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2452 Owners 20 Sep 2010 20:17 #51

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Well, we are home long enough and the boat is back from the shop so we can start the window coverings with Phifertex Plus. We went with the black button tabs to make it unremarkable vice using the aluminum satin finish. Got the stbd and port side done and working on the front cabin windows. Plan to tackle the cockpit enclosure in the next couple of weeks.

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Well front window is done but I ran out of snaps. Will finish Thursday... Then the cockpit covers...

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Snaps will tighten the covers...

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I am a new member.....I recently purchased a used 2002 / 2452 ciera.....and am considering adding an auto pilot......has anyone had one installed recently? If so, what type/and brand did you use? How does it work??.....I had an older 2450 and it had an auto pilot that was all but worthless....I would like to avoid the same mistake.

I am not sure if the boat has mechanical steering or power steering???? or power assisted steering.....I have not yet taken possession so but will soon.

Also want to add capstan for anchor retival......any help or info would be apperciated.

Mack

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Hi Mack, Welcome to the world of 2452's... I installed a Raytheon ST 5000+ autopilot. Any autopilot you decide on you will get the best results by upgrading the heading sensor to one that is more sensitive. That was probably your problem with your old boat. They work well. Feel free to check out the mods I have done on my 2001 2452... My heading sensor is installed under the cabin step directly on center...

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My windlass is a Simpson Lawrence Sprint. I have some photos of the wiring to the helm and along the stbd side...

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I am about to add LEDs under the swimstep as my next project... I'll post photos in the 2452 album when complete...

You are going to love the 2452. We take ours out for weeks at a time...

So where are you from?

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Go Aweigh2452;510530 wrote: Hi Mack, Welcome to the world of 2452's... I installed a Raytheon ST 5000+ autopilot. Any autopilot you decide on you will get the best results by upgrading the heading sensor to one that is more sensitive.


Hey Doug,

Does you autopilot trun your steering wheel, or does it move the steering linkage back by the engine?

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2859er;510537 wrote: Hey Doug,

Does you autopilot trun your steering wheel, or does it move the steering linkage back by the engine?


It has a reversing hydraulic gear pump behind the engine with a rudder position transducer. The only item at the helm is the electronic gauge that indicates the fluxgate compass heading and allows me to lock on to a specific heading or travel to a waypoint which then allows the boat to head a different heading in order to get to the waypoint. There is some wander but I can refine that with a couple of +/- buttons that take away the normal 10* heading drift.

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BTW, It does turn the steering wheel... One time a while back I inadvertantly hit the autohelm as I was backing out of a slip and I could not turn the steering wheel at all. I got back into the slip and then realized I had Autohelm engaged. I could not turn that wheel and I really tried...

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Go Aweigh2452;510634 wrote: It has a reversing hydraulic gear pump behind the engine with a rudder position transducer. The only item at the helm is the electronic gauge that indicates the fluxgate compass heading and allows me to lock on to a specific heading or travel to a waypoint which then allows the boat to head a different heading in order to get to the waypoint. There is some wander but I can refine that with a couple of +/- buttons that take away the normal 10* heading drift.

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Go Aweigh2452;510634 wrote: It has a reversing hydraulic gear pump behind the engine with a rudder position transducer. The only item at the helm is the electronic gauge that indicates the fluxgate compass heading and allows me to lock on to a specific heading or travel to a waypoint which then allows the boat to head a different heading in order to get to the waypoint. There is some wander but I can refine that with a couple of +/- buttons that take away the normal 10* heading drift.

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thanks for the info. I am sure that we will love the boat as well.....we just moved to fort pierce florida...... I am retired and like to fish....... did you do much research on other types of auto pilots? Yes, one of the problems that I had with the old ciera at 1995 version, was wander....also it droped off line at cruise speed in rough water......also would not work at troll speed......because of wander .....it would just loose heading on a regular basis. It was truly worthless....and back then I shelled out almost 3 grand for buying and installing it......

