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Homemade Trailer tongue stand advice 14 Sep 2017 02:22 #1

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Made this with a 4x4 and some scraps but it still feels shaky. I don't think it'll wobble off, but I wanted to take the weight off my wheel. Any ideas? What do you guys do?

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Homemade Trailer tongue stand advice 14 Sep 2017 02:44 #2

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Concrete blocks, thats what I use when I wont to block the tongue!
Otherwise I leave it on the tongue jack!
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Homemade Trailer tongue stand advice 14 Sep 2017 02:45 #3

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Prior owner of our lake boat had a stand made up that I now own. It has a 12" square steel plate at the bottom with a 2.5" diameter steel pipe welded to the base. At the top of the pipe he welded a U that the trailer tongue slots into. The U has a steel pin that then fits in over the top of the trailer so you can lock it into place. The stand raises the bow up high enough so that any water drains out of the bilge while stored. Its very stable and secure.

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Homemade Trailer tongue stand advice 14 Sep 2017 06:11 #4

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I use wheel chocks on the trailer. I also have a heavy rubber donut type thing that I sometimes place under the jack wheel for more stability on sloping ground. I'm not concerned about keeping the jack wheel off the ground.

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Homemade Trailer tongue stand advice 14 Sep 2017 07:41 #5

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What you've constructed will work if the ground is level and stable (and the 4x4 is vertical). But if it starts to lean in any direction, the 4x4 will act like a crowbar and pry apart the 4 wood blocks you've nailed or screwed together. An earthquake or something pushing your trailer tongue sideways could cause it to collapse.

You've got the right idea - broadening the base to increase stability. But you want to reduce the leverage by having the support pieces push against the 4x4 higher up. That's why concrete blocks would work better (they're taller).

Also, if it should start to tip over, the way you've arranged the scrap pieces converts the load into shear forces - the blocks will want to slide and twist against each other, snapping the screws or nails you have holding them together. Structures are usually weakest in shear, especially with all the leverage you've given the trailer tongue, so it's not an ideal bracing structure.

Compression is generally strongest. Say, laying the scrap pieces flat on each side of the 4x4 to form a cross. Screw them into place there. That alone would still result in a shear force, and against the narrow side of the blocks so it would be even weaker than what you've constructed. So you cut some 2x4s and angle the edges. Screw them in place as a brace between the 4x4 and each scrap piece (forming a triangle). Basically making it look like a king post truss, in both the North-South and East-West directions, with the center beam extending up past the top of the triangle.

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If the 4x4 starts to fall over, the weight of the trailer will be converted into a compressive force in the diagonal brace on that side. So the only way the 4x4 can tip over further is if it crushes the brace or rips all the screws out.
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Homemade Trailer tongue stand advice 14 Sep 2017 09:29 #6

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Or just let it sit on the wheel. I've been doing it that way for over 40 years, current boat for 8 years.

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Homemade Trailer tongue stand advice 14 Sep 2017 09:55 #7

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2-4 or more 2x8 stacked under the wheel, with the trailer tires chocked.

Say you can't have the drive or outboard fully down , then stack some 2x8 wood under the tires.

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Homemade Trailer tongue stand advice 14 Sep 2017 12:31 #8

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The one I've been using forever is a foot-long times two pieces of 6 x 6 pressure treated post topped with a piece of 2 x 6 . They give me the weather endurance for the ground contact and gets the bow high enough that I can roll it way up in the air. I took the router and made a big slot across where the wheel sets down into the 2 x 6 so it won't go anywhere if I go dancing into the back of the boat. I used to have just dished out place but I made the long slap so I can roll it back-and-forth easily when I'm trying to line up on the trailer ball.
When I use this I just returned it with my foot snake it out of there and kick it back in the position and I come back later on. I like that better than Cinder blocks because if you drive over to bump it with anything it's not gonna do so much damage.

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Homemade Trailer tongue stand advice 14 Sep 2017 15:20 #9

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Thanks for the insights! If you guys get a chance I'd love to see pics of your setups too!

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Homemade Trailer tongue stand advice 14 Sep 2017 15:33 #10

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Jeffw wrote: Or just let it sit on the wheel. I've been doing it that way for over 40 years, current boat for 8 years.


Agree, that's what it's there for. Additional blocking or a stand is really only needed if you need to raise the bow do to an uneven grade etc.

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Homemade Trailer tongue stand advice 14 Sep 2017 15:53 #11

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I let my Boston Whaler trailer sit on the jack wheel - no issues. I took a short length of pressure treated 2x8 and cut a large hole in it with a hole saw. I use it to chock the jack wheel. It works the same as one of these:

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Homemade Trailer tongue stand advice 14 Sep 2017 20:33 #12

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this is a funny thread. why would you feel the need to take the weight off of a tongue jack? That is what they are designed for.

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Homemade Trailer tongue stand advice 15 Sep 2017 13:09 #13

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6104696 wrote: this is a funny thread. why would you feel the need to take the weight off of a tongue jack? That is what they are designed for.


Sure, but I didn't think it would be good for long term storage over the winter. I always raise mine all the way up so the bilge drains out too. Just figured its cheaper to use a scrap piece of pressure treated 4x4 in case I end up messing up the tongue jack and having to spend $50+ for a new one, that's all.

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Homemade Trailer tongue stand advice 15 Sep 2017 14:58 #14

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6104696 wrote: this is a funny thread. why would you feel the need to take the weight off of a tongue jack? That is what they are designed for.


Ditto!


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Homemade Trailer tongue stand advice 16 Sep 2017 04:03 #15

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6104696 wrote: this is a funny thread. why would you feel the need to take the weight off of a tongue jack? That is what they are designed for.


X3!

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Homemade Trailer tongue stand advice 16 Sep 2017 10:07 #16

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Doubled50, here's the bottom line: We all do things a little differently, do what's right for you.:)

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Homemade Trailer tongue stand advice 16 Sep 2017 13:35 #17

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Jeffw wrote: Or just let it sit on the wheel. I've been doing it that way for over 40 years, current boat for 8 years.


What he said.
That is what that wheel is for. There is no air there. It doesn't roll on the road. Don't fix what isn't broke.
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