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2850 command Bridge restore? 17 Sep 2017 21:38 #1

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Some one please convince me I am crazy and talk me off the deep end....
many weeks ago I found a 2850 command bridge with twin engines that is very mechanically sound with many updates but needs cosmetic work. Tried for over a month to get it out of my head. I cannot seem to make the thoughts go away. I have restored a 1985 cierra from the ground up many years ago and know the work involved! For some reason I feel the need to do it again with this 2850. If there were a bayliner to restore would there be any value at all to restoring this one! Bounty what are your thoughts?

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2850 command Bridge restore? 17 Sep 2017 23:09 #8

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You've restored a boat before so you know what to look for. If she sea trials well, everything works as it should and there are no issues with the transom core, stringers, fuel tank etc. then I say do it ;)
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wineandcoffee wrote: Some one please convince me I am crazy and talk me off the deep end....
many weeks ago I found a 2850 command bridge with twin engines that is very mechanically sound with many updates but needs cosmetic work. Tried for over a month to get it out of my head. I cannot seem to make the thoughts go away. I have restored a 1985 cierra from the ground up many years ago and know the work involved! For some reason I feel the need to do it again with this 2850. If there were a bayliner to restore would there be any value at all to restoring this one! Bounty what are your thoughts?


In terms of value as in "investment"........ no!
Boats are rarely investments.................. and are always expenses!
However, if you love the boat and the layout........... and would "use it up"...... go for it!

Please note that with twin 5.0s and with the Volvo Penta s/p stern drives, it will be under-powered!



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2850 command Bridge restore? 18 Sep 2017 15:04 #10

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Value no but a project that well keep you busy and you can be proud of it can be.
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2850 command Bridge restore? 19 Sep 2017 03:12 #11

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Thank you Bounty! You were amazing advice many years ago when I did the 2755 back in 2002 I think it was?

I never meant will I gain money by dong it. More of a is this old hull worth saving and like you said "use it up" i have always loved the old bayliner lines and now that I am a bit older I am blessed to play a bit if you will.
In regards to being "under powered" I kept looking at newer boats with a single screw big block and thought the twin screw small blocks would be better off. Is this not true? What would be the right upgrades? Duel props, or switch out the 5.0 to 5.7? Or what do you suggest? I run 400hp on my 302 ford in my 68' mustang. 400hp in my 89' iroc, 500hp in my amg, hell even my 4.6 3/4 ton ford cargo van has been bumped up a bit and the 17' expedition twin turbo 6 goes in next week for a retune. So I am no stranger to modifying. Just not sure with boats where you get bang for the buck?

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Thank you fritz, my theory is anyone can buy a boat not everyone can be proud they built a boat.

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I will have the boat surveyed as well as inspected before purchasing.

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Offer has been placed on the boat. Wait and see I guess.

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Buyer litterally just accepted offer. Survey to come....

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2850 command Bridge restore? 20 Sep 2017 04:19 #16

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2850 command Bridge restore? 20 Sep 2017 14:50 #17

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wineandcoffee wrote: Thank you Bounty! You were amazing advice many years ago when I did the 2755 back in 2002 I think it was?

I never meant will I gain money by dong it. More of a is this old hull worth saving and like you said "use it up" i have always loved the old bayliner lines and now that I am a bit older I am blessed to play a bit if you will.
In regards to being "under powered" I kept looking at newer boats with a single screw big block and thought the twin screw small blocks would be better off. Is this not true? What would be the right upgrades? Duel props, or switch out the 5.0 to 5.7? Or what do you suggest? I run 400hp on my 302 ford in my 68' mustang. 400hp in my 89' iroc, 500hp in my amg, hell even my 4.6 3/4 ton ford cargo van has been bumped up a bit and the 17' expedition twin turbo 6 goes in next week for a retune. So I am no stranger to modifying. Just not sure with boats where you get bang for the buck?


I love project boats, but have to tell you, this one is loaded with extras! Looks like a very good deal. Indeed, a good survey should tell you what you need to know.

I see the VP's are raw water cooled. Curious if you will be using it in fresh or salt water.

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2850 command Bridge restore? 20 Sep 2017 15:46 #18

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Visually it looks pretty clean for an older boat, lots of custom rail work etc. May want to replace the trailer if you plan to tow it around. When you do decide to repower I'd think a pair of closed cooled 5.7's with Duoprop drives would be the cats meow.
Hope your survey goes well ;)

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2850 command Bridge restore? 20 Sep 2017 21:35 #19

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The extras this one has is one of the reasons it keeps attracting me. This will be used in MN only so fresh water. Mostly the missippi thus why I was pretty dead set on twins for a little safety factor.

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2850 command Bridge restore? 20 Sep 2017 21:39 #20

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I agree the trailer could use some love. Would most likely go bunk if I bought a new trailer. I do have acces to a pair of 5.7's but diesels have always struck me as a fun project. The goal with this boat to be honest is to get my wife convinced that we need boating back in our life. That being said I would most likely keep the 305's and just update the cosmetics for now and then start looking for a 38 to 42 footer when I have my wife's blessings and just use this as my musky fishing boat.

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2850 command Bridge restore? 21 Sep 2017 06:12 #21

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Cabin entrance bulkhead looks to be in very good condition. A good sign as this is where a lot of the Contessa problems start. The engine bay wiring is a bit iffy looking though.
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2850 command Bridge restore? 21 Sep 2017 10:04 #22

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Def DO IT mate, i did a 2958, best damm project ever... Bayliners are a little unforgiving sometimes while renovating .. but just makes it so much more interesting
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2850 command Bridge restore? 21 Sep 2017 16:00 #23

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A the joy of renovating a boat, think of what a new Cutwater would set you back, just jump on it. I have been it to my project for a wile, started with fuel tank renovation and then decided on dropping in a Diesel.
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yup keep the 305s, don't put too much into her...
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Survey and mechanical inspection to come on Wednesday the 27th of September

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