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2859 Owners 03 May 2014 20:02 #151

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Prop Comparison for those looking to upgrade to a SS prop from the original aluminum.
Aluminum prop was the factory 48-18614A40 or the 18.25x19
Stainless Steel prop was PowerTech BRA3R19-M400 18.5 x 19

Both props were run on the same lake. The weather was calm, the elevation of the lake is about 2200 feet above sea level. The fuel tank had 80 gallons in it, no water or waste, and the boat was lightly loaded. The calibration on the fuel flow meter was different than it was when I took the aluminum prop numbers so they don't show a true comparison. But the RMPs and the speeds obtained by GPS are comparable.

Notice the increase in speed at the mid range between 3200 and 3800 rpm. I also noticed the boat stays on plane at a slower speed than before, which is nice as it broadens the sweet spot, and will allow me to go slower in rougher water while still staying up on plane. The Powertech salesman said I would lose 200 RPM at WOT with the new prop, but I only lost 100 RPM. My new WOT is 4300 rpm still within specs. If I ran this test at sea level, I'm sure the boat would be faster, and I might even reach a higher WOT. I am happy with the results.


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2859 Owners 04 May 2014 00:16 #152

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Skeeter, Fritz and friends. The wife and I had a good trip to Kitimat, 13 days on the water is enough for me. We got a crab feed, caught lots of small bottom fish, no halibut and lost 4 springs (equipment failure). Spent time in Bishop hot springs and had some other adventures. Used the bow thruster lots, twice docking would have been impossible without it for the 2 of use. You guys have a good time in Alaska this summer and stay off the rocks, we'll talk later. Flemming

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2859 Owners 05 May 2014 15:47 #153

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Hi Flemming Glad to hear the fish where biting and the thruster worked good, I will look at that project later no time this year. Skeeter started on his trip north on Sun. I am still in dry dock. Fritz :cheer:

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Hi 2859er, your comparison of stainless to aluminum props is great , wondering what the numbers would be for an 350 carbureted set up? Fritz B)

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2859 Owners 05 May 2014 22:13 #155

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fritzman wrote: Hi 2859er, your comparison of stainless to aluminum props is great , wondering what the numbers would be for an 350 carbureted set up? Fritz B)


I would only be guessing. Sorry.
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2859 Owners 06 May 2014 04:51 #156

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Need some input on anchors used for your 2859. I have been using the Delta, I think is about 25lb. Not happy with it as it will not hold most of the time. I also have 35' of chain, and pull all this with the Lewmar Pro Fish 1000 windless. I have been looking at the Manson Supreme. All reports that I have read is very good. I would like a 30lb, but they are 25lb and 35lb. 35 may be over kill and 25 not enough. Has any of you 2859er's used this Manson and if so what are your thoughts? Thanks Dan

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2859 Owners 06 May 2014 05:03 #157

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Some great mods shown in this thread!

Hoping to lunch May long this year. We still have lots of ice on the lake.


Lewmar 700 profish windlas
LED Lighting
Xantrex Freedom 1800 Inverter/Charger
Xantrex Linklite battery monitor
480AH house bank
Engine bay FM200 fire extinguisher
Fume detector
new flooring in cabin
mounted all chart plotters, fish finders & radios above the helm
Raymarine A60 (w/ Navionics charts) - now our backup chart plotter
iPad w/ Navionics charts - now our primary chart plotter
Standard Horizon GX1600 VHF
Standard Horizon HX280S (for the fishing boat)

A bunch more stuff but can't remember.

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Depending on the typical bottom.

I switched to a Bruce last season. Was using a danforth for a couple years then switched to CQR, which was better, but takes to loooooong to set.

We anchor ever weekend and usually for 3 to 4 days. Our bottom varies from mud/clay to sandy to weeds and rock, depending on the bay we end up in, or wind I'm trying to avoid.

I used the Bruce (22Kg) all last season without any sleepless nights. Also with a Lewmar 700 profish and all chain rode.

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thanks onthelake. I should of added that I'm in Alaska and I anchor in some ripping tides and in the area of 200', while out fishing. And yes I have a knife close by incase of a problem. Anyone else with input on anchors they have. Thanks Dan

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I use a 15 kg or 33 lb claw or Bruce style anchor with 30 feet of 1/4 inch chain and 300 feet of 1/2 inch line, with a PowerWinch 31 windlass. This anchor has never dragged on me once, I am very happy with this setup. We are out in the Salish Sea between 6 and 8 weeks per summer and anchor up most nights. The anchor has held fast in some pretty big blows. The reference charts say it is two sizes too big for my boat, but I figure that is just about right. I had an aluminum Spade anchor before and had nothing but trouble with it dragging all over the bay.

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2859 Owners 07 May 2014 02:16 #161

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Thanks 9er, I have thought about the Bruce also. I just need to make up my mind and get it done.

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2859 Owners 07 May 2014 03:21 #162

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Alaskan Spirit wrote: Thanks 9er, I have thought about the Bruce also. I just need to make up my mind and get it done.


Check your local marina and see what the majority of anchors are hanging on the bows... That may help in the decision making...

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2859 Owners 07 May 2014 04:23 #163

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I use the Bruce 33 lb with 60' 1/4" chain.
When anchoring in cook inlet in 270-300 feet of water with current ripping along at 6knots thats the setup you need to stay anchored and even then you will drag sometimes but not very often.
Dan if you will be anchoring in the inlet make sure your pulput is strong and the best way to pull anchor is the bouy system the winches won't last very long in those conditions.
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Skeeter if you anchor in 300 feet of water how much rope have you got and where do you stow it? Flemming

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2859 Owners 08 May 2014 02:44 #165

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Can not answer for Skeeter, but I carry 600' of 8 plaet (spelling?) rope and 35' of chain, all in the anchor locker. This plaet rope stores better than any other anchor rope. Before I went with this rope I could only carry 300' in the locker.

Skeeter I'm going to look into the 33lb Bruce. Thanks Dan

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2859 Owners 08 May 2014 13:52 #166

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I can get it all in the rode locker with room to spare, but i have to coil it and stack it so it will free fall without getting tangled up going out.
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Dan that's a lot of line, I didn't think that there was room for anymore than 300',so I only got 300' of 8 plait and 50' of chain. Hopefully that is all i'll need. Dan this was our first time out since installing the winch system and after deploying the anchor a dozen times I can already see fraying in the rode, is that normal? Flemming

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Skeeter how much rode are you using? Flemming

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Yes my plait rope is fraied some. The rope has 4years of use and many many times up and down with the Lewmar. The fray on my rope is not a problem and is not enough to affect the strength . Dan

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Just wanted to say great modifications and pictures on your boat, I just purchased a 2859 and you have given me some great ideas for my boat now so thanks .
Jono

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:) The sharp edges on the windlass will fray the line some but mine is 6 yrs old and i just endo'ed it.
Fritz, i made it to Prince Rupert with no problems, I cked out Port Edward an there is a ramp there and parking. I'll call you next week and fill you in.
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Flemming, I have 600' of 1/2" rode

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Jonoadams75 wrote: Just wanted to say great modifications and pictures on your boat, I just purchased a 2859 and you have given me some great ideas for my boat now so thanks .
Jono


Looking forward to seeing some pics of her!! :)

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Another head problem

Should my manul head hold a little water in the bottom of the bowl to keep the smell from coming back from the holding tank? I thought that there was always a little water in the bottom of the bowl in the past, but now can not keep any water in it. It is like it is all being sucked out into the holding tank. I'm pretty sure the tank vent is clear , but need to make sure.

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