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    Winterizing Conundrum

    Hi

    So now that my little boat is all clean w/ fresh oils and AF in all of the right places (fingers crossed) I have arrived at a most vexing issue

    The drive is up so I can drive it to get it wrapped.

    But I'm told that it is not good to leave it that way all winter or I harm the bellows.

    So, once wrapped, how the heck can I possibly put the drive DOWN and remove the battery?

    Am I missing something?? :silly:

    #2
    they will leave an entry way into the boat if you ask them i have seen this done,and yes do not leave the drive unit up
    1988 flybridge trophy bayliner 2556 ,mercury 5.7 lit. OMC cobra out drive 76 hrs. on new package,
    located in ketchikan ak,name DOMINION

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      #3
      "desuch" post=827527 wrote:
      they will leave an entry way into the boat if you ask them i have seen this done,and yes do not leave the drive unit up
      Oh, even a little bowrider?

      I did not know that !

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        #4
        or, if you know there is no water left setting in it, you could tarp (or wrap?) the outdrive so it stays dry, then it doesnt matter if its up or down


        NU LIBERTE'
        Salem, OR

        1989 Bayliner 2556 Convertible
        5.7 OMC Cobra - 15.5x11 prop
        N2K equipped throughout..
        2014 Ram 3500 crew cab, 6.7 Cummins
        2007 M-3705 SLC weekend warrior, 5th wheel
        '04 Polaris Sportsman 700 -- '05 Polaris Sportsman 500 HO
        Heavy Equipment Repair and Specialty Welding

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          #5
          If you need to trailer it to be shrink wrapped and then trailer it back home or to the storage area, I'd consider just leaving it where it needs to be and tarp it instead of shrink wrapping it. Drive down.
          Wet'ever
          1989 Avanti 2955
          460 King Cobra

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            #6
            I don't know if it because we live in a lake community or lake area, but ALL the shrink wrap providers come right to your boat and wrap it doesn't matter if it is at home, garage or marina. Just cannot be in the water. I don't wrap mine, I use our mooring canvas that came with the boat as well as a "semi" customer cover from Menards I bought for about $100.00. I do store the boat indoors however. I also spread dryer sheets throughout the boat as they "allegedly" keep the kritters out, and as a benefit they keep the boat and carpet smelling fresh, it mildewy in the spring. I put them everywhere, under the seats in storage areas, bilge, gunwhales, glove box, etc. I also put a "Damp Rid" moisture catching container under both both bow seats, in the ski locker, the bilge as well as in the cabin. Captures any moisture that may be present. Last couple years, we have been the carpets cleaned in the house about the time I am detailing the boats for winter storage. I have the carpet cleaning guys clean the bowrider carpet as well as the pontoon carpet when they do the house. It ends costing about $80 more to add both boats. They use the steam extractor truck mounted system, it's amazing how much dirt comes out of the boats' carpet. It dries usually in about a day or so...I'll also have them add Scotchguard to the carpet as another layer of protection against stains from feet or spills...
            Hell, Michigan (yes we really live in a city named "Hell" in Michigan)
            2012 BR 185 - 3.0 TKS
            1999 Chaparral 233 Sunesta Ltd., 5.0 Volvo
            1985 Harris Flotebote Classic 240
            1993 Yamaha Waverunner III VXR
            1993 Yamaha Waverunner III
            1995 Yamaha Waverunner III GP
            1995 Yamaha Waverunner III VXR PRO

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              #7
              No such luk here - shrink wrapper is 30+ miles away

              Wondering if it is easy to disconnect the cylinders that lift the drive and just ease it down by hand?

              I'm all about that if it is doable?

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                #8
                Sarah, yes you can remove the retainer on the pin that holds the aft of the cylinders to the drive then slide it out. This will allow the drive to drop.

                I have seen some boats that get wrapped cover the drive to prevent water from collecting in the exhaust hub to prevent cracking from frozen water but the bellows are still flexed up as is your concern. While its best to store the boat with the bellows in a relaxed position I have see may folks not do so and get years of service. Being that the exhaust bellows gets stretched the most it is the first to fail.
                1997 Maxum 2400 SCR 5.7LX Bravo II

                Mike

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                  #9
                  "Nauti Mike" post=827558 wrote:
                  Sarah, yes you can remove the retainer on the pin that holds the aft of the cylinders to the drive then slide it out. This will allow the drive to drop.

