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3888 (3870 & 3818) Owners 07 Jun 2011 13:42 #1

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I noticed a number of fairly new 38 owners posting recently (including myself), and was looking around for an owner's list. Surprisingly, I didn't find one. If interested, please add a description of your vessel and relevant options/mods here.

Larry O'Keefe
1986 Bayliner 3870
175 Hinos
8K Westerbeke
Cockpit hardtop
Espar heater
Wesmar bow thruster
Shilshole Marina, Seattle, WA

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1979 Ocean Alexander Mk I
"Miss Miranda II"
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3888 (3870 & 3818) Owners 20 Jul 2011 03:30 #2

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We've had ours for a little over a year and love it, they are great boats.
Upgrades to date:
1- new promariner 1260 c3 charger.
2- new norcold DE 0061 fridge.
3- new galley & mid-berth windows & gutters.
4- new screens & flocking on salon windows.
5- went to 300' all chain rode.
6- remote electric pump to drain all oil sumps.
7- oil pan heaters on hinos.

The list of things yet to do:
1- ceramic coat manicoolers.
2- recover cushions.
3- new carpet.
4- new flybridge cover.
5- new isinglass for bridge & cockpit.
6- upgrade electronics.

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1987 3870 - Northern Lights ll
Hino EH700
Westerbeke 8.0
1999 Logic Marine 17' CC/50 Merc.
on Louisiana pool Mississippi River.

3888 (3870 & 3818) Owners 29 Jul 2011 06:43 #3

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1987 Bayliner 3870 MY
Hino EH700 NA (6-393) Engines
Hurth 450 Transmissions
Microcommander 585 Controls
Westerbeke 8 BTD Generator
Sidepower SP75T Bow Thruster
Heart 2 Kw Inverter & 8D Battery
Documented Vessel "Econaut"
Working to replace fluids, seals, hoses, tune-up, clean-up, re-finish, and more - great boat - responding well to TLC. Many thanks to members responding to posts, and selling spares! Cheers, Doug S.

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3888 (3870 & 3818) Owners 25 Aug 2011 15:54 #4

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Hello everyone. I'm the happy new owner of an 1986 3870 "Stolen Moments". Family and I love the boat.

Port Credit, Lake Ontario
Great shape, 175 Hinos with some goodies like A/C, generator and a kicka$$ auto-pilot. Major stuff in great shape, but lots of little things which is kinda fun as it gave me little more negotiating power and an excuse for things to tinker with / upgrade in the future.

Immediate needs:
Rod-holders!!! :)
Fuel and...
...lots of little things like windless isn't getting power, charger is working but seems wimpy, jumpy fuel gauge etc. I will be posting some specific questions shortly.

This site has already helped me tremendously as I am new to a boat of this size, and countless buttons and electrical connections.

Looking forward to learning and sharing.

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3888 (3870 & 3818) Owners 14 Sep 2011 15:42 #5

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'89 - 3888 MY
Cockpit Hardtop
351 Windsors - Gasoline
Onan 9K Genset
A/C and reverse heat
Garmin 4210 Chart plotter/sounder/GPS/ Radar-to be added this winter
West Marine 10'6" RIB
Stock 3888 but all updated except the wall paper!

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'89 Bayliner 3888
"Big Smoke"
'07 Bayliner 185
'04 Sealine 42-5 "Siboney"
TP Marina - California Delta
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3888 (3870 & 3818) Owners 13 Nov 2011 01:24 #6

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We just bought our 1990 3888 in Juneau, Alaska last summer. Drove her up to Valdez harbor in beautiful Prince William Sound where she is moored. 2 1/2foot rear extension with huge fish hold and railing, twin 175 Hino's, cockpit hardtop, Westerbeke, downriggers, shrimp pot puller. Lots of fun Halibut, Rockfish, Ling, Salmon fishing & shrimping!
David Bridges
Fairbanks, Alaska

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3888 (3870 & 3818) Owners 13 Nov 2011 06:34 #7

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New owner and live aboard of a 1990 3888
Hino 175s
Cockpit Hardtop/deck
Onan 9K Genset
Bimini top
Raymarine Chart plotter/fishfinder/GPS/Radar
Robertson autopilot
cockpit shower
bait & washdown pump
Avon 11' RIB (Evinrude 28hp), davit and rails on forward deck
all new upholstery

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3888 (3870 & 3818) Owners 27 Nov 2011 20:02 #8

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Hello,
My name is Nace, I live in Slovenia,Europe and I'm a new member on this forum. I own 3888 for 2 years now and all I can tell - great boat !

