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    Trophy fish boxes

    Hi everyone
    ​​​​​​ 1st thing looking for some tips on weather stripping or some sort of gasket to use around fish boxes as many of you know they tend to fill up with rain water.
    2nd thing is the macerate pump. Mine doesn’t pump anything out I can hear it humming away but nothing coming out the hull fitting it may be just plugged a lot of pine needles around where I am. My issue is getting to it. It seems to me I need to me I need to become stretch Armstrong or get a trained monkey to crawl into get at it. I’m toying with two ideas
    1 installing an access panel where the jump seat goes this should allow me to get to it.
    2 installing another pump in a more accessible location with new hoses removing as much of the old hoses as I can and just leaving the old one in and if I ever have to pull the motor I can remove the old one then.
    I’m leaning towards #1. If the pump is just plugged a panel would be a lot cheaper than a new pump and hoses and I probably could also install a removable tray and have some more storage. Any suggestions would be appreciated
    ​​​​​​ I guess I should mention it’s a 1991 Trophy 2352 Mercury 5.7

    #2
    im not sure if the boxes you have for trophy fish are much different than the one that I have that only seem to hold minnows, but as for sealing them better, bulb seal applied to the underside of the lid works great. any full service RV store will carry self stick bulb seal... first, clean the surface well with alchol, then measure and mark where the seal needs to be applied so that when the lid is on, the seal will land on the coaming of the box opening..... then peel and stick

    IF you are NOT going use it as a fish box, once the lid is sealed so water doesnt run in, its better to remove the pump and let any residual moisture run in to the bilge....

    but the pump bayliner used in the fish box is a very low volume pump.. but it should be a cartridge pump, which is easier to disassemble and clean than the regular style of pumps are.

    also look at the discharge hose, as Ive seen these get clogged with debris because the low volume pump doesnt seem to have the power/flow to lift particles up the discharge loop so it can get out of the hose...


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      #3
      I purchased "M-D Building Products 1025 All-Climate Auto and Marine 17-Feet Weather Seal Strip, Black" and applied it to the edge of the fish box and battery hatch. Works very well no more rain water filling them up. Just cleaned off the surface with mineral sprites and applied it to the highest part. Keeps them from rattling also. When I take it out of storage I'll post of picture.
      2004 Trophy 2359
      5.7 liter Carb
      Alpha
      15 hp Merc Kicker

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        #4
        Those pumps are Johnston, with replaceable cartridges. They are very awkward to get at, but I was able to get at mine by removing the battery, using a mirror and flashlight to spot where the cartridge release is, using my 3rd arm, and then taking it out. Keep in mind, these are NOT macerator pumps. They are just water pumps. It takes very little to plug these units. Make sure that you have the debris filter on the tank side of the outlet. I have used compressed air blown in through the port on the side of the hull with some success. Don't run that pump when it's plugged. If the fuse doesn't trip, you will burn it out. Due to the lack of space back there, adding a macerator pump and making the necessary hose connections will be very difficult. The existing pump is attached to where you're thinking of cutting the hole.
        Bob Hawes.
        Kelowna, B.C.
        1998 Trophy 2052 WA
        4.3 Vortec, A1 G2

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          #5
          Originally posted by bhawes View Post
          Those pumps are Johnston, with replaceable cartridges. They are very awkward to get at, but I was able to get at mine by removing the battery, using a mirror and flashlight to spot where the cartridge release is, using my 3rd arm, and then taking it out. Keep in mind, these are NOT macerator pumps. They are just water pumps. It takes very little to plug these units. Make sure that you have the debris filter on the tank side of the outlet. I have used compressed air blown in through the port on the side of the hull with some success. Don't run that pump when it's plugged. If the fuse doesn't trip, you will burn it out. Due to the lack of space back there, adding a macerator pump and making the necessary hose connections will be very difficult. The existing pump is attached to where you're thinking of cutting the hole.
          Bob, where did you buy the cartridges? I just bought a 2052 that has both pumps broken from water being left in the tank and freezing. Thanks!

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            #6
            I have found replacement cartridge on Amazon. I can reach both of mine, I take the hoses of in the winter to let the water drain into bildge. I have a 1998 2352. Yours sounds like it's different location.

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              #7
              Sorry Disco, I just came back on-line. My local Marina had the pump cartridges in stock. I believe that they are quite common.
              Mkwns, I'd like to know how you got those hoses off! Mine are only about a foot long and are in-line. The hose would have to collapse on itself to be removed, and they are very stiff. They also seem bonded to the male fitting both on the tank and the transom. Also I'm not sure that the area below the hoses actually drains into the bilge (at least on my Trophy), so I'd be hesitant to let any water run down there.
              Just as an FYI. When I put my boat to sleep for the winter, I totally drain the lockers and then pour about a quart of RV antifreeze into the locker. I then run the pump until the pink liquid is being ejected from the drain area. That ensures that the pump housing is full of antifreeze. I've been doing this for many years and it has survived -25. I would remove the cartridges if they were easily accessible, but they are quite difficult remove and replace.
              Bob Hawes.
              Kelowna, B.C.
              1998 Trophy 2052 WA
              4.3 Vortec, A1 G2

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                #8
                Here is the photos with the seal on the fish boxes. The has been in place for 2 years now and work great on keeping water out..
                2004 Trophy 2359
                5.7 liter Carb
                Alpha
                15 hp Merc Kicker

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                  BackEddie commented
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                  Thanks for the pics I will be looking into this project soon. Today I am waking my boat from it’s winter sleep I will take some measurements to see how much I need

                #9
                If it is the original pump it may be a bellows pump (yes they did use those in the early 90's. They had a strainer on the intake side.
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                  #10
                  I have a 2002 and have the same problem with water getting into the fish boxes and JUST how is it doing it with a drain out the back end of the boxes and there is a good lip around the top of them. Just don’t understand what’s going on here but I need to fix that to keep the water out...

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                    #11
                    I've found that unless the boat is stored perfectly level, the fish locker on the low side will take on water as more water from the deck will flow that way. The drain openings are, by their design, not flush to the deck. The lips around the fish boxes are not very high, so when there is any amount of water flowing across the deck, some of it will back up at the drains and go into the lockers. I've come to accept this and never store anything in those lockers besides fish! Some owners have had some success with weather stripping the top of the lips, but I'd still not store anything vulnerable in there.
                    Bob Hawes.
                    Kelowna, B.C.
                    1998 Trophy 2052 WA
                    4.3 Vortec, A1 G2

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                      #12
                      Alright, I have a 20' Trophy Walk Around Cuddy (2002FF). The fish wells "fish boxes" are located in deck of the boat and are designed to hold the fish you catch and plan to keep. I have been less than impressed with these fish wells. They collect rainwater, and while the boat has a pump to remove the water, the boat has one pump for two fish wells so unless you have an equal amount of water in both tanks, the pump is less than effective in removing the water.
                      My questions are as follows: How do other Trophy boat owners use these fish wells? Did you drill holes in the fishwells to allow rainwater to drain into the bilge, then install a cork to allow the use of ice/water in the fish wells? Has anyone cut holes into fishwells to recess a cooler "Great Lakes fishbox". What about the use of some type of liner, etc?

                      Any help would be appreciated.

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                        #13
                        I changed mine so that I have a separate pump for each fish box
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