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    BROKEN BUNKS AFTER HARD BRAKING-gctid818411

    Was heading out to the lake and had to hit the brakes hard because was only doing the person in front of me decided to make a quick right turn, was only doing about 20mph.

    So after hitting the brakes the boat slide a few feet forward on the trailer broke the bunks and bent and pushed the winch forward also broke the tie down strapss. Now just needing to figure out the best and easiest way to jack the boat off the trailer to replace the bunks and to replace the winch.

    Does anyone have any ideas on how to do this or is able to help. Live I the Spokane Valley.


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    #2
    You are lucky you were going slow. I can tell you most trailer whinch posts are inadequate. Pretty much to the point of unsafe in a hard breaking situation.

    I live in spokane nine mile long lake area. I can probably help you. I have every thing to do it with including removing the boat. However you will need to do most of it yourself my time is limited. I can coach you if you need it or help some. Maybe we can do some time trading .

    Notice the winch post on the trailer I have that is 4x6x 1/4 tubing it will hold the boat. Boat might get damaged in a heard break situation but it won't end up on the back of your truck I built that trailer about 10 years ago.




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    1989 Avanti 3450 Sunbridge
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    MV Mar-Y-Sol
    1979 Bayliner Conquest 3150 hardtop ocean express.
    Twin chevy 350's inboard
    Ben- Jamin
    spokane Washington

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      #3
      I just more I guess need to jack the boat up enough to maybe brace the broken bunks, to get it to the dealer and have them fix it. And have them check the boat and make sure there is no damage to the boat. with the bunks broken where they are I'm not sure it's safe to trailer it to far. I will say that I am open to the help and possible trading some time. The othe part is I need to try and get it done by this coming Friday.
      FISHING ISNT A MATTER OF LIFE AND DEATH ITS MUCH MORE IMPORTANT.
      2016 Bayliner 195 deckboat
      220hp 4.3 MPI

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        #4
        Good luck with that time line here in spokane. .

        Give me a call if you like. 9937747

        If you have other boat damage and such and hope for a insurance claim don't touch it until they see it.

        I don't think you can effectively work on bunks with the boat in the trailer. As far as jacking it up floor jack and blocks of wood. Cant really.get it off that way though.

        I remove my boat with this



        Or I can use my giant saw horse.

        Or this

        1989 Avanti 3450 Sunbridge
        twin 454's
        MV Mar-Y-Sol
        1979 Bayliner Conquest 3150 hardtop ocean express.
        Twin chevy 350's inboard
        Ben- Jamin
        spokane Washington

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          #5
          Dam, you really got some brakes there. I'd suggest in the future using extra heavy duty stern tie downs from now on.

          You should be able to lift the front of the boat enough to take the weight off it using a heavy duty tuck load strap. Wrap it under there secure it and lift with a chain fall . A decent come along would even work. If you have a handy tractor or neighbor that does that would be even better. A tractor bucket would easily and gently lift and hold it . I sure wouldn't get under there to do the work without multiple safeties in place but you should be able to fix bunks without getting between the trailer and boat.

          If you have yet to slide it back on place you can use a car trolley jack and a piece of wood to spread the weight . Just jack it where you have enough space to pull slowly ahead till the jack reaches an axle or crossmember then just reset the jack again and continue. Till it's back in place.

          Here's the smart way. Back it in the drink till it floats free then tie it up while you make your repairs. Put it out on an anchor even. Then fix whatever needs to be done with the bunk. No tractor or slings needed:P You can fix the winch and related things as needed with the boat on there afterward.

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            #6
            I just replaced my bunks. I drove to the ramp on a quiet week day. Floated the boat off, tied it to the pier and replaced the bunks and hardware. I would be hesitant trying to jack the boat up, unless you know exactly what you are doing. I have a 2006 225br.

            Good Luck
            Gregg
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              #7
              That boat and trailer look to be almost new! I would get the insurance involved before doing anything, there looks to bee some damage to the bow that may need more than gelcoat!!!!

              Just my 2c!

              Don
              1995 Maxum 2400 SCR LUNA DE MIEL
              1988 Bayliner 2455 (sold)
              1976 Tahiti 16.5 I/O (sold)
              10 ft livingston (lost in fire )
              1987 18ft. Seaswirl cuddy (lost in fire)
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                #8
                I have to agree. Let insurance handle it. If you had stern straps on there and they broke. I would be worried of damage to the stern. It takes lot to break those strips. If you did not have stern straps. Then you need to get some. That will stop the boat from sliding forward. It looks to me that you did not have stern straps which allowed to boat to slide at that slow of a speed.
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                  #9
                  "Don77" post=818427 wrote:
                  That boat and trailer look to be almost new! I would get the insurance involved before doing anything, there looks to bee some damage to the bow that may need more than gelcoat!!!!