" DISCO VOLANTE "
1990 Bayliner 3888 MY
Hino EH700 NA 175hp
8KW westerbeke
Interphace FLS
Furuno radar
Lorenz gps
Hummingbird fishfinder
Gumar 8' RIB (Johnson 9.9)
Davids on transom

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1990, 3888 Motoryacht
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3888 (3870 & 3818) Owners 17 Dec 2011 18:39 #9

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1986 Bayliner 3870 "Simply Hawaiian"
Turbo Mitsubishi power - so far, running great.
8kw Westerbeke
All new Garmin 4210x2, HD radar, sounder, xm weather
Intellian i2 w/ Dishnetwork sat. tv
2 new Masterflush macerating heads

To do before summer: new isinglass topside, new water pump & shower drain pump, plus the usual yearly maintenence items.

Moved up from a Sea Ray 250 Sundancer...love the room!

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3888 (3870 & 3818) Owners 17 Oct 2012 19:25 #10

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We have owned our 1989 3888 Bayliner MY since 2004, purchased from the original owner. She has lived in fresh water her entire life with a majority of that time in Lake Superior. Prior to purchasing our Blue Ayes, we ran around in a Bayliner 2855 Contessa Command Bridge. We still own that one too, but she has been on shore being tended to on a "round-to-it" fix it ticket.1989 3888 Bayliner Motor Yacht "Blue Ayes"Twin EH700 175 hp Hino Engines8K Onan GeneratorFull Upper Station EnclosureCockpit CanapyRecovered solon cushionsReplaced curtains throughoutRecovered master stateroom bolstersReplaced carpet throughoutFitted exterior window privacy screensJRC 1800C Radar/Chart Plotter (upper and lower station)Humminbird 980c Sidescan/Fishfinder (upper station)Humminbird 920c Chart Plotter/Fishfinder (Cockpit)Standard Horizon VHF (upper station)Uniden Oceanic VHF (lower station)Galley & Wetbar appliances fully functionalMuir WindlessFuture plans include hardtop cockpit cover with enclosures above and around
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1989 3888 MY
Apostle Islands
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3888 (3870 & 3818) Owners 11 Jun 2014 20:41 #11

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Just found this owners list, and thought I would revive it.
Feel a little left out though as ours is a 3818. :(

I know that there are a few of us new 38XX owners on here.

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Joel
1987 3818 Hino 175
"Knotty Girl"
Prince Rupert B.C.
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3888 (3870 & 3818) Owners 12 Aug 2016 10:41 #12

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Just purchased a 1987 3818 with twin Hino E700's. It looks like previous owners were on the BOC in the past. It is the Molto Bella, previously the Second Chance. It needs a little TLC with the hoses and a rebuild on the alternator but has had some decent upgrades like a new radar arch and fresh upholstery above and below. Just bought a 11'5" Highfield CL340 aluminum hulled inflatable for the rear transom and plan on mounting my bauer air compressor onboard if I can find a good spot. Also fitting a scuba fin compatible swim ladder.

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3888 (3870 & 3818) Owners 12 Aug 2016 12:50 #13

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Hope you enjoy you're boat and she gives you years of great service!

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1989 3888
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3888 (3870 & 3818) Owners 12 Mar 2017 23:00 #14

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Just found this list.

Craig here from nanaimo bc, Canada.

Have a 1987 3818 for 6 months now. Lots of little things that really add up.

Fantastic boat and looking forward to a full summer in her.

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Nanaimo bc
1987 bayliner 3818
w/ 175 Hinos no Genny, but solar to run everything!
10ft Livingston with centre console and 15hp on davits / winch

3888 (3870 & 3818) Owners 14 Mar 2017 14:51 #15

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Also just found the list...
I managed to talk my wife into a 2 year liveaboard "trial" after our last kid went off to college. We found a spotless 1988 3818 that had been extremely well maintained and modified.

Hino EH700 175hp N/A
Westerbeke 8Kw generator
Webasto diesel heat
Furuno radar
Simrad chart plotter and autopilot
Ensign digital tach/sync
MicroCommander throttles with 3rd station in cockpit
Custom folding S/S radar arch
Underhull mods and spray rails
VacuFlush heads
Quartermaster 10 sailing dinghy w/crane for storage on flybridge extension

We are currently updating the galley with combo microwave/convection oven and induction cooktop; and converting the old stove/oven space to storage with new countertops.

My wife loves the lifestyle- this is her first experience as a liveaboard and she's already making a list of "must haves (washer/dryer etc) for our permanent liveaboard.

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3888 (3870 & 3818) Owners 14 Mar 2017 16:39 #16

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1984 3870 bought it 12 year's ago

new motor's trany and shaft
hull extension 36" hard top back deck hard top bridge
all new canvas 3 new helm seat on bridge
new vhf icom ploter garmin radar depth sounder
new fridge new AC water maker newport 400 on and on almost a new boat

its ok we love it
John and Kara
planing the loop

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3888 (3870 & 3818) Owners 15 Mar 2017 19:25 #17

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1983 3870
Bought the boat in March 2016 - Located in Seward, Alaska

Power - Cummins 6bta 315 hp - trany and shafts
Northern Lights Gen Set
Working on updating the interior starting with new salon cushions
Painted the wall paper and really helped brighten the interior

Moved up from a 3288 with twin gas 350 Chevy, loving the fuel economy and range of the new to us boat.

