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19' Capri Cuddy Floor and Transom Replacement Pics 26 Mar 2016 12:34 #226

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No worry about water over the stern Ryan. As you know, we have the same boat just different year. Same engine and with three of us adults all in the rear while fishing on mine last year there was no problem at all. Even in warm weather with someone out on the swim platform the boat didn't sit too low in the stern. I also have two batteries under the rear starboard seat. Of course I wasn't in terribly rough conditions but I was pleased how my boat sat with all of us in the back fishing.

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19' Capri Cuddy Floor and Transom Replacement Pics 26 Mar 2016 14:20 #227

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Thanks for the input on the batteries and the balance with a v8. As I said, one reason to move the batteries would be for better Balance but the other is to free up room in the transom area for standing storage, etc. In thinking about how the floatation boxes are and my newest idea is to mount them in the back corners on top of those (belong the seats, as it appears there is enough room). If they won't fit the long way along the sides, I can add a small piece of plywood in there to hold them so they are parallel with the transom. Any drawbacks to doing that (other than the weight in the back)? They would be up off the floor and stay dry too.

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19' Capri Cuddy Floor and Transom Replacement Pics 28 Mar 2016 18:23 #228

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Got a decent amount accomplished this weekend. Wasn't able to take as many pics as I hoped but got some. I was able get all the rear pieces that I had cut and mocked up coated with epoxy. I assembled everything, put foam in the corner boxes, glassed over boxes and that's where I am now:








Now will start looking at the exterior of the transom to see if I can start putting the outdrive in along with engine after that. I have most of the parts and seals I need, just lacking a couple things.

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19' Capri Cuddy Floor and Transom Replacement Pics 28 Mar 2016 20:41 #229

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So I have configured the aft of the boat per previous post. This involves not installing the face piece that encloses this area as I want access to the room directly adjacent to the transom for storage. Will this present an issue with ventilation as this are will essentially be open to the atmosphere? I am also not sure where the vent should be piped to. Megamark - how is yours vented? I didn't plan this out and not sure where to run it. I'm starting to think that the engine compartment is completely separated from the rest of the boat for a reason... Some insight would be appreciated on this if possible. Thanks.

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19' Capri Cuddy Floor and Transom Replacement Pics 28 Mar 2016 22:38 #230

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Structurally it looks much better than the original. I would suspect your only concern may be engine noise, which could be quieted up by your choice of several products after she's all done.
So the batteries are going to go in the top front of those corner boxes?
The "suck" side of the vent needs to go down into the bilge under the engine, I usually mount them about 4" from the bottom of the boat against the transom. Again not a big deal, something you can run after you are all done with your glass work(but before engine goes in), looks like you'll have access through those large vertical slots for everything.

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19' Capri Cuddy Floor and Transom Replacement Pics 28 Mar 2016 23:58 #231

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Rk i think this setup wil be better from seceral vantage points. Structurally, space use, etc. I'm still trying to figure out the batteries. There isn't room as I had hoped on top of the floatation boxes, as the trim pieces that go along the sides run back further than I thought. Newest idea is to put a piece of wood flush just to the inside of each of these at the same level that will continue over to the vertical supports with the slots in them. This piece would add structure and also keep engine noise and engine smells from getting into the rest of the boat. Also it would be a couple of nice spots for the batteries. All while being able to keep the bottom open for storage.

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19' Capri Cuddy Floor and Transom Replacement Pics 29 Mar 2016 18:02 #232

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Ryan-I had to switch the blower from starboard to port side due to the power steering ram, took some pics hope this helps, let me know if you would like something specific?
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19' Capri Cuddy Floor and Transom Replacement Pics 29 Mar 2016 19:14 #233

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I keep looking at those rear foam boxes, thinking I'd jigsaw a notch and glass up a "step" into the forward portion of each one and mount the batteries there.

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19' Capri Cuddy Floor and Transom Replacement Pics 29 Mar 2016 19:18 #234

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Thanks mark. I am basically going to do that setup except envision raising up the batteries about a foot. Will be tight to squeeze the air vent hose through there but I think I can do it.

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19' Capri Cuddy Floor and Transom Replacement Pics 29 Mar 2016 19:23 #235

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Rk missed your post - I will look at that compared to where the side trim pieces go. Would get them forward a bit but negative is they would be out in the open I would think.

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19' Capri Cuddy Floor and Transom Replacement Pics 29 Mar 2016 19:34 #236

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Looks very similar to mine. I like to give a little slope to the blower hose so it doesn’t pocket water. It gets tight in there, hooking up leads, putting lid and strap on battery is awkward, but I also don’t like giving up space.

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19' Capri Cuddy Floor and Transom Replacement Pics 29 Mar 2016 19:45 #237

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Here you go. Use battery boxes and mount them here on each side. Tuck wires up behind the interior side panels when done.
My pic won't upload. Ugh.

