Anchor for 97 2655 ?-gctid374594

[Guest]

I had an 18 or 16 lb. anchor on the bow it fit perfect however we back in to the beach and toss a rear anchor out as it gets crowded . however when the waves would get bigger the boat would drag it . I put a 22lb on ( these were both Danforth Fluke anchors btw) it stays where i put it but it fits like **** in the pulpit , it teeters on the roller and doesnt seat properly. Who has a late 90's model 2655 and what anchor do you use . I anchor almost 100% of time in sand. Suggestions? i have the stock pulpit roller. My anchors r the cheap galvanized so i dont mind replacing them.

[dmcb]

Your smaller Danforth should work perfect for the way you anchor. I suggest you need more scope. Try that before you buy a new anchor.

Doug

[Guest]

doug , the smaller danforth did not hold in anything over 1ft waves coming in. the 22lb holds great buts fits crappy. I have 10ft of chain and 200 line which i used for both. My problem is with the fit of the larger fluke. generally im in about 5ft of water whn i drop anchor and we back in till the transom reaches about 3 ft depth. i have about 30 ft of rode out at that point. Im interested in what fits the pulpit best. im not opposed to changing style (claw ) whatever .

[Guest]

Scraping B wrote:
I had an 18 or 16 lb. anchor on the bow it fit perfect however we back in to the beach and toss a rear anchor out as it gets crowded . however when the waves would get bigger the boat would drag it . I put a 22lb on ( these were both Danforth Fluke anchors btw) it stays where i put it but it fits like **** in the pulpit , it teeters on the roller and doesnt seat properly. Who has a late 90's model 2655 and what anchor do you use . I anchor almost 100% of time in sand. Suggestions? i have the stock pulpit roller. My anchors r the cheap galvanized so i dont mind replacing them.

I have a 22 lb stainless CQR Plow Style anchor on mine and anchor in exact same conditions as you. I only have 10' of chain and have windlass. On my new 2855 I'm going with 30' of chain and same set up. I would only drag if three or more boats tied up without using their anchor. I would also suggest maybe 20 -25 of chain for your boat.

[Guest]

3wide, thanks brother for the input ,how does your plow fit when its up tight and snubbed in?? This is the whole problem , i like the 22lb danforth but it doesnt fit right when its pulled up tight and nested. I actually had my snubber line break last year while taking on some big lake MI white caps and was dragging my anchor behind like a lure after it put a half dollar size chip in my hull . It pivots on the roller , there is no tight position .

[Guest]

Scraping B wrote:
3wide, thanks brother for the input ,how does your plow fit when its up tight and snubbed in?? This is the whole problem , i like the 22lb danforth but it doesnt fit right when its pulled up tight and nested. I actually had my snubber line break last year while taking on some big lake MI white caps and was dragging my anchor behind like a lure after it put a half dollar size chip in my hull . It pivots on the roller , there is no tight position .

Sits perfect,very happy with how it lays in roller/pulpit area. PM me with a number and i could send you a cell pic this weekend if you like.

[Guest]

yes! i will , we are talking about how it sat on your 2655 correct? not your new 2855. and thank you, what is your opinion on how your plow style set in the sand compared to a danforth. ill hit your pm with my cell , thanks again

[Guest]

Scraping B wrote:
doug , the smaller danforth did not hold in anything over 1ft waves coming in. the 22lb holds great buts fits crappy. I have 10ft of chain and 200 line which i used for both. My problem is with the fit of the larger fluke. generally im in about 5ft of water whn i drop anchor and we back in till the transom reaches about 3 ft depth. i have about 30 ft of rode out at that point. Im interested in what fits the pulpit best. im not opposed to changing style (claw ) whatever .

My first thought is what Doug said. Plus, a 1' wave should be non existent to an anchor. How do you determine how much rode to put out?... I'd like to see your math on this if you don't mind.

[Guest]

Scraping B wrote:
yes! i will , we are talking about how it sat on your 2655 correct? not your new 2855. and thank you, what is your opinion on how your plow style set in the sand compared to a danforth. ill hit your pm with my cell , thanks again

Yes the 2655. It hooked in very good and with a little more chain I bet would have held the other lazy boaters I have connected to me. I'm keeping that anchor for new boat and see if it is enough.

[Guest]

I have a Delta 22 lb plow on my 96 2655. I works great and fits tight on the roller. It does wiggle side to side a little but not enough to hit the underside of the pulpit. look at my pics, does yours look the same as mine or hang lower / higher?

[Guest]

mike c, as i said , im backed into 3 ft of water and i have 30 ft of rode out . So im at 10-1 scope if you want to take away the 4 ft from the water to my pulpit im still over the recommended 7-1 scope. My 10 ft of chain is more than adequate im sure . My post is about getting an anchor that "fits" the pulpit . The 22 lb danforth does not fit correctly. Eric, that plow looks good and appears to fit nice. Im definitly making a purchase b4 i splash . thanks for the pics.

[dmcb]

Something wrong here and I guess I am not understanding your situation.

I got the impression you were backed toward shore with a stern anchor.

If that is correct a Danforth should work. The harder you pull the more it digs. The problem with a Danforth is when the wind changed and the boat reverses, if flips over and must reset. If there are weeds it sometimes does not reset.

Again if you are using a stern anchor so the boat can't swing, the only way a Danforth would fail is if it wasn't set well in the first place.

Anything, weeds, a stick, anything caught in the anchor will prevent it from setting.

I anchor the entire season which for me is about 100 days. I have been doing this for about 25 years now so I have had my share of anchor problems.