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"About Time"
1983 Bayliner 3870
Twin Cummins 6BTA (315hp)

3888 (3870 & 3818) Owners 15 Mar 2017 20:14 #18

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After ten years of lobbying the Admiral, last August, she decided it was time for a larger boat than our 1980 2950 Encounter Sunbridge. The main things on our list of must haves were easy access boarding and getting around aboard, a master bunk with access on both sides, great at the dock visibility. I wanted Diesel engines, inboard, Genset, decent fuel economy and functional electronics. Cockpit flush decks were out because "everything is up stairs". I showed her a 45 Bayliner, and she said it was too big. Back to the proverbial drawing board. The 38 filled the bill with the exception of the ladder to the flybridge, her position was, if it's there, I want to use it. After many hours of looking at the ladder on the 38 and comparing it to the molded steps on newer boats, I figured out how to repitch the ladder without terribly impacting the cockpit. Once that tent pole was covered it took about two weeks to find a workable 3818. Workable meaning the boat needed some things but overall it was in good shape, the price reflected the work to be done and the boat "spoke to me".
Since Labor Day 2016, I've replaced the black water system, replaced the batteries, diagnosed and corrected by replacing the shower sump pump, aft automatic bilge pump, factory battery charger and electric heaters, exhaust hose for the Genset, temp sending unit on Genset, and all of the misc pencil zincs that were used up. Diagnosted and corrected by correctly installing the inverter/charger and inverter system, the water tank level sending unit seal, VHF and Radar. I've also modified the stove cabinet by converting the locker under the stove to a drawer and creating a cabinet with two shelves in the cabinet cavity between the stove and the passageway. Ladder modifications are nearly complete with replacement of the treads from 4" deep teak to 8" deep ipe left to go and in work.
There is still a list of things to do like getting the name installed but that comes after buffing out the hull, rebedding the galley and guest stateroom windows, replacing the fuzzies in the sliding windows, replacing the canvas, resealing the rub rail, replacing the diesel heater, replacing the burned out indicator lights and replacing the carpets. Then there's the normal varnish the teak, scrub, wax and all the usual.
All in all we are enjoying the 38 and the ability to entertain aboard, the ability to move around at any speed and the ride in water that would have impacted our other boat.

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1980 Encounter Sunbridge "Misty Blue" (Sold)
MMSI 367770440
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Boating on the Salish Sea since 1948

3888 (3870 & 3818) Owners 26 Apr 2017 20:15 #19

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3870 with Mitsubishi's.

Currently re-building ladder, re-doing aft woodwork.

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1984 3870 with Mitsubishi's
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3888 (3870 & 3818) Owners 08 Aug 2017 11:55 #20

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Hi
Also just saw this list, great idea!!!!!

We've had our 3888 for about 8 yrs now and we're in our 3rd yr of doing the loop.

Projects so far:
Edlebrock carbs
Port motor manifold exhaust riser chemical clean
Garmin autopilot/740s chart plotter with fuel flow meters
Remote windlass controller
Led lighting
Xantrex 3000 inverter and house battery mods
R&R upper helm seating plus chart table/lighting
Ss bow kayak racks
Rear cockpit cantilever canvas
Weaver + Hurley dinghy davits

HMS Happy Happy
1989 3888
351 Windsor
9kw Onan
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3888 (3870 & 3818) Owners 08 Aug 2017 13:49 #21

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We purchased a 1986 3870, about 5 years ago. Every year we have upgraded a few things, trying to maintain some semblance of a budget. The list includes:

- SS risers
- all new exhaust hoses and cooling hoses
- serviced manicoolers, injectors and replaced all gaskets, bolts, belts, rear engine mounts, etc.
- new trani coolers with zincs
- paint and ceramic coat all engine parts (thank you Earl!)
- replaced all carpet with teak and holly flooring
- replaced counters with Granite Trasformations solid surfaces throughout
- LED lighting throughout
- new upholstery throughout
- new posterpedic custom mattresses
- upgraded aft secondary bilge pump to 3700 GPH, upgraded primary pump to 750 GPH
- added cockpit hardtop
- added flybridge PC top from Hard-To-Top
- added Garmin 741 radar / chart platter / WiFi
- added Garmin GP-10 autopilot
- added new VHF radio with DSC / MMSI
- added Kenwood stereo / BT / Pandora / Iheart
- applied prop speed (it works!)
- changed rub rail to new white rubber w/ chrome insert from Taco
- replaced hatches (scratched and leaked)
- added Racor fuel filters
- added 4.2 kw generator (original was missing). Sized to add inverter for peak loads, but not added yet.
- refinished all interior teak and replaced all cabinet hardware with contemporary hardware
- added 3M pinnacle tint to all windows to block UV and reduce heat loading. Added black mesh shades.
- replaced kitchen and stateroom long windows with new, 1-piece tinted windows
- rebuilt the radar arch and replaced the rotten wood, cleaned up the fiberglass