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19' Capri Cuddy Floor and Transom Replacement Pics 30 Mar 2016 00:58 #238

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Had a little time tonight so worked on the battery compartments. I cut the pieces and took pics of the starboard side one. Just about big enough for the battery and vent hose. Also should be room for the steering cable. One issue is I can't quite fit a battery in from the top. Will have to trim a bit of the hull just slightly at the edge which is out of sight.



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19' Capri Cuddy Floor and Transom Replacement Pics 30 Mar 2016 01:49 #239

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I would ditch the bat boxes. Get trays ! Its way cleaner and the boxes do nothing but become a paint in the ass especialy in tight spaces. Bat boxes should only be done with bus bars so that the cables that go into the boxes are minimal and all the wiring is external. You do Good work!
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19' Capri Cuddy Floor and Transom Replacement Pics 30 Mar 2016 15:44 #240

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I'm not a huge fan of the boxes either, but if Ryan is going to carpet his boat after all the work is done it would be a shame to have a battery ooze acid on it. I also boat in salt water so the more protection I can have for anything electrical the better.
The only battery I MIGHT trust not to leak would be an optima.

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19' Capri Cuddy Floor and Transom Replacement Pics 31 Mar 2016 03:37 #241

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I have never seen a battery leak that was charging properly. I rig brand new boats and i have never seen acid on any of the older boats that come in for servicing. Car battery's do not leak either or they would need to be topped up periodicity. What ever floats your boat here , I just recognize that there is a space issue and he has to know that there is nothing to worry about as long as the batt is secured properly. Cheers guys!

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19' Capri Cuddy Floor and Transom Replacement Pics 31 Mar 2016 04:59 #242

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rkcarguy wrote: I'm not a huge fan of the boxes either, but if Ryan is going to carpet his boat after all the work is done it would be a shame to have a battery ooze acid on it. I also boat in salt water so the more protection I can have for anything electrical the better.
The only battery I MIGHT trust not to leak would be an optima.


I've never seen a battery leak :unsure:

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19' Capri Cuddy Floor and Transom Replacement Pics 01 Apr 2016 17:42 #243

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I have, and I have fuzzy holes in several pairs of old work jeans to prove it.

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19' Capri Cuddy Floor and Transom Replacement Pics 01 Apr 2016 17:57 #244

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LOL I remember those days, thank god they put handles on most batteries now.

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Thanks for the input on the batteries. If i can afford it at some point i will get some optimas. Also thabjs for the kudos attatoy.

So I got the battery compartments epoxied in. Didn't take any pics as its the same as the fitment pics basically. I have moved on to looking at the exterior of the transom. There were about a million little stress cracks around the lower portion of the transom in the gelcoat from stress/rotten wood. I took the wire wheel to this and ground away until the cracks seemed to disappear. I have been researching the gelcoat repair and it sounds like I need to get unwaxed gelcoat for all but the last layer which is to be waxed. I was wondering if I should take the area I am redoing all the way down to the fiberglass everywhere or just go over the uneven surface I have created? Here is a pic:



Let me know what you guys think. I know you did something similar to this builder dude...

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19' Capri Cuddy Floor and Transom Replacement Pics 01 Apr 2016 21:53 #246

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Feather sand the area on the exterior transome with at least 100 grit then apply your no wax added Gelcoat till it's built up to flush then cover it with plastic (cling wrap) or spray it with PVA mold release. When cured wet sand and compound till shinny.
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So when I sand it with 100 grit I am going to end up getting out the peaks and valleys I imagine. I can always sand out and buff after the fact as well. Thanks for the help.

Also I noticed in your post you took a couple shots at matching the bayliner white gelcoat. What did you end up tinting it with to match?

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You could sand the main area with 60 grit then move to 80-100-150 as you move out towards the perimeter. The guy explains it well in the video. There are tinting agents to help dial the color in. I did exactly what the guy in the video did (different video- he has many) to color match. It took a long time to get it even close to the right color.
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Thanks for the links builderdude. I watched a few of the videos and have a better handle on how the gelcoat process works. I decided with exterior of transom area so banged up I will sand and gel coat the whole panel. Took all the hardware off. Hopefully will be able to get a decent color match. Either way will look much better than it was.



I am trying to decide if I should fill the pits with epoxy of thickened gelcoat. The guy in the videos said not to use epoxy under gelcoat but west systems says you can so not sure yet.

I also was able to disassemble the bearings from the bellhousing and install new ones without much trouble.

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The polyester over epoxy debate has been pending for quite a while, the guy actually has some videos on that too. To be safe I'd use a polyester fairing compound to fill any pits. Of course I say that knowing that I used gelcoat over my exterior repairs that were done with epoxy :lol:

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