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Safety lanyard extension, was:Fishing safety 27 Jun 2014 16:22 #1

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Hi, my name is Toby Keys, and I have made a video describing how to cheaply and effectively extend an outboard motor's kill switch so that a person can move unimpeded around the boat.
I feel that by using this method, the very real danger of falling overboard when the boat is moving can be mitigated and very possibly save lives.
As I said, it is cheap and easy and I stand to make no profit from it. I only do this in the hope that some fishermen will see it and follow its advice.
Here is the link to YouTube

If you are uncomfortable with clicking on a link from a stranger, I suggest you could go to the YouTube site, and in the search bar, type in “retractable kill switch tether”
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Safety lanyard extension, was:Fishing safety 27 Jun 2014 16:50 #2

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I see you are spreading the good news of your video across multiple fishing sites. I'm all for safety, but not a fan of spam- and this is pretty close to it in IMO.....

I'll let the mod brain trust chew on this.

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Safety lanyard extension, was:Fishing safety 27 Jun 2014 17:13 #3

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Toby, I think that's a great idea and a very cheap implementation!

The big leash on the belt may be a draw back for some. You could attach the kill switch lanyard to the leash case and hang that up to something with velcro. Then you only have the small carabiner clip from the leash to attach to your body/PFD.

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Safety lanyard extension, was:Fishing safety 27 Jun 2014 18:32 #4

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Hi kjs,
Yes, that is another way of setting it up. My only concern with that is that if you go over the side, I don't think that the reel is strong enough to retract to your belt which would leave the 10 foot line dangling around you legs. This could become tangled around your legs when swimming back to the boat.
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Safety lanyard extension, was:Fishing safety 27 Jun 2014 18:37 #5

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Hello Pau Hana,
I'm just trying to get the idea out there. There is no profit in it for me.
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Safety lanyard extension, was:Fishing safety 27 Jun 2014 18:43 #6

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True but worth a try. As the waters I boat in are warm I can make some test jumps..... From testing with our dogs leashes which are a bit to large they are well capable to pull the case even over the rough carpet. Have to get a tiny model to do some testing......

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Safety lanyard extension, was:Fishing safety 27 Jun 2014 19:06 #7

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Okay, let me know how it works.
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Safety lanyard extension, was:Fishing safety 27 Jun 2014 19:51 #8

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It's not spam, nothing is being sold. But it's ridiculously long for what it shows.

Summary: Clip a retractable dog leash on your belt, attach it to the kill switch. Run it via an itermediary attachment somewhere that gives you free run of the whole cockpit.

This picture shows all you need to know:

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Safety lanyard extension, was:Fishing safety 27 Jun 2014 20:02 #9

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Sheeesh! Everybody's a critic. But you are quite right.
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Safety lanyard extension, was:Fishing safety 27 Jun 2014 20:19 #10

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Carlos, while I agree that for those who are aware of the problem the picture tells you everything you have to know there are unfortunately many out there which have to be made aware of the problem first. That's what the fast forward button on the video player is good for if you just want to get to the core..... heck, just look how many actually use the safety lanyard when they fool around.

If we discourage people to post their ideas by criticizing their presentation we don't help others who may have to be clued in as they may never post again. Yes, it was a bit long for me too but it solves a problem I always had with my safety lanyard and I never came up with the right idea. There may even be a better solution than Toby's but his is multiple times better than what I came up with.
Sometimes even posting a "not so good" idea helps as the collective wisdom may improve it to be good (open source model). Toby may actually trigger someones brain to come up with an even better mouse trap (not that I could think of one yet).
Sure, ideas like the trailer tongue extension I posted recently have to be ground into dust for technical reasons but not for the way it's presented.

Just my 2 cents worth......

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Safety lanyard extension, was:Fishing safety 27 Jun 2014 22:03 #11

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Toby's idea in an almost real life test.....

I love to try out things on the spot...... Stole the retractable leash my daughter has for her ferret as it is really small.

