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Prepping For Irma: Which Battery Are Bilge Pumps On? 04 Sep 2017 15:47 #1

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We are currently in Marathon, FL - which leaves us square in the path of the oncoming Irma.

We are working now to prep our 4788 to leave behind at a marina dock while we evacuate to the mainland - and I am trying to figure out how to maximize the potential bilge pump running time.

Looking at the (poor quality) schematic I found online, it looks as if the 4788 automatic bilge pumps are wired directly to the engine starting battery. Is this correct? Which one - Port or Starboard?

Is there an easy way to let the bilge pumps tap into the house battery as well?

Any other tips for securing a 4788 for a major hurricane hit?

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Prepping For Irma: Which Battery Are Bilge Pumps On? 04 Sep 2017 20:56 #2

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The bilge pumps are typically wired directly to your starter batteries. Not the house bank. A PO could have changed this. You could always add a few batteries to your starter bank. I am typically more worried about the wind and storm surge then the rain water getting in the bilge.

For hurricane prep, talk to your neighbors, but this is what I do before I leave:

Double all lines. Add extra spring lines both sides
Take down all canvas.
Take off all shore power connections
Turn off all D.C. and AC power
Remove all food from fridge
Fenders against all pilings
Drop anchor
Verify all auto bilge pumps are work/test the float switches.

Hope it heads out to sea.
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Prepping For Irma: Which Battery Are Bilge Pumps On? 04 Sep 2017 21:09 #3

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Prepping For Irma: Which Battery Are Bilge Pumps On? 05 Sep 2017 04:07 #4

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IMO , run as far north and inland as you can and have it hauled, the docks in the keys are going under water for sure .
I am concerned about my Tampa bay winter house getting wet:(
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Prepping For Irma: Which Battery Are Bilge Pumps On? 05 Sep 2017 06:25 #5

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You should have a battery selector switch on a panel, probably in the engine room. I *believe* (although I'm not positive) that if you set the selector switch to A+B, that would link the starting and house battery, and essentially give the bilge pumps twice as much run time. Of course, if the bilge pumps drain both batteries, you can't start the engines without recharging them first. Someone please correct me if I've mis-spoken on this (I have a 38xx rather than a 47xx).

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Prepping For Irma: Which Battery Are Bilge Pumps On? 05 Sep 2017 10:14 #6

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Technomadia wrote: We are currently in Marathon, FL - which leaves us square in the path of the oncoming Irma.

We are working now to prep our 4788 to leave behind at a marina dock while we evacuate to the mainland - and I am trying to figure out how to maximize the potential bilge pump running time.

Looking at the (poor quality) schematic I found online, it looks as if the 4788 automatic bilge pumps are wired directly to the engine starting battery. Is this correct? Which one - Port or Starboard?

Is there an easy way to let the bilge pumps tap into the house battery as well?

Any other tips for securing a 4788 for a major hurricane hit?

Thanks,

- Chris


Chris, in the cupboard on left entry to salon, you can turn the rotary switches one at a time to then test if the bilge pumps are connected to either the start batteries or house battery. But I wouldn't be worried about your bilge pumps. If it was me, I'd be high tailing it outta there up to Fort Myers or Cape Coral. It's only a days trek. It's a lottery what direction Irma will take, but the West Coast certainly provides better protection.

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Prepping For Irma: Which Battery Are Bilge Pumps On? 05 Sep 2017 11:14 #7

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I'm not a boat/hurricane expert but you guys need to stop worrying about bilge pumps and get the hell out of there. The current track is almost dead at you and they just announced as of 7:13AM DST that Irma is at 150 MPH headed to a Cat 5. Move north out of the path seems like the logical move to me.

Update it just went to Cat 5 at 170+ MPH

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Prepping For Irma: Which Battery Are Bilge Pumps On? 05 Sep 2017 21:05 #8

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I know nothing about hurricanes, but I agree with everyone else, your priority is getting your family to a safer place!

If you insist on doing prep work, I would:
  • remove everything from your exterior decks that may block a drain
  • ensure your drains are clear and clean
  • duct tape shut all hatches (watertight seal)
  • drop as many fenders and tie as many dock lines as you can
If your bilge pumps are working, accept it and move on, don't try improve or monkey with that system. Focus on keeping water out. Maybe setting the battery switch to A+B to maximize pump runtime? I have zero experience with tropical storms.

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Prepping For Irma: Which Battery Are Bilge Pumps On? 05 Sep 2017 22:45 #9

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Sportscar wrote: I'm not a boat/hurricane expert but you guys need to stop worrying about bilge pumps and get the hell out of there. The current track is almost dead at you and they just announced as of 7:13AM DST that Irma is at 150 MPH headed to a Cat 5. Move north out of the path seems like the logical move to me.

Update it just went to Cat 5 at 170+ MPH


+1 to this. I've lived on the gulf coast for nearly 30 years and know a few things about hurricanes (we just went through Harvey). Given where you are, the strength and forecasted path of this storm, I would try to get the hell out of there. Best guess at this point would say head up the east coast of FL if you can find a safe spot there. The storm doesn't really arrive until Saturday so you have a few days. If you left tomorrow, you could probably make it to Jacksonville and get into the river away from the coast.

If you elect to stay, contact your insurance company and make sure you've complied with all of the conditions on your policy.

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Prepping For Irma: Which Battery Are Bilge Pumps On? 05 Sep 2017 22:56 #10

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From what I understand of Irma and it's current strength, you could throw 10 bilge pumps into the boat and it may not help.

I would be firing up the boat and heading hell-bent-for-leather up to the Tampa area....PRONTO.

I would not expect the boat to survive a Cat 5 Hurricane strike.

