Found this on Craigslist, 3055 with blown motor seems a good deal-gctid351185

[Guest]

http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/rds/boa/2841923985.html

[Guest]

Wow, there is a stark difference between the price of boats here (California Delta) and in the PNW. For that price, the 3055 would need to be immaculate in order for it to be taken seriously.

[Guest]

I've been shopping the 3055/305s around the PNW for a long time. Owners of anything decent 1998 and newer are all asking 35+, assume you can get one for 30. I would not consider that a steal with the work it likely will need. The trailer is worth some change, but no mention of a dink or other things like GPS/Radar which will add up in no time at all.

[Guest]

I know I am in the same neighborhood as Astral, but I think that is reasonable deal depending on condition. I got mine (2001) 2 years ago and it is loaded with every option plus many after market ones and had approx 250 hours. I paid quite a bit more. Different time and market but still. I would still buy mine today.

It is option and condition dependent. Mine is fresh water and been under a covered berth 100% of the time.

Great boat and I have put a few grand into it since I have had it. No worries here. argh

[BLCarl]

After shopping SoCal for at least 6 mo. I also found more and better choices in the Sacramento Delta. The market was much more competitive and I got a good deal on my 2452. You still have to be careful because the Sales sharks are very expirenced and arn't obgligated to be truthfull.

Do your home work and learn what to watch for on your own. I could be worth a trip. Fall is good because the season is over and owners will have to pay storage till the boating season gets going again. A few hundred a month for storage is good incentive. I'm a avid do it your self person but it's better cheeper and more fun to work on a boat that dosn't need much fixin, unless it's a give away sale even then do the math realisticly. Check out the shipping costs too.

[Guest]

when it says blown engine and needs polishing ,,,,,run like h###

[cwiert]

bradner wrote:
when it says blown engine and needs polishing ,,,,,run like h###

+1

That looks like no deal to me!

[Guest]

If you do a quick Google search you will find 2000 Bayliners 3055 Ciera for the average asking price from 30-40 K. I wonder why the owner didn't put some money and work in in her to prevent to come into the price range he offers it now? I too would advice you to run away from this steal!

This boat I think is fierce neglected and both props repaired???? Drives need to be painted? What happened to one engine that it need to be hauled. And is the price mentioned in Canadian $ or US $? What is the conversion? Is it in favor of the Canadian $?

[MidnightSun]

If you ask me, $23,000 is a darn good deal assuming the boat is in relatively decent condition even with a blown engine. With the replies I have seen, it sounds like that price should command a pristine condition one? Geeeze, I know the economy is bad but I think you guys are a little too picky. Oh well, guess Midnight Sun being older is worth only about $12,000 or maybe I can sell it for the price of the full tank of gas. Don't forget, he is in Canada where the boats sell for quite a bit more than the US. A smart Canuck buys his boat in the US. Here is an example of asking prices in Quebec, Canada. http://www.lespac.com/petites-annonc...ffZZ0WWpageZZ0

[Guest]

I'm not buying or even looking........just stumbled across it, there has to be $8-10,000 trailer there too.:greedy_dollars:

[ksanders]

So, ANY boat with good engines will sell for more than the same boat with a blown up engine. We all know that.

IF, the owner can get a new engine in this boat for what he says he can, then that owner would be money ahead to do so. Why is he not doing that? If the owner can't afford to repair then sell the boat, what other defered maint is out there?

My bet is that replacing the engine will run a heck of allot more than folks think, and the owner probably knows this as well.

I've replaced two gas engines in Bayliners. Paid to have the work done both times. The first was a engine I had custom built. In and out the door cost was more like 8K back in 2002

Last one was a much larger engine, a 496. Factory drop in so the cost was higher but labor was lower. About 16K total, although I had much more work done which drove up the cost from there. This was in 2008.

When evaluating a boat with a blown motor you need to look at what the boat is really worth with a new motor, then factor in the cost to have a motor professionally installed. This will result in what the boat is really worth AS-IS.

I just did this exact same thing with our 4788. Bought the boat for 130K. Paid 50K for two new Cummins 330 HP engines installed. Was into the boat at that point $180K for an "average" 4788. That was a pretty fair deal and represents the kind of math people considering boats with blown engines need to do.

[Guest]

The trailer is something to consider. 8-10k , no but at elast 5-6k used condition. Someone doing it themselves could replace the engine for 2-3k No problem. Replacing my cracked block on my 3055 will cost me around 2k, but that is doing all the labor myself. If I have a mecahnic do it, the price goes up substantially.

I woudlnt pay a dollar over 20k for the boat. Depending on the condition of the rest of the boat as well.

Honestly though, EVEN IF the boat is in average conditon, you spend 7k on an engine. Your stillg etting a 2000 3055 for 30k WITH TRAILER and thats still a pretty decent deal. That is at the 23k + 7k engine.

[Guest]

ksanders wrote:
IF, the owner can get a new engine in this boat for what he says he can, then that owner would be money ahead to do so. Why is he not doing that? If the owner can't afford to repair then sell the boat, what other defered maint is out there?

My bet is that replacing the engine will run a heck of allot more than folks think, and the owner probably knows this as well.

There is a very good possibility the owner cannot afford to replace the engine. Anybody with an ounce of common sense will jump on an opportunity to spend $2000 to get $5000 (or whatever the premium for a new engine may be) in return.

In helping a friend shop for a boat, I recently looked at a 1986 Contessa 2850 on a trailer going for $5500. On the surface it appeared to be a good deal. But the owner used it as his "party pad" and treated it as such. The interior was far from being "usable" and would have involved a considerable amount of time, money, and labor invested in order to bring it back to life. The exterior of the boat was far from well maintained. The gel coat was either needing much new life brought back to it or new topside paint. The boat had no electronics and the helm needed new surfaces. The transom was rotted as well. By the time all was said and done, this $5500 boat needed at least $10K additional input in order for it to be made decent. Now $15500 for that Contessa was on the high end; and we could easily have found a well equipped and well maintained Contessa for far below that price.

Everything in the ad points to a lot of deferred maintenance on that 3055. It would take a considerable investment in order to get it to a decent state. Hence, this is not a good deal. Just my two cents.

[Guest]

Wow I didn't mean to create a debate ....... op I know a 13000# galvinzed road runner trailer up here is close to $10 G's and a bit of elbow grease and a rebuilt motor you would have a decent boat I'm sure the price is negotiable.op

[Guest]

MidnightSun wrote:
If you ask me, $23,000 is a darn good deal assuming the boat is in relatively decent condition even with a blown engine. With the replies I have seen, it sounds like that price should command a pristine condition one? Geeeze, I know the economy is bad but I think you guys are a little too picky. Oh well, guess Midnight Sun being older is worth only about $12,000 or maybe I can sell it for the price of the full tank of gas. Don't forget, he is in Canada where the boats sell for quite a bit more than the US. A smart Canuck buys his boat in the US. Here is an example of asking prices in Quebec, Canada. http://www.lespac.com/petites-annonc...ffZZ0WWpageZZ0

All the 305 shown in the link are younger than year 2000 and some are very well equipped with AC heat and cold and Navigation stuff.

So imho that's no good comparison. And as the Canadian $ has a higher value that' a big plus to look for a better younger US boat. I still think more than $ K22 is still a lot of money to spend on a boat without a sea trial and a survey. I wonder how that can be done!