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2452 Owners 13 Sep 2011 20:05 #401

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The transom end fittings on our swim grid handrails have split. Does anyone know what the tube diameter is? I forgot to measure them before leaving the boat on Sunday.

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over40pirate;611700 wrote: my washout pump is down there and its not working guess I'm going to do just that crawl down there and get it out.


But will you fit,,,have room to work?
I'm not big, but I doubt that I can fit there!

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LazyCrusr;611723 wrote: But will you fit,,,have room to work?
I'm not big, but I doubt that I can fit there!


You would be surprised at were you can crawl in a boat. My wash down pump is within reach just a foot or two in front of the floor hatch stbd side. I just leaned in upside down to test electric on it. Pretty sure I can reach screws holding it down. I guess you could put an access hatch in the floor above. Depending on were yours are located. Just don't know how much weight (people walking it) they are made to handle. Call WM and tell them what you want to do and see if they think it can handle people walking on them.

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captharv;611457 wrote: This is due to prop torque using a right hand prop. This is where the Bennetts will work to level the boat


Don't 2452s have a tab on the lower unit just behind prop to compensate for this you can loosen it an turn right or left. I would think that the prop torque would just push the stern left or right not make the whole boat list

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over40pirate;611762 wrote: Don't 2452s have a tab on the lower unit just behind prop to compensate for this you can loosen it an turn right or left. I would think that the prop torque would just push the stern left or right not make the whole boat list


The purpose of the tab, called a trim tab, is to counter the torque effect on the drive steering. Sorta to balance the staeering force in both directions, not the boat.
Steering torque is also there at low speed. A right hand screw boat backs to port initially. I put in right rudder whenbacking, and turn toward center as the boat picks up momemtum. Ever wonder why the boat backs better to port?
Think about it; you are putting the torque of the engine, which can easily hit 250 ft pounds on todays engine into a prop turning clockwise, which its reacaction is going counterclockwise.......As you go faster, the boat goes in a straight line, teh torque twists the boat.
law of physics....

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ONE SHOT;611709 wrote: The transom end fittings on our swim grid handrails have split. Does anyone know what the tube diameter is? I forgot to measure them before leaving the boat on Sunday.

The parts catalog is no help on this one: Swim step page.

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over40pirate;611758 wrote: You would be surprised at were you can crawl in a boat. My wash down pump is within reach just a foot or two in front of the floor hatch stbd side. I just leaned in upside down to test electric on it. Pretty sure I can reach screws holding it down. I guess you could put an access hatch in the floor above. Depending on were yours are located. Just don't know how much weight (people walking it) they are made to handle. Call WM and tell them what you want to do and see if they think it can handle people walking on them.


Well, I'd say that mine is more like 4ft from that hatch.
I dunno, but will surely try it. I hate the notion of cutting into my floor! :eek:
And I'm sure I'd botch it up somehow,,,,not much of an artisan here ;)

thank you, Pirate!

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Sarah, I had the unfortunate job of crawling into my stbd deck hatch on my belly to clean out my fresh water strainer that was just out of reach of the hatch (towards bow). It wasn't fun but I was able to get on my side once in there and deal with it. I'm 5'8" and 160lbs at 40 yrs old. It was quite the struggle getting out and I'd recommend having help on board, but it's totally doable. Seeing how we've seen your pics this summer, I'm guessing you can do it better than I!

I hate cuttting holes and will avoid if I can.

Now next I have to deal with the macerator pump, I may cut a hole this time! :)

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Wow, you fit in that little space?? And could actually move enough to work & use tools?
Well that puts a little pressure on me now,,,,,:surr

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Go Aweigh2452;611698 wrote: I have a nice shop now. It's only 38x40 but two stories. First floor 13' and second floor is 10' with a dornered south face. That's my wood working and polishing metal area. First floor as a pit 15x3x5'8" with removable grates I can drive over. My boat fits one side when I remove the radar. I restored a few cars in there but now just mess around a lot with smaller restoration projects, etc. I had a 6 window chevy truck a long time ago...


That sounds like a sweet set up. Yeah its always fun to have someplace to build stuff. Its pretty much a requirement to have a shop in AK since 9 months out of the year it sucks to be a shade tree mechanic.

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TimeOut 2452;612121 wrote: Sarah, I had the unfortunate job of crawling into my stbd deck hatch on my belly to clean out my fresh water strainer that was just out of reach of the hatch (towards bow). It wasn't fun but I was able to get on my side once in there and deal with it. I'm 5'8" and 160lbs at 40 yrs old. It was quite the struggle getting out and I'd recommend having help on board, but it's totally doable. Seeing how we've seen your pics this summer, I'm guessing you can do it better than I!

I hate cuttting holes and will avoid if I can.

Now next I have to deal with the macerator pump, I may cut a hole this time! :)


Good job and good luck, I'm not looking forward to alot of the crawling through my boat, I'm 5'8" and 250 lbs. good thing i'm a confined space rescue tech so i'm not to uncomfortable with tight spaces haha.