List of things to do yet (next few years as time and budget allow):
- 3 kw inverter that syncs with generator during peak loads + add more batteries
- replace cockpit edge upholstery
- artificial teak flooring in cockpit, swim platform and flybridge???
- paint and detail the bilge
- organize bilge space for tools / spare parts / docking equipment etc.
- LED lighting in engine room
- fix Princess oven bake element (only will broil!)
- fix ice maker water inlet
- fix upper helm steering that has a slow leak
- time to redo rear cockpit teak around the back door
- replace sliding door hardware
- add venturi to AC condensate lines to get the bilge dry
- new chain and anchor rope
- i see the starboard rudder shaft weeps slowly...
- forward AC and temp controller is original and probably will need some attention in the coming year or two...
- some faucets I replaced 5 years ago show some surface corrosion...I will need to replace them again if I want the interior perfect...

To my eye...all I see are the things that still need improvement. I do get questions from other boaters, though, asking if the boat is new and did Bayliner go back into production on that model. The rub rail in particular really helps modernize the appearance from the dock. When detailed nicely + rub rail + window tint + 2 hard tops...it looks very nice.

BTW - after Earl's tune-up and a good bottom cleaning, fresh fuel, half tanks...I am able to achieve 17 knots with 175 Hinos. I think that was the original claim from the factory.

A recent 9 hour run at 15 knots burned around 150 gallons. I had the bottom pressure washed the day before we did this though. 1/8th inch of slime and some barnacles on trim tabs and shafts slows the boat immediately by 3 to 5 knots. Barnacles on the props and I cannot get up on a plane. I keep the boat in a high-growth area. Monthly bottom cleaning is mandatory if you want to get the boat to plane. This year I used Prop Speed on the props only. After 4 months they were still shiny and new looking. It really helped.

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Did you do something special to bring back the luster of the gel coat?
I've done several "Admiral's list" projects that have gotten other Captains revised orders. One was revising the pitch of the ladder and increasing tread size. It's not complete because the bottom, removable step is in revision. Changing the locker under the stove to a drawer the adding a pantry to the end cabinet that was wasted space. Revising the salon to cabin steps increasing tread width and adding a flip door to the top step for trash and recycling.
I plan to steam clean starting in the engine room then top to bottom as soon as I get properly recovered from back surgery August 1st - so far so good. Five more weeks minimum.
I'd love to see how you did your salon teak & holly. Did you remove your cabinets?

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Pcpete,

I have paid to have the boat professionally compounded and waxed yearly. It makes a big difference. It was a lot of work initially. Now the yearly job takes about 8 hours for 2 pros plus all their equipment. The results are about 80% to 90% of what it likely looked when new. There are a few persistent stains on the gelcoat that have never really come out. They have just faded. In bright sunlight you cannot see them. On an overcast day...I sure see them! Since we are in salt water, there is a daily bath in suds and fresh water when in use. My 13 year old is very thorough! I have had to use West Marine black streak remover on a monthly basis to keep the residue from the window frames from leaving their mark on the gel coat.

I like your suggested cabinet and step changes. The cabinet under the stove is one of the most poorly utilized spaces on the boat.

My son and I steam cleaned all the monkey fur (grey wall fabric) when we first purchased the boat. We used 2x detergent recommended and went over every inch 2x or more. The water sucked up from the cleaning was as dark as black coffee!!! That is what 30 years of mildew, dirt, diesel soot, etc. looks like! We poured out about 5 gallons of this filthy water when finished. It was amazing. The fabric did not look too dirty but the boat had a "boat smell" to it. After removing the carpet, steam cleaning the monkey fur and using fabuloso in the bilge...the boat smelled like fresh laundry! We also added a solar vent at that time. To this day, the boat still smells good.

I did not remove any cabinets. I did get rid of the built in blender apparatus and I changed out all the sinks and faucets and hardware.

I have few pics that specifically show off the changes. The best of the flooring is attached. Later this month I can take a good photo spread that show the changes.

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I need to replace all the strips around my windshield. I can not find them anywhere. I have a 1985 3870. Picture of the cross section of the strips is attached. Also a picture of the vessel Sea Wolfie.

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Any pictures to share. I would love to replace all the carpeting.

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