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Trim Tabs 26 Mar 2017 18:14 #1

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Hello all. Looking for some information regarding Trim tabs. I've seen/watched many videos in regards to their effectiveness, but I'm not sure which type would be the best. We have a 2016 VR5, that we take delivery on April 17th. The boat did well on the sea trial, but I must say the bow rise was pretty significant. Will placing two adults in the bow area help mitigate the rise at all? Also, hydraulic or electric, or self adjusting tabs for that matter! I would like to easily maintain plane at lower speeds. A video showing hydraulic tabs correcting boat lean was pretty cool, I have to admit. Finally, will the Tabs be an issue when trailering the boat? Expertise welcome, and rough price quotes too! And why don't they just manufacture the boats with Tabs anyway?

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Trim Tabs 26 Mar 2017 19:04 #2

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Yes placing two adults in the bow area will help.
Self adjusting like Smart tabs would do ok if you're a lake boater.
Ocean going, helm adjustable would be far superior of course.
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Trim Tabs 26 Mar 2017 21:57 #3

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I put a set of lenco on my 21 foot bow rider and they work fantastic, have to get used to them, quick reaction from using. I found wiring them opposite from switch, port and starboard, work better. one lite touch levels boat out. hope this helps
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Trim Tabs 27 Mar 2017 12:06 #5

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I wish they would include Trim Tabs on all boats :)

If the trailer bunks extend past the transom the Tans can be a problem if they are the self adjusting type. If they are the remotely operated type they can be fitted with auto tab retractors that put them up when the boat's ignition is switched off.

Trim Tabs will significantly reduce bow rise without having to move people around.

What type and size boat do you have?

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Trim Tabs 27 Mar 2017 14:24 #6

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My boat is not as large as yours but bow rise and porpoising was an issue. Applied "Smart Tab"s (Nauticus), now getting out of the hole is almost instantaneous, decreased porpoising greatly. Did not decrease speed at all. ...worm
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the lenco electic tabs I put on my 21 ft bayliner were 12x12 easy to install about 500.00

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Trim Tabs 27 Mar 2017 14:27 #8

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I previously had the smart tabs for years, but when adjusted for two, they work every time, but put more people in boat and I still had to shift people around to stabilize. which is why a went to electric lencos, or even bennet bolt are fine

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Trim Tabs 27 Mar 2017 14:54 #9

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I'm going to look into these. Thanks for the advice. Especially being a new boater, I would like to feel that I have greater control of the boat. Also, do you have any issues with the TABS in a reversing situation. Any more info on this would be appreciated.

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Trim Tabs 27 Mar 2017 14:58 #10

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I have a 2016 Bayliner VR5. And since I'm pretty new to boating, I can't make a comparison to anything, other than the videos appears to show ease of weight distribution, and quicker to plane. I have two daughters, and my youngest probably would not be too thrilled with the 20 degree bow rise on take off.

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Trim Tabs 27 Mar 2017 15:09 #11

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My only concern about the electric TABS is that the mechanical aspect of it is constantly underwater as opposed hydraulic. Is this true? Also, I have no idea about realistic price ranges. Maybe I need to get behind the helm before I make any decisions. We had to buy a new Truck (2017 Tacoma with the off road package) to pull this boat because our Toyota highlander was not rated to pull such a load. Yup, the costs are there and I have a brand new setup! I hope I have made the right decision in buying this boat. I'm almost too anxious to get things underway!!

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Trim Tabs 27 Mar 2017 15:15 #12

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I had QL Boat Trim System on my previous boat and they were great, only concern was the big hole thats required to get the connectors through the transom, they are self retracting so when you switch the ignition off they dissapear up in the unit. And the autotrim is priced well if you decide to install that.
On my new boat I have Bennett 12" dropfin and they are awesome, I fitted the Mente Marine control to them so you just adjust the trim once and the trim will be automatic when you switch it on, A bit more expensive but the autotrim can adjust both roll and pitch. NICE. They also move in up position when you switch the engine off, but the trims are still protruding from the transom. Whatever system you choose you will not regret it, good luck :lol:
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Trim Tabs 27 Mar 2017 16:00 #13

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Rfaich wrote: I have a 2016 Bayliner VR5. And since I'm pretty new to boating, I can't make a comparison to anything, other than the videos appears to show ease of weight distribution, and quicker to plane. I have two daughters, and my youngest probably would not be too thrilled with the 20 degree bow rise on take off.

Actually, that will be all kinds of fun for them, the kids love getting tossed around :woohoo:

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Trim Tabs 27 Mar 2017 16:10 #14

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Rfaich wrote: My only concern about the electric TABS is that the mechanical aspect of it is constantly underwater as opposed hydraulic. Is this true?


Yes that is true...everything is contained inside the actuator.
Also seen/heard negative feedback regarding this issue.

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Trim Tabs 27 Mar 2017 16:15 #15

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I can't believe I forgot to ask this prior: What are the ramifications (ie voided hull warranty etc.) for drilling into a brand new hull/transom?

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Trim Tabs 27 Mar 2017 17:35 #16

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I have a VR5 too, but I did not feel it needs trim tabs after boating for 1 year.
Take delivery of the boat and try it without trim tabs first and see if you really need them.
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Trim Tabs 27 Mar 2017 19:56 #17

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Ruffryder wrote:

Rfaich wrote: My only concern about the electric TABS is that the mechanical aspect of it is constantly underwater as opposed hydraulic. Is this true?


Yes that is true...everything is contained inside the actuator.
Also seen/heard negative feedback regarding this issue.


That was true with older electric Trim Tabs. We started from scratch with a new design that addressed all the leak points of older systems. Ee are so confident that our BOLT electric Trim Tabs have a lifetime warranty on the actuators (rams) same as our hydraulic units.

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Trim Tabs 27 Mar 2017 20:54 #18

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Can you send me a link to the specifics? As suggested by a fellow VR5 owner, it's best that I get a few spring outings with my boat first before I install anything. That being said, I would like to be able to make an informed move on a specific TAB if need be. Thanks TABMAN!! B) B)

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Trim Tabs 28 Mar 2017 11:28 #19

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Last year was my first year with my new 185. After a few times out I installed Smart Tabs...Wow what a difference, not just getting on plane but at no wake speed going in and out of the marina there is much better control. As to the install and drilling holes, its easy once you do your first one....there are plenty of threads on here about drilling holes in fiberglass. If you look through my threads there are several on the Smart Tab topic.

As to backing up, I don't feel they make a whole lot of difference unless you're backing up at high speeds through a slalom course...I only back up short distances slowly and I haven't noticed any problems.
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Rfaich wrote: Can you send me a link to the specifics? As suggested by a fellow VR5 owner, it's best that I get a few spring outings with my boat first before I install anything. That being said, I would like to be able to make an informed move on a specific TAB if need be. Thanks TABMAN!! B) B)


Link to Self Leveling Trim Tabs http://www.bennetttrimtabs.com/self-leveling-tabs-slt/

Link to BOLT electric Trim Tabs www.bennetttrimtabs.com/bolt/

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