Does the 2452 have hydrolic power steering, power assist, or manual steering? I have not found out that infor anywhere online.

How do you like the anchor retrevial system that you put in? How much line can the storage hold on the boat... did it require extra support for mouning or did the Bayliner design a reinforced area for installation....

Thanks for the input.....look forward to visiting with you again.

Mack

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Love the windlass. I currently have 30 ft of chain and 150 ft of line but I think it could hold another 50'... no extra decking required. the forwared deck is surprisingly thick.

The steering is via the power steering pump on the engine. Though if that kicks out, I can manually drive but with effort. As now, its a one finger control of steering.

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Here's mine!

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LazyCrusr;510877 wrote: Here's mine!
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Lazy,
I noticed your stern is in the trailering position & what is that steel plate for.
Nice boat :)

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onthelake;510890 wrote: Lazy,
I noticed your stern is in the trailering position & what is that steel plate for.
Nice boat :)


Why thank you!
Steel plate is a 'whale tail' - I forget the real name but it's supposed to improve handling & get on plane faster. This will come off as soon as I take the boat out of the water now that I have gotten my trim tabs working.

The motor is way up cuz the water is so shallow there and we were parked for an o'night there.

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Greetings All,

New to the forum. First post. I'm an Uber Noob to power boating and live in Ketchikan Alaska. Bought a 1995 2452 w/10hrs on carb'd 5.7 Merc Bravo II repower. Hourmeter on dash says boat has 290hrs. Boat lived in fresh water until today, has fresh water cooling and no bottom paint (so no wet slip for now). The BravoII wears a 18.5" SS 4 blade 21pitch prop and the GPS says we hit 40mph at 4500rpm on flat water with no wind. Motor felt like it would rev a bit higher, but I was hesitant to push it with so few hours on it. Seller says the 5.7 is a 300hp motor. Does this sound correct for a 40mph WOT? Is 40mph a typical top speed? Thanks, John

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johnak308;512744 wrote: Greetings All,

New to the forum. First post. I'm an Uber Noob to power boating and live in Ketchikan Alaska. Bought a 1995 2452 w/10hrs on carb'd 5.7 Merc Bravo II repower. Hourmeter on dash says boat has 290hrs. Boat lived in fresh water until today, has fresh water cooling and no bottom paint (so no wet slip for now). The BravoII wears a 18.5" SS 4 blade 21pitch prop and the GPS says we hit 40mph at 4500rpm on flat water with no wind. Motor felt like it would rev a bit higher, but I was hesitant to push it with so few hours on it. Seller says the 5.7 is a 300hp motor. Does this sound correct for a 40mph WOT? Is 40mph a typical top speed? Thanks, John


5.7 2bbl is 250hp+
5.7 EFI is 260hp+
MAG MPI is 300hp
MX 6.2 MPI is 320hp (6.2 is a modified 5.7)
6.2 HO is 330hp

40mph is about right...

My 5.7 BII also had a 4 blade ss.

You can go on line and find a free owners manual from Bayliner and get more info on your engine.

PM me your email if you want and I will send you a 5.0/5.7/6.2 engine manual in pdf format.

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Doug, Thanks for the prompt reply and offer to send manuals. I have the original manuals, but the motor was rebuilt by S&S in Spokane, so it is not stock: bored .040" over, marine cam, 2.02 SS valves, Edlebrock air gap intake. etc.
Not sure if there is a rule of thumb for HP needed to push a 2452 to a particular velocity, given correct prop and trim. Probably something I'll ponder while I winterize the new toy.
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Well finally after a couple of days of drilling holes in the boat and trying to fit a 225# guy into an area in the engine bay not designed to fit that size, I finally got the LED's on the stern done.

