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2859 Owners 12 Mar 2017 23:16 #401

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JThiessen wrote: But I'm somewhat surprised how easy it was to push water through the macerator.


Hence the need for a Y-Valve. When pumping away on the toilet, you're generating a lot of hydraulic pressure.

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2859 Owners 13 Mar 2017 13:07 #402

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The back filling will happen when tank is full.
It's happened to me a couple of times and yes it's nasty.
I hope thats your problem easy fix.
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2859 Owners 13 Mar 2017 15:02 #403

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If you're getting blackwater back into the bowl, you need to service your head. There's a duckbill valve (joker valve) at the base of the pump that should prevent that from happening If there's enough pressure to overcome this valve then you have a clogged vent. This would also explain why you're discharging past your macerator. Toilet paper and other solid matter will clog the screen on your vent in a sick sort of paper mache sort of way. You need to flush that vent line.

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Just a thought: If your holding tank vent turns out to be plugged up (sounds like it is) consider replacing the screened vent fitting with a standard type through hull fitting. It'll be much easier to blast it clear the next time this happens.

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So Sorry Don't know my left from right, yes fish locker is on the starboard side, yes the stove has a fuel pump.

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I replaced my holding tank vent with a larger diameter vent and as long as you're watching the levels, the screen keeps bugs out. They love the smell of those vents. :(

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That is why there flowing me all the time, I thought it was my good looks. :woohoo:

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SomeSailor wrote: If you're getting blackwater back into the bowl, you need to service your head. There's a duckbill valve (joker valve) at the base of the pump that should prevent that from happening If there's enough pressure to overcome this valve then you have a clogged vent. This would also explain why you're discharging past your macerator. Toilet paper and other solid matter will clog the screen on your vent in a sick sort of paper mache sort of way. You need to flush that vent line.


Yeah, valves were all replaced late last summer.
I've had my suspicions about the vent - really had a lot of trouble getting anything to suck out last time I emptied it.

Any tips on getting to that hose? I looked for it when I had the AFT cover off - is it behind the cover inside the cubby hole?

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Yep. It's easier than you'd think. Great time to change that stinky hose while you're in there.

Find the screws the hold the throttle quadrant panel in place. They're hidden in the folds of the vinyl. Once lose, you can set that panel aside and there's your vent, suction hose and it's an AWESOME time to add a charcoal filter to the vent line AND REPLACE IT with a bigger tube. It's easy to get to once you get the panel down and an awesome opportunbity to change that length of hose from there to the tank.

Loose the screws that hold down the deck fitting... cut the hose about a foot below the deck. Disconnect the tank end and buy yourself about a foot more than those two pieces. To reinstall attach one end to the deck fitting and then lower the other in through the hole in the deck. Seal the fittting with 3M sealant reattach to the macerator or tank.

Easy Peasy...

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Fritz, I repainted my walkthru transom with an epoxy paint. I used a brush to save the masking, when I sanded it to flatten and blend the epoxy changed color. Can you tell me what went wrong. thanks Flemming

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2859 Owners 18 Mar 2017 23:10 #411

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Ok, new member to this so how do I look up infor on mounting a windlass on my 2859?
:) FARMACIA Taree

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2859 Owners 18 Mar 2017 23:26 #412

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2859 Owners 18 Mar 2017 23:56 #413

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Ping Jockey, Look at my pics on page 4. Works real well. Reinforced the locker lid and put on beefy hinges, mounted the windless on the lid and can still lift it to get in.

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looks like I got a bad case of bravoitis! Was installing the thru hull system anyway, but didn't think it was as bad as this! Boat was never moored. Doesn't seem to matter I Guess. Glad I checked!

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Sketch that looks bad, are you going to rooter it out? Fleming on the epoxy turning shades, I think your in to the pigment Try a finer brush so you don't have to sand. I will post a picture of my windless mount, to all have a great day it is getting warmer 46 today

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Thanks Fritz, I'll try that but have to wait. It's -06F /-22C. So It'll have to wait until I can get it back inside again. Flemming

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I am going to block off the transom intake port and install a thru hull intake. Have almost everything to do it already just need a few more fittings and some warm weather!!!

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Adding Windlass to 2859 Ciera Classic. 1996. 21 Mar 2017 19:18 #418

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I do not see my boat from October until mid April, so I can't go measure anything. The windlass is a project that I would like to do this year. It is prewired from the factory. Is there anyone out there that have done this project? Are there any units that are some what designed for this boat? Any thing else I may not be thinking of?

Edit: I moved this here from Tech, OP is new, thought he'd get good info here. Jeffw

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Adding Windlass to 2859 Ciera Classic. 1996. 22 Mar 2017 05:57 #419

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Sketch, Looks familiar. I ended up grinding the corrosion out and re painting the housing then reinstalling with all new parts like OEM. It's something I'll be lkeeping an eye on to see if/when/how fast it returns. Good you discovered it now. You doing a sea strainer too?

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Sketch, I would recommend unplugging the water inlet from the drive, there is a recommendation to have water flowing from that inlet Merc. indicates that it helps lower drive cooling, so my solution was to create a wash-down from that source with a bypass letting water flow through a bulkhead of the starboard side when under way, just a thought. :blink:

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There is a proper way to do this...
Merc actually sells a kit for this.

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fritzman wrote: Sketch that looks bad, are you going to rooter it out? Fleming on the epoxy turning shades, I think your in to the pigment Try a finer brush so you don't have to sand. I will post a picture of my windless mount, to all have a great day it is getting warmer 46 today

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I think I have the same wench.


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Yes I have the merc block off plate kit and will be installing a strainer also. Groco I think is what I have. its on the way now. 1 1/4 thru hull clam shell strainer to a groco fbv, 1 1/2 strainer(got a great deal on it) will reduce it to 1 1 /4. to a tee with a garden hose fitting/shutoff to the pump.. Should be a happy motor afterwards. hoping it was not overheated by the previous owner! will cut off the intake pipe where merc recommends and I bought a driveshower also.

I just removed the exhaust system to inspect and I can not separate the spacers from the manifolds. everything looks aged so I'm not going to play with it Buying a complete aluminum HGE exhaust system. been flipping back and forth from aluminum (for the weight savings) and cast iron. I finally called ppt and they put my mind at ease. They have sold tons of these all over the world and the only real problem they have seen was electrolysis. and that was from direct saltwater and not changing the zincs. But they said they have not seen or had any come back for leakage problems from expansion or heat. Check flatness before install, good gaskets, retorque bolts a few times after a few heat cycles and change the anodes a couple times a year and they will outlast the cast iron.....apparently. So I'm going for it. Wont know until you try them I guess.

I do have a question about motor mounts. I was checking motor alignment today and needed to raise the front of the motor slightly. One mount adjusted no problem but the other the nut is frozen to the stud and the stud is spinning inside the mount. Is this normal or am I looking at a new mount?

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Both my front engine mounts were seized up. Put them in the work bench vise and used penetrating oil and some heat to free them up. Good to go. Keep us posted on the aluminum exhaust manifolds, been curious bout those myself.

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Fritz & green you both have the horizontal type windlass (Looks like the Lewmar pro series) Ill be installing a windlass soon and am considering the Lewmar pro series 700
Questions:
1-How much rode fall do you guys have from the underside of the deck to the bottom of the anchor locker or to the top of the rode pile?
2-What length is your rode and how much of it is chain?
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