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    Is anyone willing to engage in a little bit of off-season planning (dreaming?) for upcoming puget sound salmon fishing?

    Here's the deal:

    We are going to buy a 4588. We currently have a trawler that we cruise, moored in Tacoma. We fish off of it occasionally, but my wife gets very uncomfortable when I bring the boat up close to shore, especially rocks and cliffs -- you know, where the fish are. :side:

    The plan is to upgrade the 4588's dinghy, and deck it out for fishing, and this is where I'm hoping you all can add some input.

    Here are the required parameters:

    [ul]

    [li]Most likely stored on the flybridge, so weight and size are likely the primary limiting factors[/li]

    [li]Designed for puget sound salmon fishing, and occasionally crabbing & shrimping, primarily Pt. Defiance area.[/li]

    [li]Also usable as an actual dinghy, and runabout[/li]

    [li]Able to "comfortably" fish 2 adults and one kid[/li]

    [li]Able to mount fishfinder/chartplotter device[/li]

    [li]Able to mount 2 down-riggers[/li]

    [li]Under $5000 (not including electronics or fishing gear)[/li]

    [/ul]

    Wishlist Items:

    [ul]

    [li]Protection from the elements to make it a 3-season rig[/li]

    [li]Steering console[/li]

    [li]Able to fish 4 adults[/li]

    [li]Porta-potty location[/li]

    [/ul]
    Thanks,
    Matt B.
    2002 Bayliner 4788
    Previously: 1984 34' CHB, 1986 28' Bayliner Contessa, 1986 Catalina 30, 1976 Catalina 28
    https://mvcesc.wordpress.com/

    #2
    There is no crab around PT defiance area :S
    Joon, Kathy, Jaden & Tristan
    Uniflite 42 AC, DD 671N
    93 3058 sold
    92 2855 (day boat)
    91 Fourwinns 205 (lake boat)
    Longbranch WA
    Life is Good

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      #3
      Here are the required parameters: ÔÇóMost likely stored on the flybridge, so weight and size are likely the primary limiting factors

      ÔÇóDesigned for puget sound salmon fishing, and occasionally crabbing & shrimping, primarily Pt. Defiance area.

      ÔÇóAlso usable as an actual dinghy, and runabout

      ÔÇóAble to "comfortably" fish 2 adults and one kid

      ÔÇóAble to mount fishfinder/chartplotter device

      ÔÇóAble to mount 2 down-riggers

      ÔÇóUnder $5000 (not including electronics or fishing gear)

      Wishlist Items: ÔÇóProtection from the elements to make it a 3-season rig

      ÔÇóSteering console

      ÔÇóAble to fish 4 adults

      ÔÇóPorta-potty location

      Perhaps consider towing the rig - its not going to be lifted onto the boat deck of a 45.
      Northport NY

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        #4
        I haven't checked regulations for legality, but I've caught crab in quartemaster harbor in years past...
        Thanks,
        Matt B.
        2002 Bayliner 4788
        Previously: 1984 34' CHB, 1986 28' Bayliner Contessa, 1986 Catalina 30, 1976 Catalina 28
        https://mvcesc.wordpress.com/

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          #5
          Hi Matt

          If you fulfill your "wish" list dinghy it won't fit and davit won't lift it.....however you could tow a very nice "Dinhgy"

          Good luck Brad
          Brad & Sharon
          Lady Jake
          1985 4550 EH 700TI /Twin Disc 502
          LaConner,Wa. (summer)
          2003 Scout CC 24' W/225 Yamaha
          kailua Kona,Hi (Winter)

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            #6
            "mattkab" post=808868 wrote:
            I haven't checked regulations for legality, but I've caught crab in quartemaster harbor in years past...
            We were moored at Foss harbor last year, had my pots out almost everyday.

