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    No limit on atlantic salmon-gctid822022

    Oops...

    http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-...y-as-you-want/
    Esteban
    Detroit, MI
    Former Bayliners 3218, 2859, 2252, 1952

    #2
    That happened many years ago down along Rich Passage. the fish would come right to you in search of food. Guys on the beach would through gravel out across the water and the fish would rush the shallows. You could pitch forks as many as you wanted. They don't spawn and die like our salmon and will devastate a fishery if not stopped.
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      #3
      More than just oops! I'm frustrated because I'm stuck in dry dock until the Doctor releases me. If I weren't I'd be on my way right now.
      P/C Pete
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        #4
        And THAT is why fish farming is illegal in Alaska.

        You can farm shellfish, seaweed, algae but no fish.
        Boatless at this time

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          #5
          I don't eat farmed salmon, though lots of articles have been written about the sustainability, health and what would happen if they got loose on the west coast.

          This article describes the company and what DOE thinks about the whole fish farming aquaculture industry. While the jury is still out as to the question of disease, they are still researching whether it will infect the native species. Most researchers and scientists working on the issue seem to believe that the infected salmon will merely become another species dinner.

          For those interested, on August 29, the company who owns most of the fish pens on the US and Canadian coast, 'Icicle' is putting on a 'town hall' at the Sequim Transit center. They will be talking to us about their plans, and will be taking our comments into consideration when deciding where to place them. I will be attending.

          So, if anyone desires to make a comment to them, post your remarks here and I will present them at the meeting. Only ask that you include some relatable fact in your comment, not just an 'I don't like it'.

          I will also post their proposal and their offering for you to read after the meeting. Should be an interesting one.
          "B on D C", is a 1989 2459 Trophy Offshore HT, OMC 5.7L, Cobra OD, Yamaha 15hp kicker. Lots of toys! I'm no mechanic, just a blue water sailer and woodworker who loves deep sea fishing.
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            #6
            "Alaskanmutt" post=822079 wrote:
            And THAT is why fish farming is illegal in Alaska.

            You can farm shellfish, seaweed, algae but no fish.
            Sadly, the market is driving this industry. Personally, with our hatcheries at only 1/10 of what they could produce, I'm frustrated the powers that be wouldn't say no to the farms and yes to hatcheries. However, they believe that Atlantic salmon won't cross-breed, where hatcheries produce an inferior fish compared to our wild stocks. Strange that they wouldn't have looked in the streets and salmon beds to see there are hatchery fish already spawning with our wild stocks.
            "B on D C", is a 1989 2459 Trophy Offshore HT, OMC 5.7L, Cobra OD, Yamaha 15hp kicker. Lots of toys! I'm no mechanic, just a blue water sailer and woodworker who loves deep sea fishing.
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            HAM: KE7TTR
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            BoD Puget Sound Anglers North Olympic Peninsula Chapter
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              #7
              They'll be hanging around that general area for a long time. They have no real sense of "home" so they'll just wander around and maybe make for fresh water, but its a pretty small number in the scale of things.
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                #8
                Not sure there but here they use local stock for the eggs and milt, They hatch 3.5 million a year (or so) most they let go in the rivers they came from to boost low runs, some have been used to imprint in rivers where the natural run has been decimated thus returning the run. After a year in the wild I am not sure you can tell the difference between a natural run and a hatchery fish.
                Boatless at this time

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                  #9
                  These are a whole difference species though. They are lake breeders and won't have much luck there. They'll get predated and caught. These are mature fish that would have to make it to lakes in large numbers (and pairs) to create any problem. It's a shame they aren't forced to only farm native species
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                    #10
                    "SomeSailor" post=822088 wrote:
                    It's a shame they aren't forced to only farm native species
                    Nooooo.....! No farming! Let the hatcheries do what they were designed to do.

                    A group of us volunteer at the Dungeness Fish Hatchery. http://www.baylinerownersclub.org/in...vious posting.

                    Here are some videos of the hatchery, and in particular, the incubation room. Again, notice all the empty incubation chambers.

                    https://youtu.be/8NUDLch5iWs wrote: ...the dead ones.

                    https://youtu.be/_09DJfoVWb8 wrote: ...mpty chambers.

                    https://youtu.be/mVbbUCpYGjk wrote: ... Technician II

                    Considering farmed salmon carries many diseases and hatchery salmon doesn't, one look in my freezer will tell you which one I eat.
                    "B on D C", is a 1989 2459 Trophy Offshore HT, OMC 5.7L, Cobra OD, Yamaha 15hp kicker. Lots of toys! I'm no mechanic, just a blue water sailer and woodworker who loves deep sea fishing.
                    MMSI: 367637220
                    HAM: KE7TTR
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                    BoD Puget Sound Anglers North Olympic Peninsula Chapter
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                      #11
                      A typical Atlantic salmon farm, through the eyes of a GoPro.

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnzq...ature=youtu.be
                      "B on D C", is a 1989 2459 Trophy Offshore HT, OMC 5.7L, Cobra OD, Yamaha 15hp kicker. Lots of toys! I'm no mechanic, just a blue water sailer and woodworker who loves deep sea fishing.
                      MMSI: 367637220
                      HAM: KE7TTR
                      TDI tech diver
                      BoD Puget Sound Anglers North Olympic Peninsula Chapter
                      Kevin

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                        #12
                        "green650" post=822022 wrote:
                        Oops...

                        http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-...y-as-you-want/
                        Here's a CBC followup on the OP.

                        http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/britis...259083?cmp=rss
                        "B on D C", is a 1989 2459 Trophy Offshore HT, OMC 5.7L, Cobra OD, Yamaha 15hp kicker. Lots of toys! I'm no mechanic, just a blue water sailer and woodworker who loves deep sea fishing.
                        MMSI: 367637220
                        HAM: KE7TTR
                        TDI tech diver
                        BoD Puget Sound Anglers North Olympic Peninsula Chapter
                        Kevin

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                          #13
                          "Alaskanmutt" post=822084 wrote:
                          Not sure there but here they use local stock for the eggs and milt, They hatch 3.5 million a year (or so) most they let go in the rivers they came from to boost low runs, some have been used to imprint in rivers where the natural run has been decimated thus returning the run. After a year in the wild I am not sure you can tell the difference between a natural run and a hatchery fish.
                          Here in Seward, AK last year most of the silver salmon turned around at the mouth of the bay because the water temps were too high-54 deg at the surface at the mouth of the bay.

                          This year they cam back fat and heavy along with this years salmon and many juvenile fish.

                          We have more than a bumper run of salmon in the bay right now, stand on the beach and snag them, it is a terminal fishery, many are hatchery fish paid for by the chamber of commerce from the profits of the salmon derby.

                          Caught 5 today in 2 hours. If you never caught a silver salmon in the side or the tail, it is a real fight on a light spinning rod.
                          Pat says: DO-IT-RIGHT THE FIRST TIME!

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                            #14
                            More about the condition of the Lummi Island salmon. Would you eat these? You likely are if you are buying farmed Atlantic salmon, or ordering it in a restaurant.
                            "B on D C", is a 1989 2459 Trophy Offshore HT, OMC 5.7L, Cobra OD, Yamaha 15hp kicker. Lots of toys! I'm no mechanic, just a blue water sailer and woodworker who loves deep sea fishing.
                            MMSI: 367637220
                            HAM: KE7TTR
                            TDI tech diver
                            BoD Puget Sound Anglers North Olympic Peninsula Chapter
                            Kevin

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                              #15
                              Taking my 12 yr old out this week if nothing for the thrill of catching a 10# fish. Most likely will smoke if we catch.
                              Sean
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