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57chevy;612543 wrote: Good job and good luck, I'm not looking forward to alot of the crawling through my boat, I'm 5'8" and 250 lbs. good thing i'm a confined space rescue tech so i'm not to uncomfortable with tight spaces haha.



Wasilla,,,,,Wasilla Alaska,,,,hhhhhmm, who else have I heard of from there? :p

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yep its funny how our mid sized town is now well known becuase of palin.

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Can you see Russia from there? :D

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ONE SHOT;611709 wrote: The transom end fittings on our swim grid handrails have split. Does anyone know what the tube diameter is? I forgot to measure them before leaving the boat on Sunday.

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Well the tubing is 7/8" dia. I picked up a couple of Victory T fittings. the width spacing of the screw holes are correct but the height spacing of the holes are 3/16" out. Would like to find proper spaced ones if I can before I start filing out the screw holes.

Does any one know where one can get OEM parts for this.

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You should be able to get them direct from Bayliner/Searay. They are a big replacement item. I went with stainless steel and got them from http://www.marinepartdepot.com/newststre90d3.html

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Go Aweigh2452;614439 wrote: You should be able to get them direct from Bayliner/Searay. They are a big replacement item. I went with stainless steel and got them from http://www.marinepartdepot.com/newststre90d3.html


Doug, did you find the hole spacing/locations to be the same or did you have to redrill the holes in your transom?

Thanks

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ONE SHOT;614537 wrote: Doug, did you find the hole spacing/locations to be the same or did you have to redrill the holes in your transom?

Thanks


I had to fill the old holes on one side and used the existing holes on the other. The base is larger than the Zmac originals so its not a big deal filling with 5200 and then covering it with the new fitting

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good morning!

If your boats are like mine, and I think that they are,,,,, they have very spartan seats at the stern which are not very comfy at all. I'm wondering if any of you have upgraded this seating to make it a bit more plush?

Open to any ideas, especially if they're reasonable to the 'ol boat fund!

thanks for any & all suggestions!
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I purchased a 1995 2452 classic about a month ago. Glad to see others enjoy this boat as much as I do.

Has anyone moved weight to make it not lean to port ? I was thinking about moving one battery to the other side. I removed the fridge when it crapped out and that didn't help at all.

Jim

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LazyCrusr;614774 wrote: good morning!

If your boats are like mine, and I think that they are,,,,, they have very spartan seats at the stern which are not very comfy at all. I'm wondering if any of you have upgraded this seating to make it a bit more plush?

Open to any ideas, especially if they're reasonable to the 'ol boat fund!

thanks for any & all suggestions!
Sarah


Now that is a tough one... All we could do was get a couple of square throw cushions and lean against them in the corners of the boat.

I purchased a 1995 2452 classic about a month ago. Glad to see others enjoy this boat as much as I do.

Has anyone moved weight to make it not lean to port ? I was thinking about moving one battery to the other side. I removed the fridge when it crapped out and that didn't help at all.

Jim

Jim, welcome to the zoo. 2452's are great boats. It hard to fix the leaning no matter what you do. I found that adding 2" of memory foam to the inside of the front berth cover, we got less leaning and better sleeping... I think it probably added about 40#'s up there. I also stored my downrigger weights, spare prop, tools, and anything else that was on the heavy side under the forward berth.

On your boat with the batteries on the port side makes for a tough challenge to move a battery to the stbd side. We had a 9.9 Honda hanging on the port side of the swim step as well so I know what you have for a lean.

Unless you can do what I suggested above, you'll have to live with it.

If you are leaning while underway, just play with the trim tabs. They are meant to be deployed separately so you can minimize the leaning.

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Go Aweigh2452;614875 wrote: Now that is a tough one... All we could do was get a couple of square throw cushions and lean against them in the corners of the boat.

Jim, welcome to the zoo. 2452's are great boats. It hard to fix the leaning no matter what you do. I found that adding 2" of memory foam to the inside of the front berth cover, we got less leaning and better sleeping... I think it probably added about 40#'s up there. I also stored my downrigger weights, spare prop, tools, and anything else that was on the heavy side under the forward berth.

On your boat with the batteries on the port side makes for a tough challenge to move a battery to the stbd side. We had a 9.9 Honda hanging on the port side of the swim step as well so I know what you have for a lean.

Unless you can do what I suggested above, you'll have to live with it.

If you are leaning while underway, just play with the trim tabs. They are meant to be deployed separately so you can minimize the leaning.



Thanks, already tried everything you mentioned.

Other than my gangster lean, I love it.

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Found out today that the floor in the port side floor hatch is rotted. Anybody know if this is an indication of some bigger problems?

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LazyCrusr;611723 wrote: But will you fit,,,have room to work?
I'm not big, but I doubt that I can fit there!


Hey Sarah don't know if your still looking for access under the deck. And you may already know this but just above the step into cabin is an access hatch to just in front of the tanks.

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Over40, I saw that panel as well, but couldn't figure out how to open it. Is is screwed in or glued in? I'd love to use that to access the macerator for easier replacement.

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