            Crabbing around there simply sucks especially compared to up north Mukilteo/ Whidbey.

            http://s1324.photobucket.com/user/ju...jpeg[/IMG]

            Sounds like you need a Whaler.
            Joon, Kathy, Jaden & Tristan
            Uniflite 42 AC, DD 671N
            93 3058 sold
            92 2855 (day boat)
            91 Fourwinns 205 (lake boat)
            Longbranch WA
            Life is Good

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              #7
              "mattkab" post=808864 wrote:
              Is anyone willing to engage in a little bit of off-season planning (dreaming?) for upcoming puget sound salmon fishing?

              Here's the deal:

              We are going to buy a 4588. We currently have a trawler that we cruise, moored in Tacoma. We fish off of it occasionally, but my wife gets very uncomfortable when I bring the boat up close to shore, especially rocks and cliffs -- you know, where the fish are. :side:

              The plan is to upgrade the 4588's dinghy, and deck it out for fishing, and this is where I'm hoping you all can add some input.

              Here are the required parameters:

              [ul]

              [li]Most likely stored on the flybridge, so weight and size are likely the primary limiting factors[/li]

              [li]Designed for puget sound salmon fishing, and occasionally crabbing & shrimping, primarily Pt. Defiance area.[/li]

              [li]Also usable as an actual dinghy, and runabout[/li]

              [li]Able to "comfortably" fish 2 adults and one kid[/li]

              [li]Able to mount fishfinder/chartplotter device[/li]

              [li]Able to mount 2 down-riggers[/li]

              [li]Under $5000 (not including electronics or fishing gear)[/li]

              [/ul]

              Wishlist Items:

              [ul]

              [li]Protection from the elements to make it a 3-season rig[/li]

              [li]Steering console[/li]

              [li]Able to fish 4 adults[/li]

              [li]Porta-potty location[/li]

              [/ul]
              Yikes! That's quite the list! Mind posting a photo of your boat so we can see where you want to put it?

              I've had a few dingies, and I can tell you, there is no room on one for even a porta-potty. Suggest you use a blanket and a bucket.

              IMHO, I think your parameters are a tad reaching. Helm, fish finder, crab pots, and 4 people? If you even get close to that, you will need a boom or crane to get it on your boat.

              Had a 9'4" Boston Whaler with a 15hp OB that weighed a ton! Once we even put a crab pot on, there was no room for a second person. I did, however, fish and crab off it, ...but I sure wouldn't take it out into Puget Sound. I had clips on the swim platform fixed to its side rails so it could swing up onto when we bought her, but we had to remove the motor and tank first to use them. Even then, that thing was HEAVY! And with a 15hp, I had to hang onto the the bowline or I'd land up toppling out the back if I took off too quickly. However, I swear I could reach 30mph with it! But with 2 people on it, it strained to get on plane. I eventually took the swim platform clips off and sold them to my berth neighbor.

              [attachment]36251 wrote:
              MSISTender.jpg[/attachment]

              Next was an 11' RIB that was much lighter, but still had a very limited amount of space. It wouldn't go on the swim platform, and I hated it on the deck, so we towed it behind. I did some fishing off it, but was always concerned about roughing up the bladders pulling crab pots and lines over the sides. Neither one had room for a helm, .........just a small bucket. :S

              So, for 4 adults to fish the strait, you are looking at least a 14'er IF the seas are calm, though an 16' would be much safer. Now you are back to the boom or crane.

              BTW, these are all open boats, but you could likely get some kind of Bimini put on it. Even then, to get one to protect you and yours from the elements, I doubt $5,000 will buy much.
              "B on D C", is a 1989 2459 Trophy Offshore HT, OMC 5.7L, Cobra OD, Yamaha 15hp kicker. Lots of toys! I'm no mechanic, just a blue water sailer and woodworker who loves deep sea fishing.
              MMSI: 367637220
              HAM: KE7TTR
              TDI tech diver
              BoD Puget Sound Anglers North Olympic Peninsula Chapter
              Kevin

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                #8
                Just found this photo on YachtWorld. Looks like this is about what you'd be able to put up there, as I'm sure they too would have bought the biggest dingy they could to fit there.