First of all it naturally works like a champ. I tested it the way Toby explains it and wound the lanyard around my leg. “The thing” hanging at my PFD wasn't able to untangle itself and only tightened the rope around my leg! Hey, first time I wore a PFD in my pool but I didn't want to attach it to my pants and lose them while testing.

Then I tried it the opposite way as I had mentioned above to get the “plastic blob” away from my leg. The leash case at the safety lanyard (or for this test in the hand of my daughter, LOL). When she let go the “box” retracted fast to my leg and then twisted itself around until it was hanging at my PFD.
In short, a brilliant idea which solves an issue I always had with these safety lanyards. Yes, they are crucial but shouldn't be uncomfortable and I hated to dock somewhere, shut off the engine, unhook the lanyard, get something from the back or front of the boat and go back to the helm just to hook up the lanyard again. 10 feet of freedom gained!

I can understand that Toby never tested it this way in the cold waters he boats in but my pool fortunately finally went well above 90F and is VERY nice.....

The leash box (have to get one in another color than pink!) will be attached with Velcro just where the back-to-back backrests are and just below the windshield frame with a short piece of lanyard to the kill switch. Problem solved and thanks Toby!

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Safety lanyard extension, was:Fishing safety 27 Jun 2014 23:14 #12

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What we need is one strong enough to pull you back in the boat.

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Safety lanyard extension, was:Fishing safety 28 Jun 2014 00:31 #13

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Yeah, I should have said it's a neat idea, sorry. I wasn't criticizing really, just plain stating that you don't need five minutes of video to see what to do.

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Safety lanyard extension, was:Fishing safety 28 Jun 2014 02:05 #14

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Not bad for some applications but I can't see doing stuff easily with a dog leash on me.

With all the $ we spend on boats, electronics, recreational gear, gas, insurance. ......
What's another $300 on a auto tether.

Also slightly less effective , but not restrictive would be a engine shut off timer from a kenworth or pete for around $75. Like a egg timer.
Leave the helm set it for 1,2,3, however many minutes your comfortable with. If you don't return the switch to "run" when returning to the helm it'll time out and kill the ignition.

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Safety lanyard extension, was:Fishing safety 28 Jun 2014 07:44 #15

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Not spam at all IMO. I think it's a great idea, thanks for sharing!

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Safety lanyard extension, was:Fishing safety 28 Jun 2014 23:29 #16

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kjs wrote: Toby's idea in an almost real life test.....

I love to try out things on the spot...... Stole the retractable leash my daughter has for her ferret as it is really small.


Is a small ferret going to weigh enough to pull the kill switch, or will it just get drug behind the boat?

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Safety lanyard extension, was:Fishing safety 28 Jun 2014 23:51 #17

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green650 wrote: Is a small ferret going to weigh enough to pull the kill switch, or will it just get drug behind the boat?


That's a good one! :woohoo:

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Safety lanyard extension, was:Fishing safety 30 Jun 2014 00:58 #18

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Anything that has the opportunity to make boating safer is a good thing.

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Love the idea! Thanks!

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I remember reading about an electronic tether some years ago, it was either manual or water activated.

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Safety lanyard extension, was:Fishing safety 10 Jul 2014 17:46 #22

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more "freedom" but more batteries to remember to exchange....... I like the simple original idea especially on a smaller boat.

The autotether system hopefully operates the correct way and not like one I had in my hands around 3 years ago. They relied on sending a "bad" signal when the fob was in water. Looks fine on the first glance but if the fob is under water by only a few inches the weak 433MHz signal won't reach the receiver on the boat any more. A running boat is quickly out of the range even if you lift the fob out of the water. They have to constantly transmit a "good" signal and when it is interrupted or changes to "bad" the engine has to be cut off. That costs a LOT of battery. But that's how a real safety system has to be designed otherwise it is a false sense of security.

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Safety lanyard extension, was:Fishing safety 10 Jul 2014 19:13 #23

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I think it's a great idea. Appreciate you sharing with all of us.

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