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    Vinyl on my seats going black....help!-gctid401293

    Please help me with my next step.

    I have taken my seats to 3 upholstery shops and have been told my seat vinyl is not marine grade, that is why they are going black and cracking. I have had the boat for 3 years, and bought it new. It sits under cover, and I know how to look after it.

    I was told by Bayliner (Rich Gentry), that I used a solvent on my seats.......I am not an idiot. Why is the blue vinyl the problem, and not the white?

    My question is, what should I do next? Who do I speak to to get this matter resolved?

    I am not adverse to going the legal route, but am hoping common sense prevails.

    #2
    So this is a 2009? Well unfortunately I don't believe Bayliner will cover it. If my memory serves me (hold on cause usually it does not), the hull and interior warranty is only 1 year anyway, it's usually the motor that's 3 years or 5 or whatever depending on what you get, when you get it, where you get it, etc...

    So, basically sounds like an upholstery job is in your future

    I have a 2006 160OB and my upholstery is holding up as far as fading and cracking is concerned but it's worn in the corners and has a few pin holes in it here and there. And on one side of my aft bench seat there is a rip I had to patch with tape to stop it from getting worse (in my sheet metal terms) similar to a stop drill type fix.

    From what I understand, Bayliner uses the cheapest thinnest crap they can buy in bulk. I use mothers rubber and vinyl marine cleaner on mine, seems to work fantastic.

    http://www.mothers.com/02_products/91424.html

    Got it at Bass Pro

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      #3
      Have any pictures? And how is the boat stored?

      As for warranty or any recourse with bayliner - I doubt it after 3 years.

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        #4
        The boat is covered and stored indoors. I have no idea how to post photos on here.

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          #5
          If I am just going to get the same sub-standard skins from Bayliner, where can I go to get better quality ones? I have heard of a place in WA - Canvas Plus?

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            #6
            biggles0106 wrote:
            The boat is covered and stored indoors. I have no idea how to post photos on here.
            Might want to reconsider covering in doors unless your cover is very well ventilated.

            As for the pictures - just click the Insert Image button and you can upload them from your computer

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              #7
              oldjeep wrote:
              Might want to reconsider covering in doors unless your cover is very well ventilated.
              Hey good point, maybe the black is mold? Yuck. I keep my boat in the garage and only keep it covered when traveling long distances on the highway. This is primarily out of laziness, I found out later that it's actually better to not cover the boat when stored indoors.

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                #8
                I had the same problem. I was told from the vinyl being exposed to the sun deteriorated the vinyl, or at least helped the vinyl to degrade. Bayliner does not use high quality vinyl, and a bow rider provides no protection from the sun. My vinyl is much better then the original, I also customized my vinyl. I had blue piping added instead of the white piping on the seats. I was also told to use only spray nine at 50% strength, and always keep the boat covered when not in use. It is beyond the warranty.
                Gregg
                2006 225 BR
                XT Package
                5.0 MPI
                Alpha I Gen II
                39.41130 N
                76.35131W

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                  #9
                  Mines a 2006, it sat uncovered in Arizona for about 3 years. I am not sure if outside or not.

                  When i imported it to NZ the upper surfaces of the Fi Glass areas needed a good cut and polish so it has seen a fair amount of sun.

                  It had less than 20 hour on it so not used much at all.

                  It came up perfect. The vinyl is fine. The carpet had rotted so needed to be replace and it had no covers so I would think it has had a good sun bashing.

                  I think it is reasonably dry down there but would think the sun would be bad.

                  Its happy now and has a full set of covers and is undercover but outside.

                  I would be a bit unhappy if after 3 years this had happened to a brand new boat I purchased. Warranty or not I would be having some more words with your agent.

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                    #10
                    Macca wrote:
                    Mines a 2006, it sat uncovered in Arizona for about 3 years. I am not sure if outside or not.
                    Doesn't make a real difference. Even if they left the drain plug in and it got one of our monsoon thunderstorm it will be dry again after a few days but very heavy for a short while. If it was uncovered for 3 years the vinyl will be toast, all fabric will fall apart and the fiberglass will be dull. And before I forget: the tires on the trailer will be shredded from the sun.

                    My boat is stored outdoors under a very high cover and just from 4 months of exposure you can see the impact on the outdrive paint! Just got an outdrive buddy to take care of it.

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                      #11
                      When my boat is indoors, it is uncovered! Outside, it has a breathable cover.

                      Any feedback on Canvas Plus?

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                        #12
                        kjs wrote:
                        Doesn't make a real difference. Even if they left the drain plug in and it got one of our monsoon thunderstorm it will be dry again after a few days but very heavy for a short while. If it was uncovered for 3 years the vinyl will be toast, all fabric will fall apart and the fiberglass will be dull. And before I forget: the tires on the trailer will be shredded from the sun.

                        My boat is stored outdoors under a very high cover and just from 4 months of exposure you can see the impact on the outdrive paint! Just got an outdrive buddy to take care of it.
                        It must have been cover then. The Glass is faded but cut up easy. The vinyl is fine and the out drive was like factory with the bar code sticker still on the unit.

                        I really think I got a great deal even with the shipping cost to NZ.

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                          #13
                          First in class warranty.:right And we wonder why.:thumb

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                            #14
                            biggles0106 wrote:
                            Please help me with my next step.

                            I have taken my seats to 3 upholstery shops and have been told my seat vinyl is not marine grade, that is why they are going black and cracking. I have had the boat for 3 years, and bought it new. It sits under cover, and I know how to look after it.

                            I was told by Bayliner (Rich Gentry), that I used a solvent on my seats.......I am not an idiot. Why is the blue vinyl the problem, and not the white?

                            My question is, what should I do next? Who do I speak to to get this matter resolved?

                            I am not adverse to going the legal route, but am hoping common sense prevails.
                            If it's cracking, it is almost certainly sun exposure and drying out. Have you been treating it with a vinyl protectant and storing it out of the sun?

                            Not sure what your legal recourse is out of warranty.

                            Canvas Plus is great but will not have the patterns AFAIK, you will need to send her the cushions or at the very least the skins.

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                              #15
                              Bayliner have monitored this and have asked me to phone them. I will let you know the outcome of our chat.

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