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    Advice on eisenglass please....-gctid370528

    Put on new canvas and glass from Leta's about 2 years back, and the eisenglass is already badly clouded. Seems like my last plastic lasted a lot longer. Are there different qualities or brands to look for? What really causes the cloudiness? Seems like some panels are affected much worse than others--Thanks! Mike

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    MikeMag wrote:
    Put on new canvas and glass from Leta's about 2 years back, and the eisenglass is already badly clouded. Seems like my last plastic lasted a lot longer. Are there different qualities or brands to look for? What really causes the cloudiness? Seems like some panels are affected much worse than others--Thanks! Mike
    Yes, there are different thicknesses, brands and qualities. I'm not sure what Leta's uses and she's about 10 minutes from my house, but I use another canvas guy in Seattle, who's never steered me wrong and I've found his work much higher quality.

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      MikeMag wrote:
      Put on new canvas and glass from Leta's about 2 years back, and the eisenglass is already badly clouded. Seems like my last plastic lasted a lot longer. Are there different qualities or brands to look for? What really causes the cloudiness? Seems like some panels are affected much worse than others--Thanks! Mike
      What were you cleaning it with? Did you protect the glass when you applied sealer or cleaner to the canvas ?

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        #4
        Mike, try Serious Shine made by Yachtbrite. It is an aerosol can and was recommended to me by my very good friend at Basas Marine , he said it is all they are using at the boat shows now. I tried it , i love it. It is not the same as a magic wand and may not restore your iesenglass from its cloudiness but it will be by far your best product to use . It seems more times i apply it the better the glass gets. hope this helps

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          #5
          I've used Meguire's Mirror Glaze in the past and it really brought back my last set, but these panels seem dead---feel really rough on the exterior even after cleaning. Will look at options in replacing I guess, wonder if it would be cheaper to have new eisenglass sewn into the existing canvas frames?

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            #6
            My experience over a lot of years with canvas tops has been that I don't clean the eisenglass with anything other than clean water & hose. I never rub them with anything. Also - I never roll them up. As the panes always have a fine layer of dust or salt on them, rolling them puts fine scratches that subsequently looks like ''cloud'', as you rub each 'roll' across each other. I loop them up.

            I'm not sure about different qualities of Eisenglass & I'm not sure how the thickness matters given that the issue is on the outside face of the glass. There are, however different products that substitute but I think they are much more expensive.

            My Flybridge top is now about 8 yrs old & is starting to show some signs of deterioration.

            For me, I would always just get new glass sewn in, Much cheaper.
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              #7
              It all depends on what you put in. Polycarbonate is the best but only lasts for 2-3 years

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                MikeMag wrote:
                Put on new canvas and glass from Leta's about 2 years back, and the eisenglass is already badly clouded. Seems like my last plastic lasted a lot longer. Are there different qualities or brands to look for? What really causes the cloudiness? Seems like some panels are affected much worse than others--Thanks! Mike
                That's odd I think I remember that you and I ordered right around the same time. I've never been crazy about the fit of the work, but I can't say that my eisenglass has clouded up. Same stuff I'm sure.

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                  #9
                  Sometimes when they are cloudy you can lay them out in the hot sun (pick a hot sunny day of 80-90 degrees f) and that will clear them.

                  Cloudy does not always mean scratched, especially if this happened over the winter. Water absorbs into the plastic making a cloudy appearance.

                  Not saying this is the case but try it.

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                    #10
                    Meguiars clear plastic cleaner (17) followed by Meguiars clear plastic polish (10) sure got mine looking good again.

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                      #11
                      Would using something like Strataglass (instead of regular Vinyl), keep problems like this from happening?

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                        jeff h wrote:
                        sometimes when they are cloudy you can lay them out in the hot sun (pick a hot sunny day of 80-90 degrees f) and that will clear them.

                        Cloudy does not always mean scratched, especially if this happened over the winter. Water absorbs into the plastic making a cloudy appearance.

                        Not saying this is the case but try it.
                        x2 !

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                          #13
                          My experience over a lot of years with canvas tops has been that I don't clean the eisenglass with anything other than clean water & hose. I never rub them with anything. Also - I never roll them up.
                          I completely agree on the cleaning. However I do roll mine up and don't seem to have any issue because of it.

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                            #14
                            I used Plexus, it worked well.

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                              #15
                              I use Plexus as well for quicker cleaning, the Mirror glaze for off-the -boat buffing sessions. Funny, I have noticed the panels that are regularly rolled up (front center and rears) look worst--perhaps there's my clue right there! Will try some of these other cleaning ideas. Ah well, Summer's coming, and there's a lot of days I take all the glass off anyway--thanks for the tips!

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