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Prepping For Irma: Which Battery Are Bilge Pumps On? 05 Sep 2017 23:24 #11

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We live right between Tampa and Orlando, will decide Friday to GET OUT OF DODGE or not. Forget about running up the east coast, as thats the strongest side of any storm. The west coast of Fl from Naples up to and just above Tampa is forecasted to get hit. Either leave the boat and save your self or head for Pensacola or FtWalton/Destin.
In 2004 we had the eye of Charlie come within 8 miles of our home before veering off towards Orlando. Winds were at 110 mph constant for a hr, 75-90 mph for 2 hrs. In1992 I went down to Homestead the day after Andrew went thru..... complete devastation! This past spring Iproff and I went on a short vacation to Marathon, a Cat 4 will wipe it out off the map, a Cat 5..OMG!

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Prepping For Irma: Which Battery Are Bilge Pumps On? 06 Sep 2017 02:46 #12

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Pray your insurance will replace your boat and drive NW as soon as you can.

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Prepping For Irma: Which Battery Are Bilge Pumps On? 06 Sep 2017 04:03 #13

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If it's not too late I would head south to Belize if you have the time speed and fuel to make it. There was a couple on here that went from Marathon to there but they got fuel in Cuba. The storm will head north not south. If a Cat 5 hits Marathon straight on there won't be much left.

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Prepping For Irma: Which Battery Are Bilge Pumps On? 07 Sep 2017 03:22 #14

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FYI - we never had any intention of trying to ride out the storm aboard in Marathon, and we took advantage of loaner truck to get out of the Keys so that we can at the very least make sure that our other home (our bus) is safe.

So that is where we are now... We spent yesterday getting the boat as secure as could be, and now we are in Melbourne, FL prepping our bus to travel further north.

Hopefully our boat will still be floating when we get back to her.

Here is our latest post on our evacuation:
www.technomadia.com/2017/09/hurricane-ir...ation-status-update/

Stay safe everyone!

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Prepping For Irma: Which Battery Are Bilge Pumps On? 07 Sep 2017 03:54 #15

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Here's a video on how well a Marina did at St Martin.
Glad your safe and you can always buy another boat.

www.express.co.uk/news/weather/850691/Hu...in-devastation-video

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Prepping For Irma: Which Battery Are Bilge Pumps On? 08 Sep 2017 02:52 #16

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Chris - good luck man! I hope you and your wife are safely north in the bus and the boat also survives. I pray the forecasts are wrong as devistation is expected!

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Prepping For Irma: Which Battery Are Bilge Pumps On? 13 Sep 2017 15:19 #17

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Technomadia -
FWIW- I believe you made a great call to get out of there when you did, glad to hear your AOK.
They have the new sat photos up post IRMA and you can scout the pics for your boat. I think I have it spotted and its sideways across the slip and at a fairly high angle port to stb. at the stern.
Good luck and hope this helps
Here is the link...
storms.ngs.noaa.gov/storms/irma/index.html
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Thank you all.. we made it to southern Alabama in our bus. We have been monitoring reports out of Marathon very closely, and acquiring as many photos, videos and links as possible to assess from afar. For now, unlike many other boats in the area, it seems she is floating and we have a friend who stayed behind who got a satellite message out to us on Sunday that "boat looks good". The marina manager is a friend and is trying to get us further information as well as he makes his way back.

The NOAA images also help of course and we can see the lines still left. We (and many others who have analyzed the images for us) do not believe Y-Not to be listing as the satellite image might indicate. If you compare to the pilings, shadows and other boats, it seems it's just the photo angle.

We know we made the best decision we could to get ourselves to safety and save at least one of our nomadic homes (the RV also parked in the path of Irma). There was limited time to orchestrate it all, no time for second guessing and no clear direction to head that would have ensured greater protection. We now have hope that Y-Not might have survived too.

We now are plotting our way back, picking up supplies, allowing long term residents to get in first, trying not to be a burden and hopefully continue to get reports so we can return prepared with what we need to prevent further damage and assist others in their recovery efforts.

- Cherie (and Chris)

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Prepping For Irma: Which Battery Are Bilge Pumps On? 13 Sep 2017 23:00 #19

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smitty477 wrote: Technomadia -
FWIW- I believe you made a great call to get out of there when you did, glad to hear your AOK.
They have the new sat photos up post IRMA and you can scout the pics for your boat. I think I have it spotted and its sideways across the slip and at a fairly high angle port to stb. at the stern.
Good luck and hope this helps
Here is the link...
storms.ngs.noaa.gov/storms/irma/index.html


Forgive my ignorance, but after clicking on the link, I only see a broad map, no images. What am I not doing properly?

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smitty477 wrote: Technomadia -
FWIW- I believe you made a great call to get out of there when you did, glad to hear your AOK.
They have the new sat photos up post IRMA and you can scout the pics for your boat. I think I have it spotted and its sideways across the slip and at a fairly high angle port to stb. at the stern.
Good luck and hope this helps
Here is the link...
storms.ngs.noaa.gov/storms/irma/index.html


Forgive my ignorance, but after clicking on the link, I only see a broad map, no images. What am I not doing properly?


Jeff, just keep zooming in like on google earth,
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Jeffw wrote: Forgive my ignorance, but after clicking on the link, I only see a broad map, no images. What am I not doing properly?


Zoom in to Marathon, FL. Then compare what you see with the aerial photo of the marina here: www.technomadia.com/2017/09/hurricane-ir...becomes-ground-zero/
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By the way, we now have a "head on" shot of Y-Not in her slip.. and no listing!

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Technomadia wrote: By the way, we now have a "head on" shot of Y-Not in her slip.. and no listing!


Good to hear! Here's hoping any superficial damage is limited and repairable. When do you think you'll get back down there??

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Chris and Cherie, for some reason I thought you were up in Tampa area. You definitely dodged a bullet!

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