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    Carefully read entire post before giving advice-gctid357265

    Due to some health issues, I have been spending a lot more time here reading post...I am shocked at how far off in left field some replies are....When I ask a question it is usually specific to my 2855 and her equipment, most of the time, the replies that help me the most is from other 2855 owners ( past or present). ( there are exceptions and I value their replies)

    If someone asks for advice for a live aboard diesel powered motor yacht and I only have experience with my little outboard powered 17 ft bow rider, I most likely, will not have anything worthwhile to post.....

    Ps... This is not a rant or rave, just something I have been seeing a lot more of lately....

    #2
    Well said! And no... I don't see this as a rant! It's a valid point!

    Unfortunately, this is pretty much the norm on these forums.

    We all want to help, but often we get side tracked. I've probably done the same myself.

    There is a "sticky" in the Tech Section that touches on this very thing.

    Since we're here, I'd like to add once again how important it is to make the thread title fit the question.

    If the question regards a 1987 Zerglehoister I/B transmission, put 1987 Zerglehoister in the thread title!

    You may this odd, but I'm the only one who works on the Zerglehoister!

    BTW, whatever your illness is, I hope that you get well soon.

    .
    Rick E. Gresham, Oregon
    2850 Bounty Sedan Flybridge model
    Twin 280 HP 5.7's w/ Closed Cooling
    Volvo Penta DuoProp Drives
    Kohler 4 CZ Gen Set

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      #3
      I'm curious how you are able to determine a persons level of experience based upon a response posted in a forum? I don't see anyones' nautical resumes posted here.

      In terms of a reality check ... this is a Bayliner forum. Bayliners are entry-level boats typically sold to first time boat owners. You are safe to assume that everyone posting here is very inexperienced, until you feel that the information you are receiving is coming from an informed source. That is the philosophy I use with any online forum and it has served me well.
      Mocoondo
      2002 Bayliner 195 Capri
      Mercruiser 5.0L V8 / Alpha I Gen II
      MMSI: 338091755

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        #4
        I think that this is why we should consider these to be "suggestions" only. The onus is upon the reader!

        Winterizing for example! The smart reader will appreciate the suggestions, but will ultimately rely on his OEM service manual.
        Rick E. Gresham, Oregon
        2850 Bounty Sedan Flybridge model
        Twin 280 HP 5.7's w/ Closed Cooling
        Volvo Penta DuoProp Drives
        Kohler 4 CZ Gen Set

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          #5
          Not all bayliner owners are at entry level (no I know you weren't generalizing). Many have come from other brand and size of boats. One of my previous boats was a searay . My last boat was a 1996 3988 but I have had at least 10boats but I've stopped counting but before I even owned a boat I worked in a boat repair shop. So you really never know how much experience some one has just by the boat they own.

          I will agreet if you have no or little experience you shouldn't be posting unless you are the one asking the question but then some people have different ideas about how things should be done and its just their opinions
          1989 Avanti 3450 Sunbridge
          twin 454's
          MV Mar-Y-Sol
          1979 Bayliner Conquest 3150 hardtop ocean express.
          Twin chevy 350's inboard
          Ben- Jamin
          spokane Washington

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            #6
            lol rick I am so removing your ability to BOLD everything.

            Take everything with a grain of salt.

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              #7
              Oh I forgot what is a 1987 Zerglehoister ? I want one
              1989 Avanti 3450 Sunbridge
              twin 454's
              MV Mar-Y-Sol
              1979 Bayliner Conquest 3150 hardtop ocean express.
              Twin chevy 350's inboard
              Ben- Jamin
              spokane Washington

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                #8
                biohazard wrote:
                lol rick I am so removing your ability to BOLD everything.
                Ryan, please don't! I'd have to resort to underscoring or a [COLOR]"#B22222" wrote:
                font[/COLOR] [COLOR]"#0000CD" wrote:
                color[/COLOR] [COLOR]"#008000" wrote:
                change[/COLOR] to everything!

