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Can you advise me on a fair price to pay for a Bayliner? 05 Feb 2010 02:40 #1

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I'm looking at a 1993 open bow Classic 19' with a 3.0 Merc
400 hours, garaged, galvanized trailer, SS prop, still looks brand new.

Seler is asking $7,500 with all accessories: skis, bimini top, life jackets, spare prop, etc.

NADA value looks like this boat is way over priced, but everything i've found online at or below this price is nowhere near as nice as this boat.

Any feedback about that model of boat or the price would be greatly appreciated.

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Can you advise me on a fair price to pay for a Bayliner? 05 Feb 2010 03:04 #2

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Honestly - keep looking in my opinion.....may take longer but I would opt for something a little bigger than the 3.0. I saw a 20' with a 5.7 that looked to be in great shape for $ 8,500 and it was a 1996 - identical to what i had....dont worry about water toys that come with it....bimini is nice if in good shape, but dont let the top be the deciding factor either.

It's more than I would pay for that set up.

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Can you advise me on a fair price to pay for a Bayliner? 05 Feb 2010 03:04 #3

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You don't indicate where you are or where you are looking, it makes a difference.
Values, prices on everything; cars, boats, bikes is down right now, nothing much is selling. If you believe the price is too high, make an offer, even what you would consider an insultingly low offer to get an idea of how badly the seller wants to sell. If he/she holds fast to the asking price then you need to make a decision as to whether you want to pay his/her price or threaten to walk. You have to make the threat believable.
It has been discussed here in the past that the only real value anything has is the final price agreed to between the seller and the buyer. The more motivated the seller, the better the price will be, generally.
Good luck and send some pics along with the results of your offer.

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Can you advise me on a fair price to pay for a Bayliner? 05 Feb 2010 03:08 #4

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Thanks for the feedback.

I'm in Kansas, will be used on lakes in the midwest. I previously owned a Glassmaster with a very similar setup and it served us very well.

I now have 2 young kids and want them to grow up on the lake as I did.

I know the seller and the price seemed premium, but seeing how he maintains everything he owns and the honestly "like new" condition of the boat, I've been considering it.

I appreciate the feedback very much

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Can you advise me on a fair price to pay for a Bayliner? 05 Feb 2010 03:18 #5

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way too much money for a marginally powered 17 year old boat. I don't care what the condition. You could probably find a 2 or 3 year old 175 for that money, with the same motor.

keep looking.

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Can you advise me on a fair price to pay for a Bayliner? 05 Feb 2010 03:48 #6

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The boat needs the V-6.

No price adjustment fixes that.

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Can you advise me on a fair price to pay for a Bayliner? 05 Feb 2010 09:33 #7

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It really depends on what you want to do with the boat. For any skiing, I would suggest that the minimum you will need is the V6. We ski heaps with ours and I certainly wouldn't want any less than the V6.
A few people I have spoken to that have skied behind a 175 with the 4 cylinder said it made single ski, deepwater starts really hard going.
Hope this helps.

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Can you advise me on a fair price to pay for a Bayliner? 05 Feb 2010 12:07 #8

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Rock Chalk;414864 wrote: I'm looking at a 1993 open bow Classic 19' with a 3.0 Merc


Underpowered............................

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Can you advise me on a fair price to pay for a Bayliner? 05 Feb 2010 12:25 #9

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For a growing family of 4, the 3.0L will have a rough time of it. Not to mention the 'hick-up' you can get a hard turns.

If it was me, I would continue to look.

Also, have you looked into Reop's? There are some very good deals there as well.

Here is a mid-west repo dealer:

www.harrisonmarine.com

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Can you advise me on a fair price to pay for a Bayliner? 05 Feb 2010 13:07 #10

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I will pile on and echo the comments of others that a 3.0 is probably underpowered. Used to have an 18' (other brand) with 3.0 and it was very difficult to get teenage boys up on one ski. (If wakeboarding is the sport of choice, that's another matter.) Now have a 195 with 5.0 and it works much better. I'd hate to have a 3.0 on the 19 foot boat.

