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charts, we don't need no stinkin' charts!! 25 Sep 2007 19:17 #1

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This happened Sept. 16 just off Garry Point on the Fraser River. The boat tried to go over the rock breakwater at high tide and ran aground. He is headed to the tidal flats at the end of Vancouver airport. If he had been successful going over the breakwater he would have run aground on the mud flats. The CG would have had to send a hovercraft to get him out. The rock breakwater continues for 4 miles to the end of the river and is well marked.
I guess some people don't think they need boating courses. BTW, it looks like a 3258.

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charts, we don't need no stinkin' charts!! 25 Sep 2007 21:43 #2

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It's easy to see how he could miss that little, almost obscure, marker just to his port also.

Very expensive school fees for this captain... Let's hope he actually learns something.

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charts, we don't need no stinkin' charts!! 25 Sep 2007 21:49 #3

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Rick, you couldn't zoom in on the boat name, so we can ridicule him in public??!!

How embarrassing.

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charts, we don't need no stinkin' charts!! 25 Sep 2007 22:45 #4

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Mike, I didn't take the picture. A friend (Tanna III) took it a half hour before I got there. There was no boat name, burgees or flags anywhere. You can't see it very well in the picture but his anchor rode was out on the other side of the breakwater. I hope he didn't pull himself onto the mud flats when the tide came up :D .

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charts, we don't need no stinkin' charts!! 25 Sep 2007 22:47 #5

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Etienne, that's part of a range marker. They're all along the river to at least New Westminster.

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charts, we don't need no stinkin' charts!! 26 Sep 2007 00:41 #6

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The first thing you do if this ever happens to you.


Take down the BOC burgee. :kidding

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charts, we don't need no stinkin' charts!! 26 Sep 2007 01:02 #7

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Good time to clean the bottom and save the price of a hull out.

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charts, we don't need no stinkin' charts!! 26 Sep 2007 17:45 #8

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It's a 3258, and it was towed by Sea-Tow or Vessel Assist to Reed Point Marina in Port Moody (near Vancouver), where it's now on dry land (again). There's no boat name, but it does have a Washington registration number on the bow.

From a quick glance at the damage, both stern drives are toast, with one being holed, the base heavily damaged on the other, and of course both props are mangled. The hull has a 6 x 4 hole punched right through below the port engine, plus lots of nasty scrapes elsewhere. I'm told that at the time of the incident, not much water entered the boat, but subsequent removal from the rocks and towing in saw the water level rise to the top of the engine manifolds, but not high enough to cover the carburettors. No doubt, in the near future there will be a pi**ing contest between the insurance company and the salvors.

Truly, there is such a thing as a bad day's boating!

Update: Late today, I took another quick look at the 3258. The name on the stern is 'Lil Fling', and one of the marina folks mentioned that the incident occurred at night while the owner was trying to figure out the new GPS/Chartplotter......Unfortunate just the same.

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charts, we don't need no stinkin' charts!! 26 Sep 2007 18:41 #9

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Self-inflicted wound. Mitigates the sympathy factor.

Safe and Happy Boating!
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charts, we don't need no stinkin' charts!! 26 Sep 2007 19:44 #10

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Sandheads see many such incidents - all related to not paying attention or very inexperienced (?) boaters. I was almost a victim myself when I fetched my first boat from Anacortes. I asked an "experienced" boater (that's what I thought) to help and join me on the cruise. He even plotted a course beforehand. While passing Tsawassen my depth sounder kept reading between 6 - 10 feet and he kept tapping it saying something along the lines of 'stupid depth sounder is broken'.... Fortunately we saw the breakwater (must not have been high tide) and swung south/west to go around it (unlike this hapless fellow above).

Later when I checked the charts I knew how close we were to grounding. I have never relied on someone else's 'experience' again. Much can be learned from other, experienced boaters but should always be substantiated by personal observation.

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charts, we don't need no stinkin' charts!! 27 Sep 2007 22:16 #11

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I'm moored at Reed Point. Where is it located? I need some spare parts:arr

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charts, we don't need no stinkin' charts!! 28 Sep 2007 15:33 #12

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My wife and I went down to the marina last night and had a looked that Lil Fling.

Ouch!! That's a bad one. I wonder at what point the insurance company rights a boat off. There's about a 12" round hole punched through the bottom midship and many big gouges. Can that be fixed from the outside or does the interior flooring have to be taken up?

One skeg is busted off and a big hunk of alumnium is missing by the trim ram. Props are toast. Steedo and depth sounder senders are torn off. Railing is bent and a bunch of other howlers in the topsides.

I can't imagine what the engine room and the interior look like. That's a frickin' big hole.

Too bad. Looks like is was a pretty clean boat. I hope they had insurance!!

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