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    Hi all again,

    We have anew 2005 Ciera 305 2x200 Mercury Diesel engined Bayliner.

    We had some problem with the macerator and i asked some questions about it herehttp://www.baylinerownersclub.org/fo...macerator-help.

    But we need some help about a few other problems.

    1. The boat seems heavier on the left side. Is this a general Ciera problem? Any suggestions?

    2. The throttle is really hard to move from Forward to N then to Rear vice versa. As far as i heard it is due to being mechanic throttle. Is there anything i can do to make shift softer?

    3. The dashboard seems to have problem too. When i hit the rpm of the engines they change values. And also the Trim indicators are not moving at all. How can i fix the trim indicators? I think the all panel have a shortcut problem.

    Thanks

    #2
    Don't know about the other questions, but my 2003 305 has always listed to port since we bought it new in the summer of 2003.

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      #3
      Ozgurus wrote:
      Hi all again,

      We have anew 2005 Ciera 305 2x200 Mercury Diesel engined Bayliner.

      We had some problem with the macerator and i asked some questions about it herehttp://"http://www.baylinerownersclu...macerator-help.

      But we need some help about a few other problems.

      1. The boat seems heavier on the left side. Is this a general Ciera problem? Any suggestions?

      2. The throttle is really hard to move from Forward to N then to Rear vice versa. As far as i heard it is due to being mechanic throttle. Is there anything i can do to make shift softer?

      3. The dashboard seems to have problem too. When i hit the rpm of the engines they change values. And also the Trim indicators are not moving at all. How can i fix the trim indicators? I think the all panel have a shortcut problem.

      Thanks
      1. Pretty standard, port listing seems to be the going thing for 305/3055's. Re-distribute some wieght around and it will help a bit. Most of them I have seen list to port. Not a problem really, just the nature of the beast. All that weight in the galley I belive is what causes this, bathroom, water heater, sink, counters, etc all on port side.

      2.replacing cables is a start, many members said the cables in the drive have done the trick. Others have replaced the long cables that run to the throttles, and some have gone as far as replacing it all and some even setting up a fly by wire setup. Mine is a bit stiff as well, going to start with drive cables next year.

      3.gauges being a pita is pretty standard. Both my RPM gauges hop all over, some fixes people have posted here is cleaning connections, removing the black connectors and installing look connectors on the wires and screwing them down to the terminals wiht a nut and lock washer. As far as your trim indicators I am not sure on that one.

      I envy your diesels.....do you have any pics of those bad boys in the engine bay? mmmmmmm diesel.

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        #4
        1. The boat seems heavier on the left side. Is this a general Ciera problem? Any suggestions?

        2. The throttle is really hard to move from Forward to N then to Rear vice versa. As far as i heard it is due to being mechanic throttle. Is there anything i can do to make shift softer?

        3. The dashboard seems to have problem too. When i hit the rpm of the engines they change values. And also the Trim indicators are not moving at all. How can i fix the trim indicators? I think the all panel have a shortcut problem.
        1. Mine lists to port slightly also. I do have extra batteries over there that I'm going to move over. Maybe you could add an extra house battery to starboard...

        2. The lower shift cables are bad. I just did mine, fixed the same problem. When was the last time the outdrive service was done?

        3. The tachometer problem is very common. Tap it and it will settle. Some people take them out and clean all the connections, and run the cylinder select switch back and forth a few times. Trim indicators are a problem on all Mercruisers. You can replace the senders at the same time you do the shift cables.

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          #5
          Thanks for the replies.

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            #6
            What is drive cable?

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              #7
              Ozgurus wrote:
              What is drive cable?
              the cable that goes through to drive for shifting. drive shift cable.

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                #8
                YEah, I've experienced the same things on mine.

                1. THey all seem to list to port. It kinda annoys me too. Not much you can do about it.

                2. Mine is hard to shift too. I had my lower shift cables replaced last year, and its getting tough to shift again. I have no idea what's going on. If you do a google search, you'll see that some people do a trick with marvels mystery oil and a compressor to blow oil through the shift cables. I think I may try that next spring to see if it helps.

                3. My tachs were sticky too. I removed them, and per Faria, the maker of the gauges, I moved the engine selector switch on the back of the gauge back and forth a few times. Its been MUCH MUCH better since I did that this past spring.

                4. Your trim sending unit is probably bad. THey are located on the outdrives, near the top, under a round cover. Sometimes the wires in there get corroded and break off. The trim sending unit is on the starboard side of the outdrive. The trim limit is on the port side of the outdrive. It looks the same. Don't mess with that one on the port side! Honestly, I wouldn't worry about either of them at all. I drive with the engines all the way down anyway. I never even need to adjust the outdrive trim.
                2003 Bayliner 305 - SOLD!
                Twin 5.7L, Carb'd, 445 hours
                Bravo II drives
                Closed-cooling

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                  #9
                  I would recommend trimming up. I can get nearly 10% better MPG with the drives trimmed to level as opposed to full in. According to the flow meters my best MPG is with about 70% tab down, trimmed up just off the bottom of the gauge, 3800 RPM.

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                    #10
                    I keep mine all the way down. I have trimmed all my previous boats, this on reacts negatively with +- 10% trim.

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                      #11
                      my cavitates too easily when trimmed, it also brings the bow up to an annoying level. With tabs this could be limited though I suppose. The only time I really trim is when at WOT, she seems to be happiest then.

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                        #12
                        this on reacts negatively with +- 10% trim.
                        Do you raise your tabs after getting on plane? I find that my boat does best with tabs mostly down and trim neutral, so I'm curious whether your boat is different or you're doing something different. Also do you have flow meters to get MPG?

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                          #13
                          There's a couple schools of thought on oiling or greasing sheath enclosed cables. If there's any chance of dust or other gunk getting in there, it will stick to the oiled cable and sheath interior and eventually there will be a build up, making the problem worse.

                          Make sure that your hand shifting control is not binding against the exterior cover that it is mounted to. Some of the control lever mount covers stick out so far from the backing plate that they press against the lever making it difficult to move the lever. Your control lever should move freely without touching the upholstery or backing plate cover behind it.

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                            #14
                            SwampNut wrote:
                            Do you raise your tabs after getting on plane? I find that my boat does best with tabs mostly down and trim neutral, so I'm curious whether your boat is different or you're doing something different. Also do you have flow meters to get MPG?
                            Yes once on plane I raise my tabs quite a bit, I do not adjust my trim at all. Do not have flow meters but basically run the boat at 1800 or 3800 rpms. Seems to be the sweet spots based on my reading.

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                              #15
                              Brad 3055 wrote:
                              Yes once on plane I raise my tabs quite a bit, I do not adjust my trim at all. Do not have flow meters but basically run the boat at 1800 or 3800 rpms. Seems to be the sweet spots based on my reading.
                              I do the same as well. I was planning on instlaling lowrance meters this year but the dinghy budget went a bit over so next year I will order them up and test.

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