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Can you advise me on a fair price to pay for a Bayliner? 05 Feb 2010 14:35 #11

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What is a fair market price for this boat - considering condition.

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Can you advise me on a fair price to pay for a Bayliner? 05 Feb 2010 14:40 #12

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What is a fair private seller price for this boat, considering great condition?

I don't anticipate much skiing, mostly cruising around and the wife and girls working on their tans...

Here is the link for the boat.

http://kansascity.craigslist.org/boa/1553251063.html

Thanks again for all of the feedback, this is a great forum.

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Can you advise me on a fair price to pay for a Bayliner? 05 Feb 2010 15:08 #13

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kwb;414906 wrote: The boat needs the V-6.

No price adjustment fixes that.

I disagree. I had a similar set up on a 18 ft. plus Thompson. While it wasn't a real fast boat, it was fast enough and could pull a slalom skier. It was also VERY economical!

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Can you advise me on a fair price to pay for a Bayliner? 05 Feb 2010 15:21 #14

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CapriSS2050;414881 wrote: Honestly - keep looking in my opinion.....may take longer but I would opt for something a little bigger than the 3.0. I saw a 20' with a 5.7 that looked to be in great shape for $ 8,500 and it was a 1996 - identical to what i had....dont worry about water toys that come with it....bimini is nice if in good shape, but dont let the top be the deciding factor either.

It's more than I would pay for that set up.


there ya go rock chalk. excellent advice. don't rush into it. ask me why i say that.

are you a rock climber?

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Can you advise me on a fair price to pay for a Bayliner? 05 Feb 2010 15:46 #15

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Rock Chalk;414997 wrote: What is a fair private seller price for this boat, considering great condition?

I don't anticipate much skiing, mostly cruising around and the wife and girls working on their tans...

Here is the link for the boat.

http://kansascity.craigslist.org/boa/1553251063.html

Thanks again for all of the feedback, this is a great forum.

Rock,
I would offer $3000, maybe $3200 but considering his last statement in the ad. about preferring to not negotiate, it sounds like a passer.
I had a '78 19' BL Admiralty BR. It had the 140, 4 cyl. Volvo. Not the fastest, but went very well.
It was well equipped on a good trailer and in good condition. Bought for $2900 three years ago in Seattle.
Take it all for what it is worth.
That IS a nice boat, worth somewhat less than 1/2 of what he is asking and I am sure he will figure that out as the spring and summer move on and he still has it sitting. Unless of course he is smart and takes your low-ball offer.

James

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Can you advise me on a fair price to pay for a Bayliner? 05 Feb 2010 15:54 #16

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Not many rocks to climb in Kansas.... I'm a big University of Kansas fan.

Rock Chalk Jayhawk, Go KU!

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Can you advise me on a fair price to pay for a Bayliner? 05 Feb 2010 15:54 #17

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I live in the area (Lenexa) and have been pricing boats locally and around the lake of the ozarks for years before finally pulling the trigger on a new bayliner this past summer (actually my wife bought it as a surprise!!).

My observations on the price:
1) Kansas City area used boat prices run higher than published blue book(s). There are just not enough boats, lakes, marina's in this area to force prices down to the national average.

2) There are a lot of boats in the area that are stored "out back" with a loose tarp all winter (if covered at all). Most of these boats wouldn't even FIT in the sellers garage. Part of the reason this happens is that enclosed storage units capable of holding a 19-20ft boat in the Johnson county area are ridiculously expensive. This is why I store mine in a family pole barn.

3) Even though the local prices are higher than other parts of the country and you know the seller so don't have to worry about how the boat was stored and maintained....He's still asking too much for that boat. I also noticed that the add says that the trailer is "available" which usually means "extra". I can't imagine that that particular boat sold for a lot more than his asking price 17 years ago. Even though you are happy with the 3.0, it has less "value" than the same boat with a 4.3L.

