from a propane heater. Besides, what choice do I have when anchoring out? OH no, not the generator, that's what I am trying to avoid. LOL

Has anyone here ever calculated the amount of moisture put in the air by a propane heater?

[ksanders]

Go Aweigh2452 wrote:
We are also looking at ripping out the sometimes working electric cooktop with gas... I would like to know where you put the propane and the model of Wallace stove you have...

I am looking at different options like boxing it in the head with overboard drain for leaks, etc. I have a propane sniffer in the engine bay now. TimeOut (2859) put an RV two burner top in his boat and it works great... I plan to use fiberglass tank that is about 4-5 gallons in size since that should last a couple of weeks or more...

Doug

The wallas units are diesel, and are available for viewing right on lake washington (or lake Union I don't remember), but either way the Scan Marine office is right there in downtown Seattle, I think right next door to Pete office.

We've had two of the wallas units in different boats and love them. They provide nice dry heat, and are great solid surface cook tops. The diesel/kerosene is in a bottle that can be put underneath the unit, at least thats how our units were set up.

[Guest]

OK, here is what I came up and I may be completely wrong, but here goes anyway....

1 Gal of propane = 4.22 lbs.

I Gal of burned propane produces 1.64 lbs of water.

I calculate that to = 25 Oz. of water for every pound of propane used.

That's about a pint and a half which is meaningless to me since I dont know how much that really is in relationship to the cubic feet of air in the boat. I am too lazy to look up the formulas to do the calculations to see how much that would raise the humidity level in a given cubic footage at a given temp. I do know that in an unheated boat in Galveston Bay in the winter, there can be over a gallon of water in the bilge. In the summer, my A/C will produce about 3.5 to 5 gals a day of condensation water.

Anyway, I going with propane for a cook stove and instant hot water to reduce the amount of time I need to run the generator.

So, any other suggestions for manufacturers of propane stovetops?

[CapMartin]

Machog wrote:
I inherited a 3 burner Princess stove with oven on my 96 4087, we totally love it.

On the hook you don't need to fire up the genet etc. We use the oven quite a bit, boil water for coffee/tea rather than use electricity.

We have a strange horizontal 5 gallon LPG tank (holds about 4 gallons I'm told), but that will last us over 100 days of back to back usage, we go out for about 3 months continuously every year in San Juan and Gulf Islands.

Think tank is probably way out of date, but it fits in the dunnage box, so don't want to replace it. We fill up in Canada once each year and they don't seem to care! It has all sorts of safety stuff, like you mention, including a red lighted kill switch next to the stove.

Machog

I had my tank re-certified this summer at my local propane guy (new safety valve etc...). This is a "before" picture. With new aluminium spraypaint, it looks like new (sorry I don't have an "after" picture).

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[Stratocaster]

If researching diesel heater/cooktops, it's important to spell WALLAS correctly! I see a few calling it WALLACE, that may not give you the desired result in Google....

[Go Aweigh2452]

ksanders wrote:
Doug

The wallas units are diesel, and are available for viewing right on lake washington (or lake Union I don't remember), but either way the Scan Marine office is right there in downtown Seattle, I think right next door to Pete office.

We've had two of the wallas units in different boats and love them. They provide nice dry heat, and are great solid surface cook tops. The diesel/kerosene is in a bottle that can be put underneath the unit, at least thats how our units were set up.

We bought a Wedgewood three burner and it arrived yesterday. Will install after we get back from fishing in Ucluelet next week.