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Element Hull Holding Water 20 Dec 2016 20:18 #76

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Mrjeff-

When you installed the smart tabs on your XL did you notice any water on the sponsons?

Has any case be documented on the XL with water in the sponsons?

Thanks.

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Element Hull Holding Water 21 Dec 2016 01:57 #77

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Captain5 wrote: Mrjeff-

When you installed the smart tabs on your XL did you notice any water on the sponsons?

Has any case be documented on the XL with water in the sponsons?

Thanks.

I just put a hydrofoil on the engine,no smart tabs. I have been asking if any one has had water in the xl also. No one has said that they have had water in an xl.

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Element Hull Holding Water 22 Dec 2016 22:06 #78

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thank you for your help...

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Element Hull Holding Water 30 Mar 2017 13:53 #79

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Question about the self-bailing deck and the bilge area and pump. I'm trying to get some conformation about how this all works. If I rinse down the deck (or it rains when left in the slip or outside) does the water drain out a self bailing port or does it all make it's way into the bilge and have to be pumped out? 2017 Element e16.

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Element Hull Holding Water 30 Mar 2017 14:02 #80

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pepperjack wrote: Question about the self-bailing deck and the bilge area and pump. I'm trying to get some conformation about how this all works. If I rinse down the deck (or it rains when left in the slip or outside) does the water drain out a self bailing port or does it all make it's way into the bilge and have to be pumped out? 2017 Element e16.


Self bailing cockpits drain out through the side of the boat, not into the bilge.

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Element Hull Holding Water 30 Mar 2017 14:24 #81

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So any water that gets in the bilge area is a result of water getting past a hatch seal or from the seats, etc?

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Element Hull Holding Water 30 Mar 2017 14:38 #82

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My 2014 Element 16' has two holes at the back of the deck. These are connected by a hose (one for each hole) that directs water to the bilge. The pump that came with my boat is a manual pump and must be activated with the switch at the helm to empty the bilge. Make sure the hoses are not bent upwards as mine were. This will prevent water from the deck to flow into the bilge.

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Element Hull Holding Water 30 Mar 2017 16:02 #83

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Thanks, that clears things up for me. I'll need to periodically run the manual switch or put in an auto switch to trigger when it rains out on the boat lift.

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Element Hull Holding Water 30 Mar 2017 19:17 #84

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FYI - Bayliners auto bilge pump setting only works with the key in the ignition and in the on position. The $40 option for automatic bilge only works when the boat is under way. You'll need to tap into constant power and put a float on your bilge pump if you want it to pump unattended.

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Element Hull Holding Water 30 Mar 2017 19:38 #85

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Make sure that you connect the new auto switch directly to the battery.
If you took the radio option, you should turn the "red key" (located in the battery compartment) to the "off" position when leaving the boat for more then a week or so. The reason is that the radio logo will remain lit 24/7 even with the ignition turned off and key removed. This will slowly drain the battery. However, turning the "red key" to the "off" position will cut the power to everything other than what you connect directly to the battery. The pump will only work when required so it shouldn't drain your battery. Unless, of course it rains buckets every day for weeks. Then the pump would actually run your battery down and the pump will stop operating. That's when you start praying that the built in foam flotation system will keep your boat afloat.
Good luck with your new toy.

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Element Hull Holding Water 31 Mar 2017 20:59 #86

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I just thought of something. While on the lift and high and dry, I can just reach down and remove the drain plug until the next time I use it. That way the boat can remain off with no battery drain. We opted to not get the radio and are just going to use a portable speaker that we can take off the boat and use elsewhere. I did order the VessleView Mobile module instead of any additional gauges or wiring.

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Element Hull Holding Water 31 May 2017 13:21 #87

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Pepper.. let us know about the vvm, I am looking into it as well but the $300 for the module and no screen is tough.

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Element Hull Holding Water 31 May 2017 14:02 #88

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The Module may seem pricey are $275 and not include a screen. But if you look at what it does and what your alternative is it is fairly cheap. Vessel View 502 or 702 range from $1200 to $2200.

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Element Hull Holding Water 31 May 2017 17:13 #89

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metz123 wrote: FYI - Bayliners auto bilge pump setting only works with the key in the ignition and in the on position. The $40 option for automatic bilge only works when the boat is under way. You'll need to tap into constant power and put a float on your bilge pump if you want it to pump unattended.


FYI on mine the auto bilge pump does work when the battery switch and ignition is off and key is removed. But, I the bilge pump was not working at all upon delivery and the boat came with no on/off switch. In a warranty visit the dealer repaired the pump and added the switch and everything is working as it should. I did not prompt him on how to wire it.

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Element Hull Holding Water 05 Jun 2017 18:26 #90

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The VVM module has been a great addition to our Element. Works every time we go out and I check all the stats while we idle away from the shore.

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Element Hull Holding Water 05 Jun 2017 19:56 #91

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Waterdowg wrote: The Module may seem pricey are $275 and not include a screen. But if you look at what it does and what your alternative is it is fairly cheap. Vessel View 502 or 702 range from $1200 to $2200.


An other option is the SmartCraft SC1000. It has a gauge for the helm and monitors various motor functions plus it alerts you of any issues with a built in alarm in addition to the visual message on the gauge.

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Element Hull Holding Water 06 Jun 2017 00:55 #92

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Agreed the SC1000 is a great gauge. I was looking at that as well until I called Mercury and they told me they were releasing the Mobile Module. They actually recommended that guage at first and once I told them I was not in hurry to buy one as it was winter they they proposed the Mobile module.
For me the module is better as I don't have room on my dash for another guage.

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Element Hull Holding Water 19 Jul 2017 23:49 #93

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Pepper jack, as I mentioned in other posts. Check your bilge area for holes in the hand laid corners and bottom. I found several in mine and caulked them. They allowed water in the sponsons. I have the other in for a week straight so this week will be the real test.

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