4) I'm not opposed to spending more on something that you feel comfortable with from a maintenance and condition standpoint (that's why I'm in an 09), but I think you should check some of the local dealers for their current stock of used boats. This would at least give you a better idea of the true local value. Your friend may want to sell his boat, but the dealers NEED to sell their boats.

I'd recommend Lakeside Marine (Topeka), Sportsman's Outfitter (Lee's Summit), and Southwest Marine (Merriam/Shawnee). I've had very good experiences with all three and ended up buying from Lakeside. Good Folks.

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Hope this helps.

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Can you advise me on a fair price to pay for a Bayliner? 05 Feb 2010 16:03 #18

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Toooo much money....

With todays market, make an offer of $3k and see what happens......
Lots of cursing probably... but that price is way over book!!

Don't be afraid of the 3.0L, if just cruising/tanning and perhaps a skier/tuber, once in awhile, you'll be fine.

Fully loaded will be a issue.

I paid $1400 for a 1750 with a 2.3L OMC and it does all we want it to.

It burns VERY little gas; the big engines pass me except at the fuel dock.

I fill up once a week (12gals.+/-) and run out to the beach at Shakleford Banks, from Beaufort, NC all week long.

Can't beat the operating costs of the 3.0 or the 2.3 with a stick.

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Can you advise me on a fair price to pay for a Bayliner? 05 Feb 2010 16:37 #19

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$7500 is too high, maybe the sellers trying to recoup to offset the cost of that new outdrive. I would offer 3000-3200 otherwise keep looking around.

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Can you advise me on a fair price to pay for a Bayliner? 05 Feb 2010 16:51 #20

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His ad says "trailer available". that usually means for more money.

$9000 plus for that ? No way.

I only paid $10k for this.
http://www.baylinerownersclub.org/forum/showthread.php?t=42521
Guarantee it's in as good or better condition then any older boat on the market.

Look at the first one in this search.
http://www.boattrader.com/search-results/NewOrUsed-any/Type-Power/Category-Bowrider/Region-MW%7CMid%20West/Make-bayliner/Length-18,22/Year-1990,2011/Price-1000,10000/Sort-Length:DESC/

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Can you advise me on a fair price to pay for a Bayliner? 05 Feb 2010 17:22 #21

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Like everyone else has said too much. I would look for the 4.3L the fuel consumption is more but, worth having for when you have more people in the boat. Plus you will get the money back when go to sell, and it will sell faster. Nothing worse than an under powered boat IMHO. Good luck out there it's a great time to be buyer.

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Can you advise me on a fair price to pay for a Bayliner? 05 Feb 2010 17:46 #22

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I will echo that the price is too much, but disagree to a certain extent on the engine selection.
I own a old Capri with the 4-cylinder volvo, the previous owner had a holeshot prop on it and ski'd with it. We now use it for fishing or just cruising and am pleased with the economy of the engine. Nothing like going out for a day and when your buddies ask what you need for gas, their eye's light up when you tell them because one brought the bait and one brought the snacks we're all good.
I feel that with our current energy issues as a nation it's my responsibility to use less, even if I could afford to stuff 20 gallons an hour down a monster motor, I wouldn't.
Many don't share my opinion there.
If you're going to Ski multiple people you may want a V6 or 5.0L V-8, otherwise there is no reason for it. The 3.0 has it's share of problems, do some research on here and check it out thoroughly before you buy.

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Can you advise me on a fair price to pay for a Bayliner? 05 Feb 2010 19:04 #23

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Rock,

Just for comparison here's one at LOTO that's only 2 years older. http://stlouis.craigslist.org/boa/1571298855.html

If you don't mind driving a day to pick on up, here's one that has a v6, trailer, and is a few years newer for the same price. http://www.iboats.com/used_boats/boats--10/power_boats--100/bow_riders--1004/556263.html

Good luck with your decision.


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Can you advise me on a fair price to pay for a Bayliner? 05 Feb 2010 19:20 #24

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IMO- to much $$ and not enough Ponies,:ouch
It's a buyers market keep looking around awhile
You will find better newer stronger faster,:D

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