                  I have seen some boats that get wrapped cover the drive to prevent water from collecting in the exhaust hub to prevent cracking from frozen water but the bellows are still flexed up as is your concern. While its best to store the boat with the bellows in a relaxed position I have see may folks not do so and get years of service. Being that the exhaust bellows gets stretched the most it is the first to fail.
                  correct.... by leaving the drive up thruout the winter it doesnt make the bellows any more vulnerable to failure than when the drive sets in the up position when on the trailer any other time of the year.... and, the drive doesnt have to be lifted to its maximum travel and still allow for plenty of clearance when on the trailer.


                  NU LIBERTE'
                  Salem, OR

                  1989 Bayliner 2556 Convertible
                  5.7 OMC Cobra - 15.5x11 prop
                  N2K equipped throughout..
                  2014 Ram 3500 crew cab, 6.7 Cummins
                  2007 M-3705 SLC weekend warrior, 5th wheel
                  '04 Polaris Sportsman 700 -- '05 Polaris Sportsman 500 HO
                  Heavy Equipment Repair and Specialty Welding

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                    #10
                    Where are you storing the boat ?

                    For a 10 dollar gasket you can remove the drive, leave the Rams in.

                    Store the drive in your basement. Or other secure location.
                    Be good, be happy, for tomorrow is promised to no man !

                    1994 2452, 5.0l, Alpha gen. 2 drive. Sold ! Sold ! Sold !

                    '86 / 19' Citation cuddy, Merc. 3.0L / 140 hp 86' , stringer drive. Sold ! Sold ! Sold !

                    Manalapan N.J

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                      #11
                      AAARRRGGHHHH

                      too many choices !!!

                      But Thanks ALL - I gotta think on this!

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                        #12
                        "LazyCrusr" post=827590 wrote:
                        AAARRRGGHHHH

                        too many choices !!!

                        But Thanks ALL - I gotta think on this!
                        Keep it simple and do what feels right to you.
                        1997 Maxum 2400 SCR 5.7LX Bravo II

                        Mike

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                          #13
                          1) as long as the battery is charged before closing up the boat there is no reason at all to remove it. I have 2 heavy gp 27s on my boat and all I do is charge them and then if the weather is mild during the winter, I may open up the cover and give them another mid winter charge up.

                          2) have them make a zipper door in the shrink so you can get in. That way if the boat has to be moved, you can raise the drive.

                          3) keeping the drive down, prolongs the life of the driveshaft bellows because it is in a relaxed state. I have had the OMC Cobra/Volvo SX style bellows last more than 10 years by keeping it down. Usually I take the drive off for the winter and leave it in the garage. But that is owner preference, you certainly can leave it on all winter

                          4) The other reason why its good to leave it down, is that water will not collect in the exhaust housing and potentially freeze and may crack the housing.
                          88 Four Winns 200 Horizon 4.3 OMC
                          98 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0/Selectrac
                          07 Jeep Grand Cherokee 5.7 Hemi/Quadradrive II

                          Long Island Sound Region

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                            #14
                            "Nauti Mike" post=827593 wrote:
                            "LazyCrusr" post=827590 wrote:
                            AAARRRGGHHHH

                            too many choices !!!

                            But Thanks ALL - I gotta think on this!
                            Keep it simple and do what feels right to you.
                            Agreed !!

                            I think that I am going to take the cylinders/rams off and just lower the drive

                            (oh how I wish that I had a garage!)

                            thanks everyone,,,,,I'll leave you alone now :woohoo:

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                              #15
                              Don't bother doing that, for one it is unnecessary and for another it can be tricky to get the cylinders to line up with the cross pin that goes thru the end of the drive. A drive is HEAVY and you might have to lift it up to get the rams and the cross pin all lined up. Make the shrink wrap guy put in a door leave the battery in the boat...
                              88 Four Winns 200 Horizon 4.3 OMC
                              98 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0/Selectrac
                              07 Jeep Grand Cherokee 5.7 Hemi/Quadradrive II

                              Long Island Sound Region

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