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    #31
    Nice one rick!

    My fear is, I may end up looking like the fellow on the ground after the VP set up breaks the bank. As I ask around and look more into your suggested power plant, the price comes in at around 25K.

    20K for a bravo set up

    10K for the alpha.

    I better start playing the lotto !

    Santa Cruz CA
    1981 3270
    1991 2556

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      #32
      I bought the boat for 9K.

      Sold the trailer for 2K.

      $7000 initial investment.

      $5000 Upgrades ( including all of the cushy things that keep the wife happy) , repairs and complete outfit for fishing and crabbing.


      $12000 into it so far.

      $12000 for repower (357 Mag with alpha 1 gen 2)


      SO a basically brand new, reliable boat, completely set up just the way I like it for 24K!

      NO WAY I'm going to find a flybridge cruiser of that quality for that price anywhere.



      I truly appreciate all of the combined knowledge here. I had no idea there was such a price gap between the different repower options.

      Given the cost savings and availability of parts ( the auto parts store 2 miles from the marina has had everything in stock I have needed to keep current Merc system up and running), I think I will be going in the Mercruiser direction when the time comes.

      I plan on hitting crab season hard in November through the winter. The first major repair over $1000 and I will pull the trigger on the repower.

      Thanks you guys!
      Santa Cruz CA
      1981 3270
      1991 2556

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        #33
        Originally posted by seanV18 View Post
        Nice one rick!

        My fear is, I may end up looking like the fellow on the ground after the VP set up breaks the bank. As I ask around and look more into your suggested power plant, the price comes in at around 25K.
        20K for a bravo set up
        10K for the alpha.
        I better start playing the lotto !
        Sean, you do as you please. I don't want to be a nay-sayer regarding your plan to use Merc.

        I would like you to know that a good used DP-C drive will outperform and outlast a Merc A drive 20 to 1.


        Here's a DP-C 1.95:1 for $2,900.
        https://www.ebay.com/itm/Volvo-Penta...QAAOSwdZ5fJizH


        Aluminum props will run about $700/900



        Here is the correct transom shield for it at $300.
        https://www.ebay.com/itm/Volvo-Penta...8AAOSwb65e~Pd-

        Here's one with the hydraulic cylinders and hydraulic lines at $1,500.
        https://www.ebay.com/itm/Volvo-Penta...0AAOSwJs5fBmXT


        Here's one at $750.
        https://www.ebay.com/itm/Volvo-Penta...oAAOSwncZeIODE

        A good used exhaust Y pipe will run you about $350.

        You'll be doing a new exhaust system anyway..... right?


        Here's the flywheel cover that you'd need.
        You can find these in a single bearing PDS for around $500 or so.




        Even if I'm a bit low, you'd still be into it for less than $7 or 8K, and you'd have the Duo Prop performance to boot.

        Now find a cost for your engine.

        Rick E. Gresham, Oregon
        2850 Bounty Sedan Flybridge model
        Twin 280 HP 5.7's w/ Closed Cooling
        Volvo Penta DuoProp Drives
        Kohler 4 CZ Gen Set

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          #34
          Its easy to spend other peoples money!


          i vote for bravo 2x and 300 hp yanmar diesel ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚



          If I were you, unless I needed more power id also keep what I have. If the alpha is as bad as people make them out to be your boat would have been converted by the PO years ago.

          Your 2556 is pushing the limits of that drive but if operated like a relaxing cruiser and not an off shore get there fast machine you should be good for many many years.

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            #35
            Agree, sounds like Sean is happy with his current performance.
            Sean are you looking at carbureted or fuel injected engines? Regardless Iโ€™d suggest you go with a closed cooled engine.
            Dave
            Edmonds, WA
            "THE FIX"
            '93 2556
            Carbureted 383 Vortec-Bravo II 2.0:1 18 1/4x19 P

            The rebuild of my 2556 https://www.baylinerownersclub.org/f...76?view=thread
            Misc. projects thread
            https://www.baylinerownersclub.org/f...56-gctid789773

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              #36
              i'm thinking the carbureted one with the the weber 4 barrel. With the fuel injected model the price jumps up by 4K.

