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what oil and filters 12 Sep 2007 15:24 #1

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What weight oil and what filters should I be using for the 175 Hinos and the Westerbeke?

I'm about to do the first change and I read in the manual to use 30 weight deisel for the Hinos but there is a whole bunch of quarts of 15/40 deisel oil in my engine room. Looks like that's was what the previous owner was using.The engines have around 1,900 hours on them.

Any thoughts on this and the genny would be much appreciated.

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what oil and filters 12 Sep 2007 16:01 #2

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I have 220 Hinos. Manual is very specific - don't use multi viscosity, use 30 weight and if colder than certain temps go to 20 wt and when it warms up later in the year sweitch back to 30 wt. Had cats in my old diesels of26 years and used Delo 400. Has been and I continue to use Delo 400 SAE 30 in tghe Hino's.

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what oil and filters 12 Sep 2007 16:30 #3

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Hi,

I'm not familiar with that the Delo brand of oil. Where do you buy it?

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what oil and filters 12 Sep 2007 17:08 #4

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In later years Hino actually came out and said it was OK to use multi viscosity oils in your Hinos. I just had Earl change my oil yesterday, he still recommends single weight oil per earlier discussions with him. I buy my Delo at Costo by the 4 gallon case because it is a whole lot cheaper and they ony sell 15-W40 so that is what I use in my Hino 310s.

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what oil and filters 12 Sep 2007 17:31 #5

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Delo is a Chevron Product. In Anchorage I get it at the bulk Chevron Dealer - Inlet Petroleum Corporation by either the 5 gallon bucket or a 6 individual gallon case. You can also get it at an Anchorage Costco in a 6 gallon case in the 10 - 40 multi viscosity.

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what oil and filters 13 Sep 2007 02:21 #6

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I have a 38 with 175 Hino's and a 8 BTD Westerbeke. I'm in the Great Lakes so I can only use the boat from May to October. Based on the 55-90F ambient temps I use 40 Weight in the Hinos and the Westerbeke manual recomends 10W-30. I has a friend that tests oil for a living (works at the GM Technical Center in Michigan) and he says that Texaco Ursa is the best so I use Texaco products for all boats, cars, etc. He also says Mobile 1 is a great product for cars, but I haven't made the move to synthetic oils for the boat or cars.

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what oil and filters 13 Sep 2007 15:46 #7

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Craig:

Since Texaco was sold to Chevron all of the Texaco stations in Anchorage have closed down or become Shell Stations. Accordingly, we can't purchase any more Texaco producuts in Anchorage. I used to use Texaco Extended Life Anti Freeze for my engibnes but switcherd to Chevron Extended Life Anti Freeze after Chevron advised me that it was the same product just being marketed under a different name since coming under the ownership of Chevron.

Can you still get Texaco products in Michigan or any states gals/guys???

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what oil and filters 13 Sep 2007 20:22 #8

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West Marine, Boater's World, Fisheries Supply in Seattle all carry Delo 300. Best price though is at NAPA. $12.75 a gallon last week. I have seen it as high as $17 at some of the boating stores.
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what oil and filters 13 Sep 2007 20:43 #9

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I've got the 175 Hinos and an Onan genset in my 38. Used Chevron products in both until the local distributor changed over to Texaco. I now use the Texaco equivalent of Delo 400 (can't remember what it's called). It has always been straight 30 wt in the Hinos and 15w-40w in the genset. The mains have 2300 hours on them and the genset has about 700 hours. A 5 gal bucket is about the right amount for an oil change in the Hinos.

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what oil and filters 15 Sep 2007 20:21 #10

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I use the Amsol synthethic, love it. Oil filters are Hino part #15607-1521. I order mine from a Hino dealership via telephone and pay the shipping.

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what oil and filters 17 Sep 2007 02:23 #11

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If you go to your nearest Hino dealer or there are companies which specialise in selling parts for japanese diesels they usually have the recommended oil. I bought 2 oil filters and 2 fuel filters and got change from $20.00. The oil I am using is a Jadmack 15w-40 specifically for Japanese engines and put out by Caltex.

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what oil and filters 17 Sep 2007 18:44 #12

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A lot of changes have occured to lube oils since the 80s. Back then the best oils for HD use were the straight viscosity oils. Alloils thin with increase in temperature, even a 0W-40 is thinner at 200 degress than when cold. In the late eighties Cat, Chevron and a fleet operator in California started a project to improve the life of diesel engines, when the results were in they had doubled engine life. In the early nineties new refining processes brought on line lube oils. The result is we now have multigrade oils that are better than the old HD straight weight oils.

My recommendation is to use what is currently recommended for diesel engines, which would be any of the fleet service oils such as; Chevron Delo, Shell Rotelo, Mobil Delvac,etc. Most HD diesels today recommend 15W-40 API CH-4 oil so I think that would be OK.
In the mid nineties I used Delo 400 15W-40 in my Hinos, also in my Cummins , Cat and gas engines (it is API rated gor gas engines).

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