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2859 Owners 19 Aug 2017 00:02 #526

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14.5 MPH @ 3600 RPM is way too slow!
she should be doing at least 25MPH if not faster...

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2859 Owners 19 Aug 2017 03:23 #527

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What do you think might be going on?

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stern heavy when I saw her,
looks like you never got her up on plane?
using your trim tabs?
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I have moved everything I possibly can to forward lockers to
lessen stern weight. The speed curve shows that there is
less than 2 MPH difference between 2000 and 2800 RPM,
then it starts going up at a faster rate per RPM increase.
This seems to indicate planing at about 2800 RPM.
The trim tabs did not seem to affect speed significantly.
The boat also seems to burn a high amount of fuel per
mile. Maybe this means it needs a higher pitch prop?

I'd like to see the speed curves of other boats. Or even
some random speeds/RPM others are getting.

Would there be anything else that would affect speed/RPM
other than prop pitch?

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2859 Owners 19 Aug 2017 15:28 #530

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My boat with the old 350 was a dog, so that is why I opted for the repower and reducing weight. Question have you removed the concrete from the port side?
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2859 Owners 19 Aug 2017 15:29 #531

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Haven't removed the concrete and I have about 550 Ah of
batteries over there also. Shouldn't make 9 MPH difference
though, should it? I have a 7.4L MPI Ruff says I should see
25 MPH or more at 3600. Is that right?

What's your speed to RPMs?

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2859 Owners 19 Aug 2017 17:24 #533

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she lists to the PORT side pretty bad... concrete plus 6 more batteries right on top of it!
at 14.5 MPH, she was never up on plane most likely.
sea trial ever performed before you purchased her? whats the WOT on her... maybe she is propped wrong.
first, verify your trim tabs are working properly, both tabs all the way down then gun it.
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I'll go out and give this a try tomorrow.

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jongleur wrote: What's your speed to RPMs?


He's absolutely correct. Prior to paint, my top speed was high 30's low 40's.

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jongleur wrote: Haven't removed the concrete and I have about 550 Ah of
batteries over there also. Shouldn't make 9 MPH difference
though, should it? I have a 7.4L MPI Ruff says I should see
25 MPH or more at 3600. Is that right?

What's your speed to RPMs?


I have a 7.4 MPI too. Mine lists a little bit to port side also. I have three batteries there. I plan on moving them to the starboard side under the fish well to balance it out.

As for performance I cruise at 3800 RPM at about 27mph. Top speed around 3O mph at 4400 rpm.

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Dstancil wrote: My cabin floor have developed a soft spot in the area of the water tank. There are no leaks with the tank, but I am concerned with the floor. Before I pull up the carpet and take a look, does anyone out there have any experience with this issue. Is there an access port in the floor under the carpet above the water tank thank could be the problem? I have seen some posts where new flooring has been installed and maybe these owners have some comments.
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The floor is only 5/8 plywood. Where there are joints of plywood sheets Bayliner put a strip 3" wide strip of plywood underneath the joint. One of mine was broken. I only found it when I cut my floor out to add a bigger hatch and do vinyl.
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Good morning all green 650 I cut out the fish well simpler to get to battery's I build a battery box that fits forward in that compartment and moved the switch so the cable run is shorter.

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Good morning green650, nice looking boat in your picture, what is the raft on your cabin top?

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2859 Owners 24 Aug 2017 16:29 #540

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Went to see the eclipse in Salem, Oregon. Awesome.
Got stuck for 2 days in eclipse traffic. Terrible.

Ran the boat up to WOT and it was 4600 RPM at
27 MPH. Tried it various times and directions.
Could I go up pitch in prop? I'm not really interested
in going fast much. I'd just like more range and speed
at lower RPMs.

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jongleur wrote: Went to see the eclipse in Salem, Oregon. Awesome.
Got stuck for 2 days in eclipse traffic. Terrible.

Ran the boat up to WOT and it was 4600 RPM at
27 MPH. Tried it various times and directions.
Could I go up pitch in prop? I'm not really interested
in going fast much. I'd just like more range and speed
at lower RPMs.


WOT is good...within specification, right on the money so I wouldn't go up in pitch.
you either need to go slow at your hull speed or go fast getting her up on plane.

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fritzman wrote: Good morning green650, nice looking boat in your picture, what is the raft on your cabin top?

Those were two Costco kayaks upside down.
She's on the Alaska ferry now headed north to Skagway.

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You one lucky BOC owner, you will love the fishing and silvers should be running now, thanks for the info. have a great time.

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Offloaded in Skagway.
She's no longer mine. :(

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green650 wrote: Offloaded in Skagway.
She's no longer mine. :(


Green, you boat less now? :(

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You are going to miss that boat. Skagway is on my list to visit

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green650 wrote: Offloaded in Skagway.
She's no longer mine. :(


Green, you boat less now? :(

Pretty much...I still have my 10' Livingston.
I'm hopefully moving south this winter, but didn't want to wait till winter to sell the boat.
It sold much faster than I thought. Took a couple days. And then after I took the ad down, someone that already came and saw it emailed me and said "I saw you took the ad down, if it's not too late I'll offer you 5K more than what you listed it for".
These are apparently very popular in Alaska and worth twice as much up there. Big block and Alaska bulkhead is what they want up there.

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fritzman wrote: You are going to miss that boat. Skagway is on my list to visit

I already do...
I'm keeping my eyes open now for one in Florida. Maybe a late model with a blown up 350 that I can do a diesel conversion. I'd like at least a 35 mile an hour top speed, and be able to easily cruise at 25 mph.
The 7.4 MPI topped at 31 and seemed like it was working hard at 3800rpm to keep it up at 26-27mph. I need more power and speed.
I think those that claim the 350mpi is good enough never had one of these boats and are only looking at numbers on a chart.

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green650 wrote:

fritzman wrote: You are going to miss that boat. Skagway is on my list to visit

I already do...
I'm keeping my eyes open now for one in Florida. Maybe a late model with a blown up 350 that I can do a diesel conversion. I'd like at least a 35 mile an hour top speed, and be able to easily cruise at 25 mph.
The 7.4 MPI topped at 31 and seemed like it was working hard at 3800rpm to keep it up at 26-27mph. I need more power and speed.
I think those that claim the 350mpi is good enough never had one of these boats and are only looking at numbers on a chart.


you're going to need twins...

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I am working to get my boat in the water to test things out, I will let you know the outcome. I would look at a boat in the great lakes area, no salt and more than likely in storage all winter.

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