              Any suggestions on a gear ratio for the alpha 1 gen 2?
              Santa Cruz CA
              1981 3270
              1991 2556

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                #37
                Great discussion - one thing that I'll add that I wished I'd known when I started - if you buy a new/reman engine OR a new outdrive from Merc it will come with a 1 year warranty - but if you buy both AND a new transom assembly then all three get a 5 year warranty (or so I've been told).
                1998 Bayliner 2858
                7.4L MPI / Bravo III
                Harbour Village Marina - Kenmore WA

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by njosephson View Post
                  Great discussion - one thing that I'll add that I wished I'd known when I started - if you buy a new/reman engine OR a new outdrive from Merc it will come with a 1 year warranty - but if you buy both AND a new transom assembly then all three get a 5 year warranty (or so I've been told).
                  Great tip and well worth investigating! Thank you
                  Santa Cruz CA
                  1981 3270
                  1991 2556

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                    #39
                    1.47 on your gear ratio for the alpha.

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                      #40
                      Sean Iโ€™m not familiar with the Alpha drive ratio for a 2556. If you like the way she performs currently Iโ€™d say stay with the same ratio your current drive is set up as.
                      Dave
                      Edmonds, WA
                      "THE FIX"
                      '93 2556
                      Carbureted 383 Vortec-Bravo II 2.0:1 18 1/4x19 P

                      The rebuild of my 2556 https://www.baylinerownersclub.org/f...76?view=thread
                      Misc. projects thread
                      https://www.baylinerownersclub.org/f...56-gctid789773

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                        #41
                        I would like that. Wondering what the current ratio is and how to find out?

                        Is it the 1.47 mentioned above?
                        Santa Cruz CA
                        1981 3270
                        1991 2556

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                          #42
                          Gen 1 was 1.5 and gen 2 was 1.47.


                          a few under powered big boats back in the day had i think 1.67 on the 5.0 v8.

                          but 1.47 is the ratio you should have(most importantly want) to aim for the proper operating range for the v8

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by PickleRick View Post
                            Gen 1 was 1.5 and gen 2 was 1.47.


                            a few under powered big boats back in the day had i think 1.67 on the 5.0 v8.

                            but 1.47 is the ratio you should have(most importantly want) to aim for the proper operating range for the v8
                            Ok.

                            I also understand that the alpha is maxed out at 300hp.

                            I'm looking at 275hp. I realize that the 2556 is a relatively heavy boat.

                            So 1:47 option is the best ratio for max boat weight and near max HP?
                            Santa Cruz CA
                            1981 3270
                            1991 2556

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                              #44
                              ......... I realize that the 2556 is a relatively heavy boat.
                              All the more reason for the Duo Prop!
                              Rick E. Gresham, Oregon
                              2850 Bounty Sedan Flybridge model
                              Twin 280 HP 5.7's w/ Closed Cooling
                              Volvo Penta DuoProp Drives
                              Kohler 4 CZ Gen Set

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by 2850Bounty View Post

                                All the more reason for the Duo Prop!
                                Rick, Curious as to the prop diameter on the DP. Are they large like the Bravoโ€™s?
                                As you know my Bravo 2 is a 2.0:1 ratio and swings an 18 1/4 x 19P aluminum three blade. 30 mph via gps cruising speeds at 36-3800 rpm even with a โ€œsickโ€ engine
                                ๐Ÿคข๐Ÿค•
                                Dave
                                Edmonds, WA
                                "THE FIX"
                                '93 2556
                                Carbureted 383 Vortec-Bravo II 2.0:1 18 1/4x19 P

                                The rebuild of my 2556 https://www.baylinerownersclub.org/f...76?view=thread
                                Misc. projects thread
                                https://www.baylinerownersclub.org/f...56-gctid789773

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