                "B on D C", is a 1989 2459 Trophy Offshore HT, OMC 5.7L, Cobra OD, Yamaha 15hp kicker. Lots of toys! I'm no mechanic, just a blue water sailer and woodworker who loves deep sea fishing.
                MMSI: 367637220
                HAM: KE7TTR
                TDI tech diver
                BoD Puget Sound Anglers North Olympic Peninsula Chapter
                Kevin

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                  #9
                  Hi Kevin

                  If that Achilles is the 12'6 their pushing the weight limit of that davit/crane if memory serves its rated at 500lb .just the motor and boat is at 400 lb,before anything else,batt,fuel,steering console,seats,gear....I've seen more than one 45 that ripped the crane off.

                  We have a 12"6 Achilles w/25hp however I upgraded our crane years ago....just a little info.to pass along.
                  Brad & Sharon
                  Lady Jake
                  1985 4550 EH 700TI /Twin Disc 502
                  LaConner,Wa. (summer)
                  2003 Scout CC 24' W/225 Yamaha
                  kailua Kona,Hi (Winter)

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                    #10
                    Thanks everyone for their input... I was worried that the answers would be that I'm over-shooting my wishlist.

                    What about something like this 12' aluminum runabout:

                    [img ]http://www.duratechboats.com/pb/wp_f1bdb4da/images/img3134846eb26250eecf.jpg[/img]

                    While there's no portapotty, I can see putting bimini/dodger on it to get some protection from the elements.... not sure what something like this would weigh though. Probably pushing 500lbs if I had to guess.
                    Thanks,
                    Matt B.
                    2002 Bayliner 4788
                    Previously: 1984 34' CHB, 1986 28' Bayliner Contessa, 1986 Catalina 30, 1976 Catalina 28
                    https://mvcesc.wordpress.com/

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                      #11
                      "mattkab" post=808923 wrote:
                      Thanks everyone for their input... I was worried that the answers would be that I'm over-shooting my wishlist.

                      What about something like this 12' aluminum runabout:

                      [img ]http://www.duratechboats.com/pb/wp_f1bdb4da/images/img3134846eb26250eecf.jpg[/img]

                      While there's no portapotty, I can see putting bimini/dodger on it to get some protection from the elements.... not sure what something like this would weigh though. Probably pushing 500lbs if I had to guess.
                      IMO, indeed, you are likely pushing 500. It would also be a very uncomfortable boat for even 3 people fishing, but it would work good for 2 people.
                      "B on D C", is a 1989 2459 Trophy Offshore HT, OMC 5.7L, Cobra OD, Yamaha 15hp kicker. Lots of toys! I'm no mechanic, just a blue water sailer and woodworker who loves deep sea fishing.
                      MMSI: 367637220
                      HAM: KE7TTR
                      TDI tech diver
                      BoD Puget Sound Anglers North Olympic Peninsula Chapter
                      Kevin

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                        #12
                        "While there's no portapotty, I can see putting bimini/dodger on it to get some protection from the elements.... not sure what something like this would weigh though. Probably pushing 500lbs if I had to guess."

                        On the 4588 #500 is really pushing the limit given that the ratings were aggressive when the boat was new 30 years back. Many of these 45 davits have a real problem holding up much less than that 500#'s without some real repairs and/or modifications. Do not confuse this davit with the ones on the 47 which share zero parts and can easily lift 750's.

                        Weight of the tinny is likely near 650#'s - hull, batteries, engine, fluids, seats, controls, pumps, fuel, Bimini, safety gear, ground tackle, etc.
                        Northport NY

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                          #13
                          The Livingston makes a pretty good fishing/crabbing platform. It doesn't rock around as much as a rhib because it's a cat.




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                          Esteban
                          B-ham!
                          Former Bayliners 3218, 2859, 2252, 1952

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                            #14
                            Easy solution to your problem.Leave the captain at the house when the fish bug hits you.Or give her lots of martinis before you go fishing.Just saying

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