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Using my 4.0 liter Jeep 07 Feb 2010 00:35 #1

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What's your thought on me using my 4 wheel drive jeep Grand Cherokee to pull my 2550 to the local boat ramps? My ford 350 pulls it fine down the highway but without the 4 wheel drive it has problems getting her back up the ramp if the ramp is alittle slick. My jeep has the same class hitch as my Ford truck does. I'm just not sure if it has enough weight to be able to handle the boat being behind it. Any input on this one?

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Well is your F-350 dually if so you have more truck on the road as well as more weight I dont know about pulling with a jeep,Let me rephrase that I dont know about STOPPING with a jeep or handleing while underway.

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Daryl,

I used my Cherokee 4.0 L straight 6 to tow my Trophy 2002 (21ft) for a few years. The boat is heavier than the jeep, and gets a little unstable when stopping and at speeds over 40 mph. Be carefull and keep the speed down.

The last 2 seasons I have rented a Uhaul pickup for the day, the GMC trucks are great, the Ford f150 where fair.

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Forgive me for being blunt, but I think it's a really bad idea.

What is your tow capacity?

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Days away;415773 wrote: Well is your F-350 dually if so you have more truck on the road as well as more weight I dont know about pulling with a jeep,Let me rephrase that I dont know about STOPPING with a jeep or handleing while underway.


The 350 is not a dually

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Download_Complete;415789 wrote: Forgive me for being blunt, but I think it's a really bad idea.

What is your tow capacity?


Maximum Towing Capacity: 5000 lbs.


I don't think that's going to be enough.....:prod

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JohnNJ;415779 wrote: Daryl,

I used my Cherokee 4.0 L straight 6 to tow my Trophy 2002 (21ft) for a few years. The boat is heavier than the jeep, and gets a little unstable when stopping and at speeds over 40 mph. Be carefull and keep the speed down.

The last 2 seasons I have rented a Uhaul pickup for the day, the GMC trucks are great, the Ford f150 where fair.

John


Highest speed would be 35-40.. But it's pushing the weight towing limit..I'll just try to find a slip to rent..

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I will echo D C's sentiment, 'BAD idea'.
The list of reasons is endless.
Your idea of slip rental is far better.

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I have a 4L Jeep Cherokee that we leave at our beach house that I use to launch my 1802 Trophy, and I really think it would be completely overwelmed with a boat that size. I go about a half a mile to the ramp and my boat pushes it around pretty good. You better hope the trailer brakes work because the Jeeps are barely enough to stop my little boat.

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Using my 4.0 liter Jeep 07 Feb 2010 09:21 #13

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I haven't been here that long and I know this one has been discussed a few times.:ouch
So here we go, 4829lbs is the boat dry weight so conservatively add another 1000lbs for fuel, water, etc. plus all the stuff you've put onboard. Now add the weight of the trailer, somewhere in the neighborhood 0f 1800lbs.

So where are we, about 7629lbs. Tow capacity for the Jeep is 5000lbs, so you have an extra 2600lbs to push you through the intersection you had hoped to stop at. I say go for it.:rolleyes:

Or shift the F350 into 4 wheel drive when you need it. What are you saving it for?;)

I pull a similar boat (1979 Saratoga flybridge) with an F250 4X4 with a 6.0 diesel and don't have any problems. Aside from replacing worn tires, have you measured/weighed the tongue weight? If the boat is set too far back on the trailer it would cause the rear of the truck to become too light causing traction problems. On a boat this heavy I'd say if you can pick up the tongue of the trailer without difficulty (with the boat on it) then you may need to move the boat forward. A quick search of the Web will tell you how much weight should be on the tongue. You can use a bathroom scale.

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Fish-a-Palooza;415911 wrote: I haven't been here that long and I know this one has been discussed a few times.:ouch
So here we go, 4829lbs is the boat dry weight so conservatively add another 1000lbs for fuel, water, etc. plus all the stuff you've put onboard. Now add the weight of the trailer, somewhere in the neighborhood 0f 1800lbs.