                  Just my 2c!

                  Don
                  +1

                  IMO the winch post doesn't look strong enough and should have kept the boat from moving that far forward, never seen one set up like that :huh: Transom straps won't really keep a boat from moving forward as they typically attach to the trailer forward of the transom stern ties.

                  This is how I've seen most winch posts set up.

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                    #10
                    "Mrwalleyeman" post=818417 wrote:
                    I just more I guess need to jack the boat up enough to maybe brace the broken bunks, to get it to the dealer and have them fix it. And have them check the boat and make sure there is no damage to the boat. with the bunks broken where they are I'm not sure it's safe to trailer it to far.
                    How about using a bunch of wood blocks to hold the boat up like they do at a shipyard, then let the air out of the trailer tires to lower it enough so you can shore up the broken bunks. Then pump air back into the tires.

                    "builderdude" post=818434 wrote:
                    Transom straps won't really keep a boat from moving forward as they typically attach to the trailer forward of the transom stern ties.
                    Straps can't only offer resistance parallel to the straps. So all transom straps can do is prevent the boat from flying up from the trailer (like if you drive over a pothole. They can't stop it from sliding forward or back, at least not until the boat has slid so far forward or back that the strap is now at a significant angle instead of straight up.
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                      #11
                      It is a new boat. Just purchased it in March of this year.

                      I had a buddy of mine come over who use to work for a boat dealer here in Spokane and he said he has only seen something similar to this once before. After him and I, and my wife talked we all agreed to have the insurance get involved.

                      We did have the transom tie down straps on and one of them broke, the other one was so tight that it was really hard to loosen up. The winch post was normal, but when the boat slid forward it pushed it over like that, the bow hook was under the roller with the winch to the front ( see pic). Also the only actual damage that is on the boat is right below the bow eye a little 1/2 inch spot (can't get pic because the winch post is in the way.) that looks like it got through the gel coat into the fiberglass. The other spots are just photo anomalies. But like someone else pointed out there could be damage to the transom from this, and that' one of the reasons why we got insurance involved. But on a good note I had better luck than someone launching at Farragut State Park (Lake Pend Oreille Idaho )yesterday had a bad time at the launch.


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                        #12
                        I would replce that bow stop on that trailer with something like builderdude has! That is similar to the one I have on my trailer!

                        If you bought in March of this year I would also get the selling dealer involved!

                        I have never seen a bow stop that looked that flimsy in my 40+ years boating!

                        Don
                        1995 Maxum 2400 SCR LUNA DE MIEL
                        1988 Bayliner 2455 (sold)
                        1976 Tahiti 16.5 I/O (sold)
                        10 ft livingston (lost in fire )
                        1987 18ft. Seaswirl cuddy (lost in fire)
                        "Is it better to be on a boat thinking about God, or be in church thinking about boating?"

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                          #13
                          You should not rely on the winch post/bow stop alone. Always attach a heavy duty cable, chain, or strap from the bow eye down to the trailer frame.
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                            #14
                            So our insurance is going to cover this as long as the repairs are going to be more than our deductible. And after talking to the dealership I have to get the boat and trailer to them to get things rolling for the repair. But the issue is making sure the boat won't move forward and the keel hitting the trailer frame (its only like 3/4 of an inch above the trailer right now. Then also towards the stern of the boat it s about an inch above the frame of the trailer.

                            Norton Rider we did have the winch strap and the safety cable attached.

                            Also had the tie down straps on the stern but one broke.
                            FISHING ISNT A MATTER OF LIFE AND DEATH ITS MUCH MORE IMPORTANT.
                            2016 Bayliner 195 deckboat
                            220hp 4.3 MPI

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                              #15
                              IMO you need more clearance between the keel and the cross beams of the trailer. Norton Rider is referring to an additional safety strap/chain that connect to the bow eye and runs aft down to part of the trailer frame. Most guys don't have that but if it was installed on your set up your boat wouldn't have slid forward like it did.
                              Dave
                              Edmonds, WA
                              "THE FIX"
                              '93 2556
                              Carbureted 383 Vortec-Bravo II 2.0:1 18 1/4x19 P

                              The rebuild of my 2556 https://www.baylinerownersclub.org/f...76?view=thread
                              Misc. projects thread
                              https://www.baylinerownersclub.org/f...56-gctid789773

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