I quit using a Danforth because of the flipping and not resetting problem. Where I boat a failure can end on the rocks. I tried a Delta and it was the very worst for me. I had way to many failures. My friend had the same problem. He was a bit hard to change and some members here have seen him slipping by them when at anchor. I have seen his Delta slip more times than I can count. He finally changed anchors last year after many sleepless nights with his Delta.

I went to a Bruce about 12 years ago. First on my 2755, then on the 2850 and now on our 3870. I have not had one slippage with a Bruce in all that time. About 1200 nights on the hook.

We anchor in clay, sand, mud, and sometimes weeds.

To my thinking, if you anchor you want the best anchor to hold, not to look good or fit your pulpit. That isn't the purpose of an anchor.

You will get a lot of anchor advise here. Is it from one who only anchors in good weather, in very protected areas and a few times a year.

Take what I am saying for whatever you will but I am speaking from over 50 years of boating and well over 2500 nights on the hook in all conditions and all kinds of bottoms.

I used a 15# Bruce on my Contessa and I had that boat 10 years, in Michigan and later in Florida.

I was in a 140 mph blow in our 3870 with a 39# Bruce and it didn't move.

I do use all chain rode however and did on all 3 boats I mentioned.

And you do figure your scope from the top of your pulpit.

I do have one question. Do you have a true Danforth or a knockoff? If its the latter, I think that is your problem.

Under the conditions I think I understand you anchor, I would sleep well with a properly set Danforth.

Doug

[Guest]

Doug , it most likely is a knockoff danforth(fluke) as it was 40 buks from Bass pro . The 16lb was the same . The 22 held excellent , the 16 was not enough for the boat . you are correct ,we are backing in and setting our main then using a stern to keep boat staight. by the end of the afternoon there will be a 100 boats 5-10 ft apart all min a row. however the other factor is the breaking waves , you might say why not anchor farther out where they are not breaking but here you are in 10ft of water and when everyone else is backed in much farther your kids are whinning "get closer DAD!!". so yes my question was to other 2655 owners What fits nicely and of course "performs best". Im getting the performance from the 22 lb. fluke but not the fit. I will definitly check out the Bruce, this is excactly the inputs i wanted . BTw many times we use a greater scope on roughrer days . My 16lb. fluke has become my stern anchor which is great for it. Thanks for all advise guys. #wide im still interested in ur pics too.

[boatworkfl]

Having a boat in Alaska, I cannot even imagine anchoring where there are 50 to 100 boats, might as well be at the dock, and anchoring in 3 ft of water is hard to understand when I am used to 9 to 12 foot tides, if the wind came up in 3 ft of water wow I am used to anchoring in 180 ft of water in a sheltered cove. In your area I think I would rather be in 12 ft and be out a little further, not meaning to be sarcastic, maybe a little nieve for the area, but I just cannot imagine it. A 26 ft boat should have at least a 22 lb anchor and 25 ft of chain, exception for some fortress alum anchors that dig.

I find it uncomfortable when I anchor in a known bay out of Seward, Ak when I see more than 4 or 5 boats.

That being said, with the close quarters in your bay, the anchor should be: Heavier is better depending on the anchor.

Be safe, nothing is worse than pulling the anchor and re setting it at 2 am.

[dmcb]

Scraping B wrote:
Doug , it most likely is a knockoff danforth(fluke) as it was 40 buks from Bass pro . The 16lb was the same . The 22 held excellent , the 16 was not enough for the boat . you are correct ,we are backing in and setting our main then using a stern to keep boat staight. by the end of the afternoon there will be a 100 boats 5-10 ft apart all min a row. however the other factor is the breaking waves , you might say why not anchor farther out where they are not breaking but here you are in 10ft of water and when everyone else is backed in much farther your kids are whinning "get closer DAD!!". so yes my question was to other 2655 owners What fits nicely and of course "performs best". Im getting the performance from the 22 lb. fluke but not the fit. I will definitly check out the Bruce, this is excactly the inputs i wanted . BTw many times we use a greater scope on roughrer days . My 16lb. fluke has become my stern anchor which is great for it. Thanks for all advise guys. #wide im still interested in ur pics too.

As I suspected. I am sure the problem is your cheap anchor. They do not work like a real Danforth. Like most things you get what you pay for.

Get a Danforth and it will work. You are larger in size for your boat.

I have never seen a knock off Danforth that worked well. They look the same but they are not.

That is not true from what I have seen with a Bruce type. The knock offs work.

Here is a chart for size.

Anchor Weight Guide

BOAT SIZE ANCHOR WEIGHT

Length(ft) Weight(lbs) Bruce(lbs) Danforth*(lbs) Fortress(lbs) Plow(lbs) Yachtsman(lbs)

20-25 2,500 4.4 8-S, 5-H** 4 10 15

26-30 5,000 11 13-S, 12-H 7 15 25

31-35 10,000 11/16.5 22-S, 12-H 7/10 20 35-40

36-40 15,000 16.5 22-S, 20-H 10 25 50

41-45 20,000 22 40-S, 20-H 15 35 65

46-50 30,000 22/44 65-S, 35-H 21 45 75

51-60 50,000 44 85-S, 60-H 32 60 100

Anchor Rode Guide

BOAT SIZE ANCHOR RODE

Length (ft) Weight (lbs) Chain (dia.-inch) Nylon (dia.-inch) Length (ft)

20-25 2,500 3/16 7/16 90

26-30 5,000 1/4 7/16 135

31-35 10,000 5/16 1/2 190

36-40 15,000 3/8 9/16 225

41-45 20,000 7/16 5/8 240

46-50 30,000 1/2 11/16 315

51-60 50,000 9/16 3/4 360

*Danforth is a registered trademark. Similar-style anchors may differ significantly in

performance. **S indicates standard anchor; B indicates high-tensile anchor