Vertical indents in hull?-gctid340849

[Guest]

Hi all, I recently looked at a 1996 1850 bayliner capri and it had what looked like vertical lines just forward of the dash on both sides of the hull (outside). It looks to me as if the formers are trying to push their way through the hull!

It is not very noticeable as such, but it's def there. Is this common on these boats? Is it thin glass........swelling timbers? mold lines? To be honest I kind of walked away from it after that without going too far into it but am curious as to what would cause it, esp if it is just a manufacturing glitch over a structural one.

Regards

[Chief_Alen]

Take some pics and post them here, i and i am sure others would like to see them.

My friend has a 93' and we took the deck out to the bare hull, and rebuilt everything. Even made new sides using the old ones as templates. We also did the same for my 86' Citation cuddy.

We also rebuilt the stringers and deck on his open bow Bayliner 15 footer.

We also dismantled a few other open bow boats, one being a boat that i needed the motor out of and is now living in my current boat.

What i am trying to convey to you is depends on where on the hull the lines are located.

There are many, many eyes here on this site and we can talk you thru inspecting the boat to see if it is a good buy or not.

[dmcb]

Without seeing it it is difficult to say what it is.

I can say this with complete certainly. The hull is not to thin. I have been around this Bayliner site for a lot of years and not once has there been a case where a hull on any Bayliner failed.

And this site is a problem magnet. If it were there we would know it.

Doug

[Guest]

hi i have come across this problem with other boats .if u look inside u may find it whear a stsinger or iner moulding is fitted as the glass dries it shrinks and u get yore line !

[Guest]

I wonder if you mean the APS step that is molded in for planning?

[Guest]

Thanks for the help so far guys. Here is a shot (poor) of the line taken with my phone. I tried to get the shadow to work in my favour to show it off as it's very hard to get on camera. You can see it in the white part of the hull. It's not a crack, more a raised line

Looking at it again today, it's not as obvious as I first thought.....but it's there.

The rest of the boat is fairly rough and needs TLC, but the only concern to me I see is this. The timbers and floor (the bits I can get to) "seem" ok but am aware that you really have to open it up to be sure, something I really don't want to do. I have had boats before, and have rebuilt an old savage escort which I still have but we need more room, hence the bigger boat option. I did all the work bar the new transom and floor which were done by a guy on the side for me (he usually lays up yachts for a company) I was his apprentice through the job! He has moved onto other things now, so he can't help me with any advice with this unfortunately.

MR HAWKINS wrote:
hi i have come across this problem with other boats .if u look inside u may find it whear a stsinger or iner moulding is fitted as the glass dries it shrinks and u get yore line !

This is what I am thinking. Question is how common is it on these models?

btw, 4.3 L carbed V6. Looks a bit rusty in sections on the exhaust manifolds, but apart from the engine looks normal for a boat of this age. I noted a colour code on the engine re: oils etc, and it showed a colour for coolant. Sounds like they run a heat exchanger? I'm more an outboard guy, so sorry if it sounds like a stupid Q!

It is an LS model. Where would I find out deciphering the "LS" designations and the like when looking at these boats

Also what sort of speed and consumption am I looking at? Mainly for skiing, family days etc, but nice to know top speed!

I am also looking at an 01 model 21Ft 5.7 litre capri, but haven't been able to go take a look at that one, and he might be too tight on the price anyway. Any tips on those models would be appreciated too.

Thanks

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[Guest]

couple more images for you, you may pick something up not noticed by me, good or bad.

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[Guest]

that is interesting, I think I have seen something like that before...

[Guest]

I wouldn't describe those as "indents" but anyway ......I have the same thing on my boat right where the bulk heads are joined to the outer hull. Just visibly unappealing really.

[Guest]

ok, maybe outdents then....

Visually unappealing I can deal with, I look in the mirror every day! question is will the next guy when time comes to sell the thing? That's what I have to work out.

[msd58]

jules verne wrote:
Thanks for the help so far guys. Here is a shot (poor) of the line taken with my phone. I tried to get the shadow to work in my favour to show it off as it's very hard to get on camera. You can see it in the white part of the hull. It's not a crack, more a raised line

Looking at it again today, it's not as obvious as I first thought.....but it's there.

