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    I made a mistake and am looking for a solution... please take a minute and read-gctid809520

    Hello everyone,

    let me start by saying this forum has been very friendly and helpful... I do not consider myself an expert or even very good / excellent when it comes to boating. My navigation skills are nadda... I run up and down the same 45 miles of river and enjoy the coves and beaches and such... my mechanical skill set is above average and I was a marine technician for along time.

    With that said I have made a rather large mistake / bad decision and figured I would come here to try and solve it....

    The engine in my 2850 Contessa lost a cylinder due to bad valves... I tore it all apart and left it... boat was clean as a whistle and very very nice.... while contemplating what to due I walked into a deal for a '93 3058 Command bridge--- so what do I do... I sell the 2850 for what I paid for it and watched it head to Maine.

    The 3058 I have delivered and its on stands.... almost as soon as it was set down I started saying "what did I do..." there's no trailer and there's 2 of everything and it its a lot more boat than the 2850...

    So... after sitting and thinking and thinking and so on I have decided to sell it and hope that someone with more time and such can put it to full use. I wish I never sold the 2850... wish I had bought a new Michigan motor and kept on going with it...

    My family is disappointed, I'm disappointed and just frustrated with myself for getting all excited and not looking at the big picture before making the move. Bigger isn't always better and realizing your limitations is something we all need to consider.

    With that said the 3058 will be in the for sale section and I would also consider trades for a 25--29 ft command bridge Bayliner... preferably with a single screw and a Volvo or Mercruiser... OMC's are not my thing and its nothing personal.

    It took a lot to type this up and I feel like an idiot... but now I have to come up with a solution.

    Tony Ruggiero

    #2
    Your not the first person who has done this!.

    Sounds like you already have a good plan. Sell the one you have and buy another 2850.
    Pat. Sandpoint Ida
    I NEED ANOTHER BOAT!!

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      #3
      Tony, I have the perfect answer to your problem. Buy my 1999 Bayliner Ciera 2655 with a 2007 trailer for only $14000. See my ad in Boats for sale section.
      1999 Bayliner Ciera 2655
      5.7 Bravo 3

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        #4
        Hi Ken,

        Id love too... but 2 problems... the admiral has shut down the bank and rightfully so... and I'm really hoping to get another command bridge... once you have one they are near impossible to let go of.

        Thanks

        Tony

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          #5
          The 3058 isn't that much more of a boat - and while a bit harder to work on in the bilge it is a better running boat than the Contessa with a single engine.

          Don't give up just yet. The costs aren't double on everything because you are working things half as hard and can stretch out intervals a bit.
          1999 Sandpiper Pilothouse - Current
          1989 3888 - 2011-2019, 1985 Contessa - 2005-2011, 1986 21' Trophy 1998-2005
          Nobody gets out alive.

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            #6
            That 93 3058 is the cats meow according to Joon, I'd trust his opinion on it. It is a bit big to tow around but can be done and if you've been towing a 2850 then you probably won't have any issues towing the 3058. Sounds like you've got the mechanical skills to do the job, I say look for a trailer while you get the mechanicals sorted and don't look back.
            Dave
            Edmonds, WA
            "THE FIX"
            '93 2556
            Carbureted 383 Vortec-Bravo II 2.0:1 18 1/4x19 P

            The rebuild of my 2556 https://www.baylinerownersclub.org/f...76?view=thread
            Misc. projects thread
            https://www.baylinerownersclub.org/f...56-gctid789773

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              #7
              Tony, if there's one thing I've learned and have to keep relearning is that I'm not nearly as in control as I think I am. Things and opportunities present themselves and sometimes I wonder how I'm going to get out of what seems to be a mess then I relax and just let it cook a while longer. Every time a solution presents itself that is better than anything I was doing on purpose. Don't let sellers remorse get you down, there's a reason you have that 3058. Like Builder said, get a trailer, make the 3058 yours.

              I am confused about your comment about two of everything. Looking at your avatar I see a Command Bridge, so two helms, single engine, right. Is the 3058 a twin engine boat? Isn't it also a Command Bridge? My Admiral has been wondering about some of my ideas and projects for 43 years and I can't count the number of time the bank was shut down until a viable plan was developed. Like out purchase last summer of our 3818, I was looking at all new electronics and was promptly redirected. So the electronics are old but functional other more important things, like replacing the blackwater system, have been completed, the old boat finally sold and the moorage cost for it went away.

              Tell the family it's time to make some new memories. Figure out some things they are going to like better, like maybe a larger water tank for longer showers or it has an electric flush toilet instead of a manual. If it doesn't work for you after a season or two, then sell it and go back to a Contessa. Just my stupid opinion.
              P/C Pete
              Edmonds Yacht Club (Commodore 1993)
              1988 3818 "GLAUBEN”
              Hino EH700 175 Onan MDKD Genset
              MMSI 367770440

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                #8
                "Pcpete" post=809552 wrote:
                Tony, if there's one thing I've learned and have to keep relearning is that I'm not nearly as in control as I think I am. Things and opportunities present themselves and sometimes I wonder how I'm going to get out of what seems to be a mess then I relax and just let it cook a while longer. Every time a solution presents itself that is better than anything I was doing on purpose. Don't let sellers remorse get you down, there's a reason you have that 3058. Like Builder said, get a trailer, make the 3058 yours.