What I did: Bought the 80,000 hour marine version of LED's from Oznium.com. Got 4 cool white ($18/light) and 2 blue LED's ($20/light). They come with about 2 feet of wire, one red and one black. I hit Harbor Freight for shrink wrap and crimp connectors that heat shrink too plus a rubber covered switch. I slid 22" of 1/4" shrink wrap tubing over each pair of LED wires, then grouped those inside the transom with wider 5/8" shrink wrap. Then I crimped/shrunk all red wires to a #10 red wire and did the same for the black wires. The LED's come with predrilled .118 holes which I expanded to .25 so I could use bigger bolts (6/32). The head of the stainless steel bolts were too big since they rubbed up against the LED housing. I ground them down significantly to fit against the housing of the LED's. I then removed each trim tab and drilled .25" holes using my drill press to hold each LED. (I attempted to drill holes through the tabs using my electric drill and soon gave up going through 1/4" stainless steel.) I attached two white LED's per trim tab and the blue LED's were attached to either side of the outdrive against the stern. I ran the shrink wrapped wires through the transom after attaching them to the trim tab cylinders with double plastic ties and wire loops through the stern holes I drilled above the water line. I left enough wire to allow the trim tabs full down position. BTW, each screw hole in the stern was filled with white 5200 and screwed in holding all wires against the stern. I added Capt Tolly's crack seal to all the LED's even though they are designed for marine use and added black 3M5200 to the LED where the wires enter the lights. Ran a switch and fuse to the stern next to the aft seat to power them.

The LED's are pretty bright (white are 6500K and blue are 3300K) but only draw about 330mA/light. Now we have another reason to go out shortly and overnight someplace like Blake Island... Will post night shots at that time...

This is what they look like out of the box...

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here they are on the trim tabs...

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I plan to run a remote switch to allow me to strobe the lights and turn them on/off sometime in the future...
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Gday all, my name is Dave, I live in New Zealand I am new to this site joined about a week ago all good so far. I have owned a 1992 2452 for 5 years "good boats but a bit heavy in the rear" Just upgraded to a cloased cooled 260 hp efi merc on a b2 with Ktype gearing with a large 3 blade alloy 18 pitch" prop, goes well, would recomend the upgrade. My problem is the x4 engine housing vents to the rear of the boat. I have been trying to source new ones for about 18 months and am out of options as to where to look next, any ideas would be apperciated. Thanx Dave...........

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dave754;521732 wrote: Gday all, my name is Dave, I live in New Zealand I am new to this site joined about a week ago all good so far. I have owned a 1992 2452 for 5 years "good boats but a bit heavy in the rear" Just upgraded to a cloased cooled 260 hp efi merc on a b2 with Ktype gearing with a large 3 blade alloy 18 pitch" prop, goes well, would recomend the upgrade. My problem is the x4 engine housing vents to the rear of the boat. I have been trying to source new ones for about 18 months and am out of options as to where to look next, any ideas would be apperciated. Thanx Dave...........


Are you talking about the engine bay vents either side of the hull? If you have access to a Bayliner dealer, they can order them for your boat...

The number is 9816 and they call it a "White Louver" you will need four of them.
Check this site for parts. BTW, they start with 1993 but that is the same hull.
http://www.baylinercustomercare.com/catalogs_index.html

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@Go Aweigh2452

Been looking at your pictures of your boat and mods. Some impressive. Your doing a great job.

I ran across this pic, (see attachment), and was wondering about the panel where the Throttle/shifter is mounted. How is that attached and how do you get it off?? I have a 2000 2452 and was looking at mine and can't see how to do it. I want to get at the Throttle/shifter to do some maintenance but I did not want to force anything and break something. In your pic it looks like snaps at the top. Is that all there is to it or am I wrong here??

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There should be screws under the edge of the folds in the vinyl....

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ONE SHOT;521954 wrote: There should be screws under the edge of the folds in the vinyl....

Thanks friend. I will check that out tomorrow!

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Yep, two screws, one under each fold of the vinyl. On the 2001 and later they bolted the panel onto the side and you can only access from under the seat and removing a wood panel that blocks the nuts... a real PITA... I'm about to rip it out as I have a hard time fitting in there and need to access to put more electronics in there. Really a stupid way Bayliner did that...

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