The rest of the boat is fairly rough and needs TLC, but the only concern to me I see is this. The timbers and floor (the bits I can get to) "seem" ok but am aware that you really have to open it up to be sure, something I really don't want to do. I have had boats before, and have rebuilt an old savage escort which I still have but we need more room, hence the bigger boat option. I did all the work bar the new transom and floor which were done by a guy on the side for me (he usually lays up yachts for a company) I was his apprentice through the job! He has moved onto other things now, so he can't help me with any advice with this unfortunately.

This is what I am thinking. Question is how common is it on these models?

btw, 4.3 L carbed V6. Looks a bit rusty in sections on the exhaust manifolds, but apart from the engine looks normal for a boat of this age. I noted a colour code on the engine re: oils etc, and it showed a colour for coolant. Sounds like they run a heat exchanger? I'm more an outboard guy, so sorry if it sounds like a stupid Q!

It is an LS model. Where would I find out deciphering the "LS" designations and the like when looking at these boats

Also what sort of speed and consumption am I looking at? Mainly for skiing, family days etc, but nice to know top speed!

I am also looking at an 01 model 21Ft 5.7 litre capri, but haven't been able to go take a look at that one, and he might be too tight on the price anyway. Any tips on those models would be appreciated too.

Thanks

Looks like something in the hull mold made those

[Guest]

hi that woz whot i ment u will probly find nearly all that model are like that only difrence being it wont show so much on a white boat.c if u can look at another example at a dealer even if it to expensive just to compear the mouldings.comon guys one of u must have one is yores the same ? just had a look at ya pics the decal on the engine cover duz show coolant this decal is found on moast mercrusier engines of that age weather thay have closed cooling or not.that engine duz not. the manifolds are rusty presuming thay have not been changed.thay are six years old.personaly id be looking to change them normal thing the riser will crack on the inside you go out boating engine runs like a dream.u moor up turn engine off water goes down the exhast and it wont start again as water duz not compress ! the LX is probrobly fitted with a four barell carb either a rochester or a webber that would be 205hp the two barrel is a 190hp we use to sell glastron gt185 with the 190hp 4.3 and thay would do an indicated 60mph

[msd58]

MR HAWKINS wrote:
hi that woz whot i ment u will probly find nearly all that model are like that only difrence being it wont show so much on a white boat.c if u can look at another example at a dealer even if it to expensive just to compear the mouldings.comon guys one of u must have one is yores the same ? just had a look at ya pics the decal on the engine cover duz show coolant this decal is found on moast mercrusier engines of that age weather thay have closed cooling or not.that engine duz not. the manifolds are rusty presuming thay have not been changed.thay are six years old.personaly id be looking to change them normal thing the riser will crack on the inside you go out boating engine runs like a dream.u moor up turn engine off water goes down the exhast and it wont start again as water duz not compress ! the LX is probrobly fitted with a four barell carb either a rochester or a webber that would be 205hp the two barrel is a 190hp we use to sell glastron gt185 with the 190hp 4.3 and thay would do an indicated 60mph

Spell Check anyone?

[Guest]

Not sure where that boat is but that sure looks like a lot of rust to me. Not just the risers but the water pump also. Makes you wonder if that boat has seen a lot of salt water use with out proper care. Honestly I sold my 96 Capri ss last year due to stringer damage andit looked mint the lines on the hull may not be a big deal but I had nothing like that on my dark red hull, but it was a little longer boat. If you aren't looking at a great deal I would keep looking. If it a deal then tap the flooring under rear seats and deck on both sides of engine compartment. Any thus then run real fast. That's what killed my summer.

[Guest]

Except for the surface rust on some bolts, she looks fairly clean. Upside about the hull "pucker", it's mostly below the waterline (from an esthetic standpoint)

The 80's Bayliners suffered from floor rot just in front of the starboard jump seat. Most likely from boarding the boat from the swim ladder/step. That's always a good place to start.