So where are we, about 7629lbs. Tow capacity for the Jeep is 5000lbs, so you have an extra 2600lbs to push you through the intersection you had hoped to stop at. I say go for it.:rolleyes:

Or shift the F350 into 4 wheel drive when you need it. What are you saving it for?;)

I pull a similar boat (1979 Saratoga flybridge) with an F250 4X4 with a 6.0 diesel and don't have any problems. Aside from replacing worn tires, have you measured/weighed the tongue weight? If the boat is set too far back on the trailer it would cause the rear of the truck to become too light causing traction problems. On a boat this heavy I'd say if you can pick up the tongue of the trailer without difficulty (with the boat on it) then you may need to move the boat forward. A quick search of the Web will tell you how much weight should be on the tongue. You can use a bathroom scale.


This info is going to be darn close.
Trailer brakes are not made like car brakes. Surge brakes often have rub spots on the lines, lines not fastened properly and vibration causes them to break.
If so, you only have your tow vehicle to stop the load. The Jeep won't do that very well.
Electric brakes can also. I just found that out this winter towing a tractor from Florida to Michigan. Heavy load and I had no brakes most of the trip.
Diesel Ford stopped it very well. Something smaller would not have done so good.
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I used to have an 87 2150. I towed it home from the lake about 50 miles with my 98 Cherokee with a 4.0. It was one of the longest trips of my life,,,,,,,,,:(

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DarylP;415767 wrote: What's your thought on me using my 4 wheel drive jeep Grand Cherokee to pull my 2550 to the local boat ramps? My ford 350 pulls it fine down the highway but without the 4 wheel drive it has problems getting her back up the ramp if the ramp is a little slick. My jeep has the same class hitch as my Ford truck does. I'm just not sure if it has enough weight to be able to handle the boat being behind it. Any input on this one?


Up and down the ramp you will be OK providing the ramp is not too steep. I have owned a couple of Jeep Grands. Now over the road, you are really taking a risk there.

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Short answer is do not do it.

Even with trailer brakes, it will be difficult to make a safe stop.

Weight. If you had to make a 'quick' move you could/would loose control faster than with a heaver/longer truck.

Your Jeeps drive train will suffer.

With the weight on the hitch (tounge weight) how effective will your 4 wheel drive be?

Now, have people done it; yes. There was a photo of a Jeep G-Cherokee and behind it was a 2655 on a double axle trailer.

You have a F350. What are the chances of selling that truck and getting a full size 4x4? Personally, that is what I would do.

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Living here in FL , I've seen boats of your size being towed by Jeeps like yours
going down the interstates. I personally would not do it. I've pulled my 1802 capri to Tn over the years with my 99 Grand and now with a 2005 with no problems. In your case I'd stick with the F350, maybe a change of rear tires is in order, along with a tow strap. Over the years I've seen other boaters give a hand to someone in need at the boat ramps with a little tug to get up the ramp.

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if you are slipping on the ramp, what about moving the boat forward a few inches to get more tongue weight? on a 350 shouldn't be an issue I would think?


the jeep is way too short wheelbase.

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Or shift the F350 into 4 wheel drive when you need it. What are you saving it for?;)


My 350 is only 2 wheel drive. So that's the problem. Trying to get traction on some of the ramps here. Seems to be alot better with some added weight to the truck bed. Should go weigh the boat and tongue weight and make sure it's right. Heck should just get a camper and put it on the truck than it should pull the boat up the ramp with no problem.. Or source a front axle, drive shaft, transfer case....

I tried the bath room scale thing. Well it did not work to good after I put the jack on the scale.. Wife not to happy about me breaking the scale.. So tongue weight is somewhere over 300 pounds...LOL

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So would it be ok to use the Jeep to pull my 350 up the ramp???:kidding

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msd58;415922 wrote: Up and down the ramp you will be OK providing the ramp is not too steep. I have owned a couple of Jeep Grands. Now over the road, you are really taking a risk there.


True ramps about 6 miles from the house. Still alittle to much weight after I put a full load of fuel and other things on the boat...

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Last time out we pulled it out to one of the parks above Ice Harbor Dam on the Snake. Could not get enough traction to get it up the ramp. So 4 guys walked over and jumped into the Truck bed and that was enough added weight to get it moving with no problem. So maybe the boats alittle aft on the trailer.

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