                Instead, let me send you a pair of bold blocking eye glasses! These eye glasses remove bold and make [COLOR]"#D3D3D3" wrote:
                this out of it![/COLOR]

                yachtman wrote:
                Oh I forgot what is a 1987 Zerglehoister ? I want one
                They are rare Dave......... very rare!
                Rick E. Gresham, Oregon
                2850 Bounty Sedan Flybridge model
                Twin 280 HP 5.7's w/ Closed Cooling
                Volvo Penta DuoProp Drives
                Kohler 4 CZ Gen Set

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                  #9
                  I absolutely agree with the problem of posting back on subjects that people may have little experience with.

                  Taking this subject to another level over the past year it has become more common for responses to be very detailed on specific issues yet they are absolutely wrong.

                  Many of these inaccurasies could easily lead to losing an engine (or two) or even to an accident or death.

                  It has become just a bit scary.

                  Hope this helps
                  Northport NY

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                    #10
                    Why worry about it? It's the internet. I may own a Bayliner but I'm not entry level and neither is my boat. I've owned a lot of boats as have many others on this (and any other boating) forum. I may not own a 17' bowrider but I may know something that pertains to its care and upkeep. Don't think a response is relevent? Ignore it.

                    After all, part of the fun in particiating in the BOC is being able to offer up some pearl of wisdom from the distant, misty past. Who knows? It may be just the ticket.

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                      #11
                      moconnor wrote:


                      Ps... This is not a rant or rave, just something I have been seeing a lot more of lately....
                      Maybe it because we don't get out much in winter and having to wait for spring at least for us in the northern parts.

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                        #12
                        biohazard wrote:
                        lol rick I am so removing your ability to BOLD everything.

                        Take everything with a grain of salt.
                        Don't do that - right now he's black & white he may resort to color responses.

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                          #13
                          Mocoondo wrote:
                          I'm curious how you are able to determine a persons level of experience based upon a response posted in a forum? I don't see anyones' nautical resumes posted here.

                          In terms of a reality check ... this is a Bayliner forum. Bayliners are entry-level boats typically sold to first time boat owners. You are safe to assume that everyone posting here is very inexperienced, until you feel that the information you are receiving is coming from an informed source. That is the philosophy I use with any online forum and it has served me well.
                          I am not so sure I agree with your assessment that Bayliner owners are first time boat buyers. I am on my third boat now, a 34 foot Bayliner 340. Previously I had a Maxum 19' and a Bay 245 so while I don't consider myself an expert I am far from inexperienced.

                          That said, anyone can post on an online forum and regardless of the vessel they have it doesn't make them an expert or a novice. I generally look for a consensus opinion which I back up with additional research. If the question is about something critical then I will consult a paid expert so I know I am getting good advice. Forums are just one source of data, sometimes good, sometimes not.

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                            #14
                            Personally I try not to offer advice on things I have no direct experience with. But, that said, while I don't own a live-aboard, diesel powered vessel there are some things that are common across all boat types that I would feel qualified to answer.

                            Unfortunately online forums can be much like TV News stations. Check any 3 news channels and you're likely to get 5 different opinions on any given story. At some point you have to validate the source of your info for accuracy and reliability.

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                              #15
                              have to agree with tony here......offering advice is like offering opinions...and opinions are like rear ends...everyone has one and they all stink!!!...some verboseness sometimes will offer more advice than needed.....

                              if you want resumes...that's easy to do.....although I'm on my 3rd boat....started out with a 2455, then maxum 2700scr..now the 340 bayliner...

                              I spent 17 yrs designing nuke subs and surface combat ships....does that qualify me to talk about all boats??...not at all...I don't know enough about diesels to fill a thimbal....but boats in most cases are boats..and the person offering the advice should know thier own limitations........

                              I offer advice most times when I'm fairly confident of my answer.....notice I usually stay away from the liveaboard sections cuz ....guess what....I don't live aboard!!!....

                              I think this one should fall under the rant file.....namely cuz the perps are few and far between......

                              :arr arr

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