                I am confused about your comment about two of everything. Looking at your avatar I see a Command Bridge, so two helms, single engine, right. Is the 3058 a twin engine boat? Isn't it also a Command Bridge? My Admiral has been wondering about some of my ideas and projects for 43 years and I can't count the number of time the bank was shut down until a viable plan was developed. Like out purchase last summer of our 3818, I was looking at all new electronics and was promptly redirected. So the electronics are old but functional other more important things, like replacing the blackwater system, have been completed, the old boat finally sold and the moorage cost for it went away.

                Tell the family it's time to make some new memories. Figure out some things they are going to like better, like maybe a larger water tank for longer showers or it has an electric flush toilet instead of a manual. If it doesn't work for you after a season or two, then sell it and go back to a Contessa. Just my stupid opinion.
                Hi, heres what I mean.... the Contessa had 1 engine, 1 drive, 1 crank mounted raw water pump etc...

                This 3058 has 2 engines, 2 belt driven raw water pumps, 2 raw water pumps in the Alpha gen 2s to keep them cool, the 4 cylinder Ford industrial turning the genset, the raw water belt driven pump for the genset, 3 strainers, 3 fuel filters, 4 batteries and on and on.... im the only "engineer" on board and I probably trippled the maintenance regiment.

                Im just wishing I had the Contessa back... shouldve stuck within my comfort zone.

                Thanks all for the kind words

                Tony

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                  #9
                  So you have a little buyers remorse.

                  I think your over reacting. You had a good idea when you bought the new boat. Don't panic. Use that boat. I think you will learn to love it.

                  Yes you have 2 engines but its just more of the same. You do your own work so cost will be minimal.

                  Look at as a great safety feature if an engine quits.

                  Doug
                  Started boating 1955
                  Number of boats owned 32
                  Bayliners
                  2655
                  2755
                  2850
                  3870 presently owned
                  Favorite boat. Toss up. 46' Chris Craft, 3870 Bayliner

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                    #10
                    Tony I'm curious, what condition is the 3058 in? Does it need a ton of work or is it basically ready to go minus a trailer? Got any pics to share?
                    Dave
                    Edmonds, WA
                    "THE FIX"
                    '93 2556
                    Carbureted 383 Vortec-Bravo II 2.0:1 18 1/4x19 P

                    The rebuild of my 2556 https://www.baylinerownersclub.org/f...76?view=thread
                    Misc. projects thread
                    https://www.baylinerownersclub.org/f...56-gctid789773

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                      #11
                      Tony,

                      I'm going to encourage you to make a go of it brother! You'll really like having two engines, well except for the fuel cost. The larger boat will be more comfortable and after a while the Admiral might even want a bigger boat!
                      Jim Gandee
                      1989 3888
                      Hino 175's
                      Fire Escape
                      [email protected]
                      Alamitos Bay, SoCal

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                        #12
                        Launch the 3058 and make it yours. Enjoy it ! Life's too short for this type of angst - 'specially when it's boating related..!
                        ________________
                        1989 Bayliner 3270

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                          #13
                          "builderdude" post=809574 wrote:
                          Tony I'm curious, what condition is the 3058 in? Does it need a ton of work or is it basically ready to go minus a trailer? Got any pics to share?
                          Hi, there are basic pics in the for sale section... I can get detailed pics and send to your email. Please message me with the address. Boat doesnt need a --ton-- of work . It does need wax , paint and a good detailing. Tony

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                            #14
                            I think you're looking at the "2 of everything" in the "glass half empty" point of view. Maybe you should think of it as "I have a SPARE of everything". In my experience, when it comes to boating, having a spare is always a good idea.

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                              #15
                              Oh! I understand your thought completely! I came from sailing where I trusted the wind to blow and my skills to get the boat home without an engine. The engine was a back up if the wind quit... I understood how to move a sailboat with very little wind and I trust my skills to get back to the dock safely even without an engine or any battery.

                              Now, I have a 41 foot sundeck trawler with two 210 HP Cummins engines, two props, two of all the parts on each engine, PLUS a 3 cylinder Onan generator (with a re-branded Yanmar engine on it). Not to mention the water and waist system on the boat, electrical system, refrigerator, electronics, fiberglass to keep up and then there is the dinghy/outboard...

                              If I think about it, it will make me sick! So.. I DON'T think about it and I enjoy the boat and find the maintenance to be fun to do. I have found the engine maintenance to be easy to keep up. I have found that there isn't' that much more to do to this boat than a sailboat of equal size. And I have learned to love our boat and how well it handles the seas and having a crowd of family and friends on it.

                              We went from a 3288 to a 41 foot sundeck. We couldn't be happier with the change. Sure the systems are larger, but not that much. Sure the engines are larger, but again not that much. Sure, the haul out and paint is more, but again not that much. Plus, my wife is MUCH happier with this boat for how we use the boat.

                              I will tell you, I was not excited about selling our 3288 (even though we wanted a larger boat). And I wasn't too excited when we bought the Symbol 41 we now have. Almost 2 years later, I am very happy with the change and am pleased we did it. And the maintenance is almost the same between these two boats. Oh, and the Symbol 41 is easier to handle in all aspects than the 3288 was.

                              Good luck with your boats. If you haven't used your new to you boat, get it out on the water and enjoy it before it sells And stop thinking like an engineer!
                              1992 3288, twin Hino 150's sold
                              S. Puget Sound

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